Woodbutcher Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Devastating loss of master recordings now coming to light after the fire at UMG in 2008 ... https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jun/19/universal-music-group-we-owe-artists-transparency-over-master-tapes-fire-lucian-grainge Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 any label connected types willing to comment.. ? as in will this have much effect on future release plans etc etc? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rick Cooper Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 There was a report about this on the radio as well. The interviewee dismissed Universal's claim that nothing had been lost forever as he pointed out that these were the original multi-track studio tapes. So are any tracks that had never been released now lost forever? It looks that way but as Universal didn't seem to want to allow anyone to look at the tapes no one can know exactly what has been lost. Imagine what Ady and the guys at Ace could have found in tapes from Chess, Blue Rock, Smash, Philips, Mercury, MGM, Verve and loads of other labels. I hope Columbia, Warners, Capitol and others take better care of their tapes and get round to doing something with them apart from re-hashing more "greatest hits" comps. Rick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Joesoap Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 The New York Times article that broke this story is a great read and raises wider, and worrying, questions about the attitude of the corporate owners of recorded music's attitude to their archives... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/magazine/universal-fire-master-recordings.html Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) What is also worrying is that just three companies hold 70% of the market, no wonder the music today is shite. They seem proud that they have copies. They don't seem to realise the history they have been negligent with and lost forever. Edited June 21, 2019 by Chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Joesoap Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Quite. The article I posted also explains why digital copies are no good. This is like saying, 'Its okay The Louvre burnt down, we took pics.' Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Rick Cooper said: There was a report about this on the radio as well. The interviewee dismissed Universal's claim that nothing had been lost forever as he pointed out that these were the original multi-track studio tapes. So are any tracks that had never been released now lost forever? It looks that way but as Universal didn't seem to want to allow anyone to look at the tapes no one can know exactly what has been lost. Imagine what Ady and the guys at Ace could have found in tapes from Chess, Blue Rock, Smash, Philips, Mercury, MGM, Verve and loads of other labels. I hope Columbia, Warners, Capitol and others take better care of their tapes and get round to doing something with them apart from re-hashing more "greatest hits" comps. Rick Capitol is owned by Universal so maybe they lost tapes as well. Columbia owned by Sony. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rick Cooper Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chalky said: Capitol is owned by Universal so maybe they lost tapes as well. Columbia owned by Sony. Didn't know Universal owned Capitol now , are they trying to get everything. The reports about the fire didn't list any Capitol artists such as Sinatra or The Beach Boys so maybe Capitol have their own archives somewhere else. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Some very interesting comments in Variety report https://variety.com/2019/music/news/universal-music-fire-zero-impact-on-company-value-1203249173/ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 10 hours ago, JoeSoap said: Quite. The article I posted also explains why digital copies are no good. This is like saying, 'Its okay The Louvre burnt down, we took pics.' I suppose this is the difference between business men and music lovers. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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