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They never had two step in 1973........Oh really !!!!

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Going back to the Samson & Delilah Don't Listen To Your Friends 45 from the previous page, the matrix number as supplied by @steveh73 in the run out groove is S8621 806. The 806 might refer to 1980 June, but my thoughts are if it does then it's in relation to the recording date, not the pressing date. I only have just under 50% of my collection on a database so far, however the nearest numbers I have in this matrix series are:

S8845/6 Funn - School Daze 12", S8854/5 Lesette Wilson Attention LP on which it is stated that it was recorded in July 1981. Prior to these I have S7923 to 6 made up of 2 releases on ALA (114 & 115) both dated 1980. 

The difficulty with matrix numbers is that some examples are laquered or mastered at one plant but very often pressed or repressed at another, sometimes retaining the same numbers, it's not a process I know enough about so any links to detailed info appreciated. However, assuming the above numbers are all related to the same plant/s it looks as if Samson & Delilah would have been pressed mid 1981. 

As to the version by First Class, it too does not have a date on the label and I have it in my collection as 1980/81. So as yet it looks as if it's still tricky to say which is the original release of the song especially as it's written by someone who couldn't be linked to either band directly from the data available on Discogs. If anyone has more info please post it up provided it can be verified. Here's the First Class version, thanks

 

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As this thread has had so many views, I decided to try to give it a bit more balance in terms of the years the recommended tracks were from, however that proved harder than I expected. I don't own many 45's from the early 70's largely because being more interested in rhythm than vocals, my collecting is generally from 1976 onward. I did the best I could with what I had but came to the conclusion that there just isn't anywhere near the quantity of records from the early 70's that one could call two steppers, as there is from the early 80's and beyond, because the style of bass playing that drives a lot of the tracks in that later period simply wasn't there in the early 70's. The majority of slow tempo tracks I tried were too ballad styled, and as I only ever upload videos of tracks I physically own I eventually settled on these four to begin with. I shall venture further into 1975 tomorrow. [Note that the BPM's stated are only approx and taken over 2 x 20 beats tests for each]

First up are Sister Sledge from 1974, possibly just too much on the ballad side but near enough to two step for inclusion I feel, 76 BPM

Next we have a one off release for Atlantic by Natural Essence from 1974, after having released an LP on Fantasy in 1973. It's a Billy Cobham production hence the excellent rhythm, and the vocalist is Yvonne Fletcher who had later success with TS Monk. 86 BPM

Next is Howeefeel on Contempo from 1975, a Chicago act but this record was only released in the UK despite the label making reference to Innovation II. They are relatives of Carl Davis and from the late 70's became known as Davis Import releasing several records on AVI, all of which in my opinion are either so bland or simply trash, that few collectors are likely to need to investigate them. The track uploaded is 99 BPM, and on reflection perhaps not quite a two stepper but it's not far off if so. Perhaps I'm too self conscious?

Finally the last track is by The Moments from 1974. It's the most clear cut two stepper of the four, a shame it's so short though. 75 BPM

 

 

 

 

 

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Curti's "Trippin' Out" is my absolute favorite track from the album "Something To Believe In". I likes a lot the "intimist" style of this album as also the "Never Say Can't You Survive" from around 2 or 3 years before, with the gem "Sparkle". Curiously "Trippin' Out" is wrote by another favorite soul man of mine: Bunny Sigler who collaborated with Curtis as producer - songwriter jointly with Norman Harris on the Curtis album "Heartbeat".

Another "two-steps" one by Curtis, so mellow and so social concerned, is "Homeless" from the album "Takin' To The Streets".

I think, this one (a favorite of mine simply for the whistle on the intro and at the end!) can be labeled as "two-step":

 

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nice two step imo  just love this classic (body fusion)

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@Roburt said to @Martin SI can't agree that everything Davis Import released is trash & not of interest to soul collectors ...

Who made that quote Roburt? I didn't see it. Was it copied from this thread?.

I made a posting re Davis Import, in which I stated the following: "all of which in my opinion are either so bland or simply trash, that few collectors are likely to need to investigate them."

I used to have the tracks that were in the three links you uploaded but imo all 3 of them are so bland that I got shot of them some years ago. I did listen on Youtube again to every track issued under the name Davis Import before making my original posting and I remain of the opinion that "few collectors are likely to need to investigate them." The important question is, why would they, given what else exists and the quantity of it?

As a successful full time trader from 1991 to 2012, not once did I ever receive a request for a Davis Import track. I'm damned good at judging the market and I believe if I'd played the entire Davis Import catalogue to 10 different customers, I doubt if more than one would have shown much interest, and even then it may have been purely because they were AVI collectors. 

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@Roburt said to @Martin SI can't agree that everything Davis Import released is trash & not of interest to soul collectors ...

