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Is there a definition for the 'boogie scene'?

People a third of my age, mainly based in mainland Europe, plus or minus stimulants?

Post-disco disco tracks i.e sort of 80's 'modern soul' dancers?

Is there one in the UK?

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Boogie is a term that has been around for years and describes that early 80s synth-driven dance sound (for the most part as there are always exceptions). Not really an offshoot of the modern scene but 'Post-disco disco tracks' is actually a pretty-good description!!

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Well anybody who was 20 in the early 80s, like me! Is no spring chicken.

Almost a retro scene if it's a young crowd who ' boogie' now.

I must admit I did like boogie woogie woogie back in the day:)

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dance dance dance      Yowsa, yowsa, yowsa I wana BOOGIE WITH YOU-chic   

 

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I suspect, about 20 blokes in there late 20, early thirties form Germany and the like (probably yellow jean wearers!) who've got too much cash to spend on crap late disco tunes, to play to another 20 enthusiasts (Mainly blokes) in a room above some beer Cellar in Dusseldorf. But its dead cool. 😉 

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I can remember going to Steeleys in Sheffield to see the Players Association and it certainly seemed like a regular crowd was in place with whistles and dungarees made up the numbers.

Must admit though it was mainly jazz funk being played in between appearances of the band.

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Rock City Friday Nights in the 1980's

Had guests from the USA like "The Rock Steady Crew"

Electro Boogie was great to watch and continued to dazzle

This guy was my bang favourite in Paris 2006 (the music doesn't start until 10 minutes) what a genius

 

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Boogie is typically more mid-tempo than Disco - but like many such genre descriptions, it came after the music itself, so there aren't strict definitions.

The three 'Groove On Down' CDs were good primers years ago from Soul Brother (I think, could be wrong). There have been compilations since on XYZ Records -those these are generally more oriented to the dance rather than Soul aspect.

Although often associated with synths, many of the tracks are full of strings being influenced by Chic and Salsoul.

A lot of Soul artists made songs tagged later as Boogie just due to the era.

It has followers and collectors in France and Japan.  It's also now incorporated into a lot of south based UK Soul scene.

I don't think it has a 'scene' as such, there have been occasional nights dedicated to it - but it's really incorporated into Soul scenes as one style alongside such as 2-Step, Disco, Soulful House, Funk and more. A fair number of the vocal-led tracks cross over between 'scenes' such as New Jersey Connection with 'My Love Don't Come Easy' - late disco, electric funk, Boogie, Modern Soul?  It's all and none of those, which are just labels we put on later.

 

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2 hours ago, geeselad said:

I suspect, about 20 blokes in there late 20, early thirties form Germany and the like (probably yellow jean wearers!) who've got too much cash to spend on crap late disco tunes, to play to another 20 enthusiasts (Mainly blokes) in a room above some beer Cellar in Dusseldorf. But its dead cool. 😉 

You might have danced around to some boogie tunes in your yellow jeans not even realising they were classed as boogie tunes 😆

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The Whatnauts ‎– Help Is On The Way 

Denise LaSalle - I’m So Hot

Charles Jonson - Never Had A Love So Good 

11th Commandment — Dance With Me

Nedra  - Get Up & Dance

Wil Collins — Anything I Can Do

few that can think of off hand

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Post-Disco Funk/R&B music prevalent in the early 1980s. Commonly misidentified as 'Disco'. Notable artist include Imagination, Skyy, "D" Train, Freeez, Kashif, Evelyn King, Sharon Redd and Leroy Burgess.

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Kashif. What an artist, writer and producer. Deserves a thread on his own (as does Leroy Burgess).

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Agreed about Kashif and Leroy 👍

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My mate who was really into new stuff kept me fed with stuff from Alexander O'Neal, Luther Vandross, Wynans, Kashif, etc probably more late 80s to mid 90s.

One of the easiest to listen to was this:

 

Is this ' boogie' ?

Not sure if or where stuff like this is played?

Ed

 

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17 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

My mate who was really into new stuff kept me fed with stuff from Alexander O'Neal, Luther Vandross, Wynans, Kashif, etc probably more late 80s to mid 90s.

One of the easiest to listen to was this:

 

Is this ' boogie' ?

Not sure if or where stuff like this is played?

