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Two months to recover a sore knee and1hour to go back 2 months . All injury on the inside lower knee just over use on hard ground.  I hope Any body with similar experience.  Thanks  Since had physio and tear to ligament. Thought it could be worse.

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I'd go with what Doctor Steve said above.  I wear neoprene knee supports when I play walking football and when I go dancing.  I think it's just down to general wear and tear in my case, but I've just finished a two month course of steroids for something unrelated and had no joint pain but it's come back now I've finished the course.  Probably best to seek proper medical advice, but resting it up won't do any harm.

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12 hours ago, BabyBoyAndMyLass said:

My father used to swear by Neatsfoot oil rubbed in.

Another mate who is a Apiculturist has his bees sting him on the knee, works for him! :hatsoff2:

You're not the first I've heard that from regards both of the remedies, also WD40 is supposed to work.  I just suffer, having danced on a sprained ankle I figure if you feel pain you are still alive.

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16 hours ago, BabyBoyAndMyLass said:

My father used to swear by Neatsfoot oil rubbed in.

Another mate who is a Apiculturist has his bees sting him on the knee, works for him! :hatsoff2:

Used to use neatsfoot oil to soften leather at work , as I remember it stunk to high heaven  and always used rubber  gloves when applying it .

Good on your Dads knees I do not know but it would stop you sitting on them when you were younger I would imagine !

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usually put my left hand in the blender, hurts like hell but makes me forget about the pain in my knees, next patient please, now, what seems to be your problem?............😂

On a serious note though, up and down the stairs does my knees in, so ibuprofen 200gs over the counter tablets do the trick for me, just take one as required.

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Think its a soul thing I know  lots of people on the scene whom suffer joint related problems mainly  knees and hips I've had one hip replaced 8 years ago   best thing I ever had done.  Now waiting to have the other done .also had knees scrapped.i guess like anything. If it's excessive  it's bad for you .40 years of dancing week in week out takes its toll

 

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My consultant won't replace my knee unless I finish work, he says I'll just wreck it. I had a micro fracture procedure and it's been quite manageable since. You can use ibuprofen and paracetamol, they work well together and you can take them over long periods. 

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I have trauma behind the knee according to the knee consultant, he said he was loathed to operate on it and suggested not playing footie for 12 months. I am 9 months in and it hurts when I am climbing stairs. Its a long old process and I have paid for loads of physio and knee straps. Its been suggested that I get acupuncture. I would try anything at this stage.

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Feeling all the posts about injuries - I need a new knee but am too young, apparently. My hip is going on the opposite side too now. Football in my late teens early 20s fooked me life u.

Use a comfortable flexible support and don't overdo it

Swim a few times a week and if you can cycle too but don't run or play football if at all possible. 

Hot baths not showers - hot water is a really underrated remedy imho and experience

Sports injury clinic once a month if time and money is about for you

Certain herbal remedies helped me when pain gets too much. Never mix this with a hot bath though - sounds like a good idea but really isn't the joyful experience you'd think it would be. 

Good luck with it all, mate. 

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On 22/10/2018 at 12:02, RICK SCOTT said:

usually put my left hand in the blender, hurts like hell but makes me forget about the pain in my knees, next patient please, now, what seems to be your problem?............😂

On a serious note though, up and down the stairs does my knees in, so ibuprofen 200gs over the counter tablets do the trick for me, just take one as required.

 

I was told by my sports injury guy to use a lot of ibuprofen take them in 4s as its safe you might get the shits a bit but that's all. 

Used to stock up on 600mg codeine orange flavoured dissolvable tablets when I went to Spain to bring back. They worked wonders when pain got a bit much. Makes a good fist of the most severe of hangovers too but might not work so well will the hand in blender thing though. 😄

Diazepam works wonders too but only ever on really hard days. I used to use it if I'd been playing golf too much in the summer. 

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On 21/10/2018 at 19:46, Winsford Soul said:

Have you tried using a  neoprene knee support with the articulated joint shape? 

Steve 

Steve ,I found it pressed on and restricted moment..Had physio and she strapped up the ligament common knee injury can walk better already ☺☺

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Seatone tablets - green lipped mussels - from New Zealand.  great for joint pain - need to take them for a couple of months initially before they get working.  You don't realise how much they help until you stop taking them!!

All the retired pro rugby players with knackered bodies swear by them.

Ageing PE teacher talking here!!

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My knee surgeon recommended Chondroitin and Glucosamine tablets which have been very good since the last operations. Other suggestions would be plenty of rest. Wearing soft crepe rubber sole shoes to dance. DO NOT SPIN. Switch to soft sole shoes for daytime wear - some trainers are brilliant and Church's Leyton shoes have a really thick, soft wedge type heel. Let us know what you tried and if it helped...