Who made that quote Roburt? I didn't see it. Was it copied from this thread?.

I made a posting re Davis Import, in which I stated the following: "all of which in my opinion are either so bland or simply trash, that few collectors are likely to need to investigate them."

I used to have the tracks that were in the three links you uploaded but imo all 3 of them are so bland that I got shot of them some years ago. I did listen on Youtube again to every track issued under the name Davis Import before making my original posting and I remain of the opinion that "few collectors are likely to need to investigate them." The important question is, why would they, given what else exists and the quantity of it?

As a successful full time trader from 1991 to 2012, not once did I ever receive a request for a Davis Import track. I'm damned good at judging the market and I believe if I'd played the entire Davis Import catalogue to 10 different customers, I doubt if more than one would have shown much interest, and even then it may have been purely because they were AVI collectors. 

They were a Soul group from Chicago formed by four brothers (Bruce, Cameron, Doug and Glen) in the late 1970s. Although they are cousins of legendary producer Carl Davis they did not establish a successful career. After the band was disbanded in the early 1980s the brothers moved to the Los Angeles area.

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Although AVI issued music in a wide variety of genres, they are best known for their 1970s disco releases.

There greatest moment for me was this

 

 

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Staying with the purist two-steppers, the Philadelphia Int label was a real treasure trove and each of these is available to listen to on YouTube and (probably) available to buy on Discogs!!

Silk - I Can't Stop Turning You On

Futures - Ain't Got No Time Fa Nuthin'

Jean Carn - My Love Don't Come Easy

O'Jays - Summer Fling

Jones Girls - This Feelings Killing Me

Jones Girls - Nights Over Egypt

Jacksons - Blues Away

Peoples Choice - Soft and Easy

Billy Paul - Your Sweetness Is My Weakness

Instant Funk - So Glad I'm The One

Enjoy!!!

Steve...……..

 

 

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Although this thread may be drawing to its natural end, here are some views from the beginning of 1991, when Steve Hobbs discussed the 2-step scene on his Soul Bowl show on Jazz FM (London), with Bill Shannon, fellow DJ, record shop owner and sometime producer.

The conclusion was – as mentioned in this thread – that it began as an offshoot of the reggae scene in the mid-1980s, with a small number of Sound Systems (Manhattan, Latest Edition (Addition?), Just Good Friends and Mystery) playing soul records with a similar tempo and with a funky, bass-y beat, mainly at house-parties in Shepherds Bush, Harlesden and East London.  The music was also being played by pirate stations that proliferated in London at that time.

There were no clubs specialising in the music and just a few record shops: Time Warp; Lee Sound and Lighting; Time Is Right; PPM and Footprints (all ??).  The scene evolved in parallel to the similar “Dusty Steppers” or 2-step scene in Chicago.  Records being played on either side of the Atlantic were not necessarily rare and included new releases, with the right beat/tempo.   There were no compilation albums at that time focussing exclusively on 2-step.  Apart from the Backbeats compilation – 2 Steps To Soul Heaven, have there been any since?

The records Steve and Bill played that evening were:

Chuck Jackson – Through All Times

Real Thing – Love Takes Tears

Everlife – I Love You Girl (slower tempo than most)

Heaven and Earth – I Can’t Seem To Forget You

Darlene Love (not the erstwhile Phil Spector associate) – What’s Inside Your Heart (produced by one Bill Shannon on DT Records of Detroit)

Spain – You Are

Ken Williams – Sweet Music, Soft Lights and You

All are worth a listen.

Other records mentioned that had been popular on the scene in earlier years were: Eighties Ladies – Turned On To You; Archie Bell and the Drells – Don’t Let Love Get You Down; Foster Sylvers – Misdemeanour; Jones Girls – This Feeling’s Killing Me; Jeffree – Love’s Gonna Last; Benny Johnson – Visions of Paradise; and Arnold Blair – Trying To Get Next To You, so plenty of overlap with modern soul. 

Then as now (according to some of the records included in this thread), pop records had also been played, such as Barbara Streisand – Guilty; Yvonne Elliman – Love Me; and Rupert Holmes – Pina Colada (ugh!) 

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I have remembered right now at my favorite tune by The Moments: "Sexy Mama" (I think is a 100% two-step)

 

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On 27/12/2018 at 18:23, KesalocaSoul said:

Although this thread may be drawing to its natural end

Not whilst members are tipping each other off with the quality on display so far. Added to that I just established something that surprised me thanks to your posting: Mille Jackson & Isaac Hayes Soft Lights Sweet Music, I honestly didn't know that was a cover version and I expect I am not the only one! I prefer the MJ & IH because it has a funkier edge to it but it was worth listening to the original, it's very different, thanks for that info.