Ed

 

Not boogie, more "two-step" but what a tune this is, the late 70's early 80's were where this was happening, the production is huge Bobby Martin had moved on

More this

 

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There’s tons of rare boogie stuff, it wasn’t all chart tunes and a lot of it crosses over.

One mans boogie is another mans 80s modern.

 

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Tunes that come to my head as boogie 

Active Force. Give me your love.

Omari. After loving you.

Webster lewis. Let me be the one.

Passion. Dont stop my love.

Kashif . Rumours.

Mighty Figher. Sweet Fire/ Just a little bit.

Remember these getting played Clifton hall, Stafford modern/boogie all great tunes.

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Ok

I think I might have got it now.

The backing to these records from this period is definitely different to earlier disco tunes.

Sound great loud with a lot of bass.

Obviously the tunes at 30 to 40 years old now, to hear them again,  must be a specialist scene because I've never heard them at a soul night since they were new releases.

Forgotten. 

Just like a previous thread about the 1980 ish Jazz funk scene. The records never got absorbed enmasse into the northern/70s soul scene.

I'm glad somebody is playing them out again, yellow trousers or not:)

Ed

 

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Kashif    love this boogie tune

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funk masters

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don't know if you would call this boogie  but a tune anyway  starvue

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Not a million miles away, could this could have been an early boogie tune?

Was definitely played in the jazz funk rooms at release...and charted I believe.

Ed

 

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16 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

Not a million miles away, could this could have been an early boogie tune?

Was definitely played in the jazz funk rooms at release...and charted I believe.

Ed

 

Just like the "Northern Scene" records were "stolen" and played on different scenes, this track being "Afro Beat"......great tune and this is why records should not always be classed as certain styles as it was definitely played on the "Jazz Funk" Scene

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11 hours ago, 21 again said:

Tunes that come to my head as boogie 

Active Force. Give me your love.

Omari. After loving you.

Webster lewis. Let me be the one.

Passion. Dont stop my love.

Kashif . Rumours.

Mighty Figher. Sweet Fire/ Just a little bit.

Remember these getting played Clifton hall, Stafford modern/boogie all great tunes.

Rumors is fantastic example. One of the best.

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There's a reasonably big boogie scene in France, where UK band Delegation remain popular. The retailer and record label "Boogie Times" (still trading under that name on Discogs) put out a lot of reissued and unreleased stuff about 10 years ago, including 18 volumes of mostly obscure boogie tracks as well as various LPs (Rhyze, The Horne Section, Paradise, Cool Notes, Gee Bello and Light of the World).

Re definitions, post-disco disco, underground bass heavy funk, synth-heavy soulful dance ... the boundaries were and are quite fluid in practice. Ed's point above re Players Association is a good example. Boogie as a genre took the place of disco after the record burning event in Chicago which effectively redivided popular music along racial lines in the US, with boogie as a name serving as a sign of a kind of "cleaned up" disco with all the commercial dross taken out (e.g., Ethel Merman, James Last, even Sinatra).

Soul Brother's "Groove on down" comps are well worth a look. Ed's mention above of the Jam & Lewis produced stuff of the mid 80s is particularly relevant here. SOS Band's Jason Bryant produced this R. B. Hudmon boogie classic in 1983:

 

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Probably my favourite Kashif track, also from 1983:

 

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Back to 1981 for this belter of a boogie tune from a one-off LP release on Salsoul by Logg, aka Leroy Burgess and Greg Carmichael:

 

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Also from 1981, this obscurity from Mona Rae, mixed by Tee Scott, who was one of the big names of this genre:

 

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Staying in 1981 for this mid tempo dancer from Rockie Robbins:

 

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Another class tune WQBC Love me anyway. Expansion gave this a release mid 80s.

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More boogie tunes today, starting with this 1982 Tee Scott mix of Michelle Wallace:

 

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Back to 1981 for a release on a key boogie label, NY's West End, mixed by Larry Levan, it's Larry Joseph's Sparque:

 

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From 1982, this Carol Williams release on the same label as Players Association:

 

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ok as going down the audio road will move the topic into the audio forum shortly 👍

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From 1980, this Players Association tune, a big Les Adams favourite, shows how much overlap there could be between jazz funk and boogie:

 

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Here's a good run-down of boogie releases https://www.discogs.com/lists/Sean-Ps-100-Boogie-Essentials-1980-1984/20288

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