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21 hours ago, FRANKIE CROCKER said:

My knee surgeon recommended Chondroitin and Glucosamine tablets which have been very good since the last operations. Other suggestions would be plenty of rest. Wearing soft crepe rubber sole shoes to dance. DO NOT SPIN. Switch to soft sole shoes for daytime wear - some trainers are brilliant and Church's Leyton shoes have a really thick, soft wedge type heel. Let us know what you tried and if it helped...

Last week I could not wear a heal leather sole the angle was wrong.flat boat shoes plastic sole worked well with talc .2 weeks prior i wore heals with pain. After physio I wore heals again won't dance for another 2 weeks .. will post later 

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1 hour ago, Soulhock said:

Last week I could not wear a heal leather sole the angle was wrong.flat boat shoes plastic sole worked well with talc .2 weeks prior i wore heals with pain. After physio I wore heals again won't dance for another 2 weeks .. will post later 

Sensible to vary footwear and have breaks to recuperate. I’ve lost track of the times I went to a soul venue and vowed to not dance - two or three pints down and a good tune spun, you can’t keep me off the floor. Torn ligaments need very careful management before surgery becomes necessary - be selective about the records you dance to rather than stay on the floor for whole sets.

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On 08/11/2018 at 23:02, FRANKIE CROCKER said:

Sensible to vary footwear and have breaks to recuperate. I’ve lost track of the times I went to a soul venue and vowed to not dance - two or three pints down and a good tune spun, you can’t keep me off the floor. Torn ligaments need very careful management before surgery becomes necessary - be selective about the records you dance to rather than stay on the floor for whole sets.

Frankie good call mate . Two weeks ago heels no good .flat boat shoes. Plastic soles and talc were fine. But took thick socks just in case I needed  no shoes..wrong side of 60 for a quick fix ! Hope fully the 24th will see me on the floor again.Then a month of .KTF 

 

 

 

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I used to be involved in competitive cycling so speak with considerable experience of physios in relation to knee issues. Very often the diagnosis given is wrong so please keep an open mind. I would suggest you start off by stretching your glutes as if they are tight they are likely to be pulling the knee out of alignment, it was one of my most frequent issues. I would also suggest you do some pelvic exercises, without involving the Mrs that is, as again if there are alignment issues here they will affect the way you walk thus the knee will suffer.  

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I was too tired last night to complete my earlier posting and will now do so. This is an important read for anyone with what they perceive to be knee problems, as the probability in many cases will be that the origins/causes lie elsewhere.

Think of the knee as a hinge, after all that's precisely it's roll. Now imagine a door and it's frame which have both been excessively painted and therefore won't close properly. After some considerable time, the hinge too will have become used to operating only to a certain point. If the paint is then stripped from the door and it's frame, it's likely that the hinge may now struggle to close fully through long term lack of it's full range of movement being used.

Now apply the same principle to the knee on the basis that one or more group of muscles that are fixed to it's area are tight, it's simply not going to function correctly and may be misaligned. If the tight muscles are gradually loosened through exercise the knee will still need to adapt to the muscle corrections, one could say it will become confused by the new tensions and there may be some hidden damage especially if we're looking at a long term injury. As everything is ultimately connected in the body the problems in one area can often be distant to where any pain or injury is felt.

Which brings me to the most important point of this posting, my own knee related issue which prevented me from reaching the level I had hoped to reach in my cycling. After many years of left knee irritation, be it during a 10 mile time trial or an 80 mile road race, whereby it kept feeling as if I needed to constantly extend the left leg further to ease it off, whilst laying on my back one day with my legs bent at the knee (approx 90% bend), I noticed the left upper leg limb appeared to be approx one centimetre longer than that of the right. After viewing if from several other positions I was proven correct, but how the hell did none of the physios I'd used over the years not notice this?

As a result of discovering the above I finally established why I had suffered so many issues, the fact is that because I was using the same length pedal cranks on each side of my bikes, my body was effectively being twisted through the imbalance of the leg lengths. Other muscle groups were having to compensate for such but the left knee was the weak point, the hinge that couldn't naturally open to it's fully required range. If I'd known many years earlier I could have used cranks of differing lengths.

I would now therefore advise anyone reading this to examine their own leg lengths. Are the upper and lower limbs the same length each side? If they're not then you need to start thinking about how this might be affecting your every day movements. I'll be interested to hear the results, especially from the original poster.

Martin

  

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