Just to comment on a few of the recent uploads, with BPM's included as they're on my database. Steve has taken a commanding lead in the BPM race breaking the 110 barrier with Nights Over Egypt at 110.3, nice to see the record go with such a phenomenal tune though. He also takes what I believe may be 4th spot as well with O'Jays Summer Fling at 107.4. I played this track myself only 2 weeks ago, 3 times back to back to back it's that good. Deco I'm So Glad ranks as one of my favourites, a mind blower 97.0, Controllers Stay, tune 97.8, Chuckii Games 92.9, Intimate Connection 104.0. Whilst on the subject of Kleeer, recorded in 1987, released in 1993, BPM 100.2, the track in the video is one of my most played ever.

As the majority of contributors on this thread have been posting or discussing late 70's and 80's material, let me draw your attention to the Living Room DJ thread in which I've been uploading what I've been playing at home in the last two weeks and will continue to do so until further notice.

This two step thread has been the most enjoyable so far in my short time on the site, because every contributor has had something to say worth listening to and has been focused purely on the music and sharing their knowledge of it. I can't help but notice there are some people on the Northern and 60's threads who could do with following the examples set here, rather than posting one or two sentences often consisting of little more than slagging DJ's off for playing songs they didn't want to hear that resulted in only approximately 3 minutes or less per spin, of their lifespan being wasted. 

Enjoy:

 

 

 

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My three two stepper tempo tracks for the day as also mentioned in my Living Room DJ posting. The Positive Choice release is Black Ivory under a different name by the looks of things, a Buddah 12". The June Pointer LP also contains a track called Always which is actually the same song as that which appears in the Yates Brothers & Sister upload, both released in 1982 I prefer the YBS version.

 

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My three two stepper tempo tracks for the day as also mentioned in my Living Room DJ posting. The Positive Choice release is Black Ivory under a different name by the looks of things, a Buddah 12". The June Pointer LP also contains a track called Always which is actually the same song as that which appears in the Yates Brothers & Sister upload, both released in 1982 I prefer the YBS version.

 

Really like that YBS tune and one I play regularly at home as well!! Talking of which, if I can also pick 3 for today, 2 from the later 80s and the last almost a new release. Hope they add something positive to your Saturdays!!

 

 

 

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One for Saturday tea time. Got that essential bubbly sound 

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On 27/12/2018 at 18:23, KesalocaSoul said:

Although this thread may be drawing to its natural end, here are some views from the beginning of 1991, when Steve Hobbs discussed the 2-step scene on his Soul Bowl show on Jazz FM (London), with Bill Shannon, fellow DJ, record shop owner and sometime producer.

The conclusion was – as mentioned in this thread – that it began as an offshoot of the reggae scene in the mid-1980s, with a small number of Sound Systems (Manhattan, Latest Edition (Addition?), Just Good Friends and Mystery) playing soul records with a similar tempo and with a funky, bass-y beat, mainly at house-parties in Shepherds Bush, Harlesden and East London.  The music was also being played by pirate stations that proliferated in London at that time.

 

There were no clubs specialising in the music and just a few record shops: Time Warp; Lee Sound and Lighting; Time Is Right; PPM and Footprints (all ??).  The scene evolved in parallel to the similar “Dusty Steppers” or 2-step scene in Chicago.  Records being played on either side of the Atlantic were not necessarily rare and included new releases, with the right beat/tempo.   There were no compilation albums at that time focussing exclusively on 2-step.  Apart from the Backbeats compilation – 2 Steps To Soul Heaven, have there been any since?

 

The records Steve and Bill played that evening were:

 

Chuck Jackson – Through All Times

 

Real Thing – Love Takes Tears

 

Everlife – I Love You Girl (slower tempo than most)

 

Heaven and Earth – I Can’t Seem To Forget You

 

Darlene Love (not the erstwhile Phil Spector associate) – What’s Inside Your Heart (produced by one Bill Shannon on DT Records of Detroit)

 

Spain – You Are

 

Ken Williams – Sweet Music, Soft Lights and You

 

All are worth a listen.

Other records mentioned that had been popular on the scene in earlier years were: Eighties Ladies – Turned On To You; Archie Bell and the Drells – Don’t Let Love Get You Down; Foster Sylvers – Misdemeanour; Jones Girls – This Feeling’s Killing Me; Jeffree – Love’s Gonna Last; Benny Johnson – Visions of Paradise; and Arnold Blair – Trying To Get Next To You, so plenty of overlap with modern soul. 

 

Then as now (according to some of the records included in this thread), pop records had also been played, such as Barbara Streisand – Guilty; Yvonne Elliman – Love Me; and Rupert Holmes – Pina Colada (ugh!) 

