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few for identification originals or boots and acetates

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need a little help in identifying a couple  -  first is the  -   originals - ain't no sun - suspension records  -  this is a black issue with SUSP-IOOI - T.A.B  F.G in the run out

larry  williams  -  this  old  heart (is  so  lonely )  -  okeh  4-7259  scratched in run out groove is ZSP114476 - what makes me think it might be a boot is the label is moulded over rather than a stick on label

kerry  adams - fast  talking  -  bell acetate

mike  tomasetti  -  come  see  what  i  got  -  sound  studios  inc

the next  disc  has no name on label  just the name of the song (come home baby)  sounds  like mel torme  the label has -PRONTO/COTILLION music, inc  it is a one sided disc

next one, this again is a one sided disc it as the title of the song (just a few more minutes ) but no artist  the label is studio 76

and lastly a boot of   little johnny hamilton  -  oh how i love you  -  dore -  it has LJB-398  and delta no 59862  the run in has a bevelled edge. i haven't seen one before i was just wondering when it was booted.

  thanks michael

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The delta number for the Little Johnny Hamilton is from Nov./ Dec. 1965.

Not sure about the rest of the releases.

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All the acetates look cosha, could the ordinals be a Canadian issue? The Larry Williams is a little dodge, never seen a vinyl pressed okeh before , but I know nowt. 

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They all look kosher to me. Or at least the scans do. Do the acetates smell of chemicals? That might be an indication of their age. Originals on Suspension is US. It's not the Motown act.

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Larry Williams, I wouldn't think that was booted? I'll dig my copy out and see if it's stick on label, I can't remember. Here's a link to a listed copy that looks like moulded label but the video looks like styrene stick on... http://www.45cat.com/record/47259

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Thanks for the info. 45cat.com  is usually  a reliable source of information .Looks like there is moulded as well as stick on labels Perhaps when you dig out your copy you could let me know please.

regards michael  

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Hi Michael, 

My Larry Williams, bought from Soul Bowl in the late 80's has a stick on label. I think you're right and there are 2 sorts, pretty sure that is the case with some other Okeh 45's.

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10 minutes ago, Soul-Slider said:

Hi Michael, 

My Larry Williams, bought from Soul Bowl in the late 80's has a stick on label. I think you're right and there are 2 sorts, pretty sure that is the case with some other Okeh 45's.

Pressed in with vinyl and styrene if memory serves.  The one above is real un.

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On 30/01/2019 at 23:24, Benji said:

They all look kosher to me. Or at least the scans do. Do the acetates smell of chemicals? That might be an indication of their age. Originals on Suspension is US. It's not the Motown act.

Just realised my 'cosha' and was most definitely not kosher. 😁

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All look good to me but the Little Johnny Hamilton whose label color, texture and print don't look right as is it's "soft" rounded edge of the vinyl that should be "sharp" cut. This is the real deal.

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The Originals on Suspension booted ? I doubt and couldn't see when, why or for who ? The TAB scratch in the run out groove would be an addition done by someone to mark it's ownership I'd have believe.

Okeh had few releases at that stage who get issued on vinyl as well. Nothing dodgy about them. As for your acetates why would they be booted ?

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Run out as the delta symbol ( triangle )then the numbers  59862  also LJB-398 and a feint circle no other matrix numbers

Little Johnny Hamilton run out details above - Real or Boot?

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The little Johnny Hamilton looks like a boot to my eyes with that bevelled edge, best check the run out groove. 

Just a note on acetates, if they have a flip side check it against the official release, this isn’t an absolute rule but I have come across many very convincing acetates that have 2 songs cut that simply don’t belong together,  I think those are vintage acetates likely cut by DJs or even collectors in the states as many did with EMI discs back in the seventies here in the uk, they smell and feel right, but are not produced in the process of getting the original track out on 45... if you get my meaning ...

worth mentioning 

Mal

 

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Originals is an original

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On 06/02/2019 at 20:21, chalky said:

Pressed in with vinyl and styrene if memory serves.  The one above is real un.

There was this one with publisher credits

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little johnny hamilton the label is the wrong typeface..think it was done late 80s may have been done from the original stamper tho

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There was some Doré reissued in the late 80s or was it 90s, probably one of those. 

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thanks guys for the info on LJH ,It is just as i thought a Dore' reissue from the 80s. 

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