Guest maestro Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Is this the same as Paul Wagner on CJ? Anybody know anything about this record? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) It seems to be the same track ... the mastermind behind the CJ 45 was Stan Vincent (the guy also behind the Crow 45 on Inner Ear) ... Stan worked out of New York and was a staff member at Buddah Records around 1968/69/70 (an in-house producer/arranger and songwriter). Joe Fields Cobblestone Records was distributed by Buddah at that time and was on the look-out for 45's to license ... guess that's where the link originated. There's guys on here who have met / talked with Stan, so maybe one of them knows more about this. Edited July 15, 2018 by Roburt Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest maestro Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Thanks. That makes sense. Stan Vincent is credited as song writer on both sides. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I've never seen the Cobblestone 45 but believe it to be demo only. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest maestro Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) I haven't heard the CJ version, but I'm guessing it's the same even though the title is slightly different. Edited July 16, 2018 by maestro sucessfully uploaded pictures Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) I'd put up scans of the CJ 45 ... but it seems I'm currently unable to post jpegs on here ... . . . . . . . it's working now ... Edited July 16, 2018 by Roburt Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest maestro Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I'm curious if they were on different labels because they were meant for different regional distribution? I'm in southern California, so I wonder if the cobblestone demo copies were just the few that were sent out to promote the single? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) The Cobblestone 45 would have escaped some time around August 68 ... at that time, Stan Vincent was mainly working on tracks for Bang, Kama Sutra & Buddah Records .... BUT his work for those labels was all tagged as either for Progressive Media Inc (PMI) or for Music Dynamic Corp. not for G.S.G., the production company this release is badged up with ... JUST MAYBE, the CJ 45 came out earlier and the Cobblestone release followed on afterwards. The music piublishing on the CJ 45 is also different to the Cobblestone release (on which it's assigned to Kama Sutra Music), again this leads me to think that the CJ release is from a bit earlier. "She Must Have Heard" is still registered with BMI, via Kama Sutra Music. Edited July 16, 2018 by Roburt Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 The CJ release is mastered and pressed by RCA and the mastering code indicates the second half of 1967. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 12 hours ago, garethx said: The CJ release is mastered and pressed by RCA and the mastering code indicates the second half of 1967. I guess that when Stan Vincent signed to work with Buddah / Kama Sutra, they gave him the 'gift' of putting his earlier 45 out on Cobblestone (though only as a promo copy to go out to radio stns). Wonder if any radio stns programmed the Cobblestone 45 for actual airplay ?? The Cobblestone 45 must be RARE although it is the 2nd issue. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davebanks Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Has this track been issued on a CD ever? Dave Banks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Either way, what an incredible production. Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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