Much respect to Barbara but this matches it

 

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On 27/12/2018 at 12:23, KesalocaSoul said:

 

 

Then as now (according to some of the records included in this thread), pop records had also been played, such as Barbara Streisand – Guilty; Yvonne Elliman – Love Me; and Rupert Holmes – Pina Colada (ugh!) 

      I guess every scene has it's share of records that don't quite fit the mold. This is a Classic Chicago Steppers track - 

                   

 

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5 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

Much respect to Barbara but this matches it

 

 

5 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

Much respect to Barbara but this matches it

 

Barbara for me....

 

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Just two from me today:

 

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This seems like an ideal candidate to me, no idea if it's ever had 2 step plays … from way back in 64 (listen to this and then Lou Ragland's MAKIN LOVE) …

 

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On 29/12/2018 at 19:12, Blackpoolsoul said:

Much respect to Barbara but this matches it

 

Great band. Their album is one of the best of the eighties. There's not a weak tune in it

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Great thread, can I ask that we all read the thread below before posting YT vids please, re-opening now.

 

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On 20/12/2018 at 14:07, Martin S said:

Okay, I've checked the rest of todays uploads. When I look at each contributors consistency, Surfcity can hold his head up high. I didn't know that Boz Scaggs track so thanks for uploading that. For everyone else still in doubt, that Boz Scaggs track is precisely the definition of two step. Immediately the track starts the driving bass line groove is there, BPM loosely timed is 76.6. As for Tyrone's Love Triangle, the mix in the video is a messy too long intro mix, the regular mix though suggests this is yet another two step track and the BPM is 70.6. 

Sadly the two uploaded by Concrete are not two steppers. Emotions Flowers is approx 108 BPM and an obvious dance track, and Eighties Ladies despite being within BPM range of approx 92 BPM, is a dance track. Both of these were classic floor fillers.

At this point I should just say something I didn't mention in my earlier postings. I was a well known trader [Safe Sounds] throughout the 90's at the London Black Music Record Fairs, and promoter of my own occasional fairs in Croydon and Kingston early 90's. I was therefore in direct face to face contact with many serious collectors of two step in the London area, and therefore feel I'm in a good position to make judgement on precisely what qualifies.

I disagree Martin re Flowers- Emotions, it was played on connoisseurs/ 2 step shows back in the 80`s/90`s on pirate and Choice f.m.  I`m also from London and went to the Black Music fairs but you already know that lol. Sent ya a pm. 

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On 25/12/2018 at 05:08, modernsoulsucks said:

We used to sell a lot of two-step [and rare groove] albums from our stall in Manchester back in late 80's and the 90's. A London guy called Victor [and his mate Stanley] used to come up to Manchester and kinda told us what to look for style-wise.

In the USA at the time these albums were easily available and so a trip to US looking for Northern was financially cushioned if you knew what to look for in those other styles. I remember the first warehouse I went into in Atlanta in '88 I must have come out with 1000+ albums at $1 each.

Did the London fairs regularly. They'd sell like hot cakes. One time the table went over there was such a crush to buy. Reminded me of Wigan record bar at times.

This track was a popular cheapie [nice little riff at the beginning and repeated toward the end]

 

 

 

Victor and Stan(Stan being no 1) were 2 of the top collectors in London on the 2 step/London scene.They also were into the sweet /Deep/xover as well. They had a good ear.  There`s another guy called Junior who also has a good ear and top collection. Great guys. 

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A two step number by one of my all time favorite jazz-soul vocalist (from his Total Experience 1984 "Lately" album):

 

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On 25/12/2018 at 05:08, modernsoulsucks said:

We used to sell a lot of two-step [and rare groove] albums from our stall in Manchester back in late 80's and the 90's. A London guy called Victor [and his mate Stanley] used to come up to Manchester and kinda told us what to look for style-wise.

In the USA at the time these albums were easily available and so a trip to US looking for Northern was financially cushioned if you knew what to look for in those other styles. I remember the first warehouse I went into in Atlanta in '88 I must have come out with 1000+ albums at $1 each.

Did the London fairs regularly. They'd sell like hot cakes. One time the table went over there was such a crush to buy. Reminded me of Wigan record bar at times.

This track was a popular cheapie [nice little riff at the beginning and repeated toward the end]

 

 

 

Victor and Stan(Stan being no 1) were 2 of the top collectors in London on the 2 step/London scene.They also were into the sweet /Deep/xover as well. They had a good ear.  There`s another guy called Junior who also has a good ear and top collection. Great guys. 

Not really 2 step but still a good Modern/Southern Stepper produced by Willie Tee. 

 

 

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Another more for the connoisseurs /Sweet Soul Modern Stepper with Strings and Things.

 

 

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