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Unknown version of Sky's the Limit - Don't be Afraid

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Hey all,

picked up a demo copy of this recently and it seems to play a previously unknown take of the a side. It features a totally new intro and synth bits over the choruses and a synth solo during a breakdown - one which doesnt feature on the known version.

The only way to tell the difference (other than playing it) is by the deadwax; A side is - irda - 356a - re2

So there's a few things Id like to know -

 

has anyone encountered one of these before?

is this possibly a test press before they decided to go for a stripped down version? if so, is this copy the only one or could there be more?

and does anyone have the story behind this track and the band? I know it was pressed by numero in that omnibus and they usually have great info on artists etc. can anyone share anything? 

 

thanks!

 

ps there's a clip of it on rare soul talk on fb, not sure how to upload it here

 

 

 

 

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Don't know the record but from what I can see, there's the 1976 'local' release (yellow stocker) and then there's the 1976 'IRDA' (white promo only maybe that was also re-isued as in 2012 by Numero Group) pick up release for national distribution. That would have had a re-mixed/worked version maybe...

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Yeah Im aware of all the pressings out there. The numero reissue of the demo plays the same a side as the original demo and the yellow issue.

I have a white demo that is identical to the other white demos aside from the deadwax and the song itself. the deadwax info also stands up as having a different number for the record - the known a side is 354A (and the b side 356B) whereas my copy is 356A and 356B. So it stands to reason that each cut was issued a different cat no. maybe. Im interested if anyone knows how the system worked back then; was it common to cut a very small run onto vinyl and then decide to press it again with a different cut because the first one was deemed unfavourable? 

 

I kind of assumed that would happen with test presses and acetates, not labelled up demos...

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Well not to say that it was a common practice, but yes, there's some records both on major labels or on smaller independent labels that have such take/mix variations that one can only tell appart by the eye via the 'run-out' matrix. 

It's more common where different pressing plants are involved for a 'same' record but then the label variations there should tell them appart. A test press or pre-release is either a 'generic' label to be filled in or a blank label. That's not your case is it ?

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No it's not, and I echo your statements! These were all pressed at the same place so it certainly is odd. It's reminding me of the recent Impressions - love me alternate take that's surfaced; i think im piggybacking off of the logic behind that one. but that was a pretty big release, and this one is relatively obscure.

anyone out there got the omnibus boxset and can post up the info behind this release? I know it wont reference this version but would be nice to find out more about the track and artist. cheers!

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The Impressions 'love me' alternate take (promotional) release for example is also anther pressing plant and just by the label can be tell appart. Not only for the 'star' - plug in - side and the timing at 3:00 instead of 2:55 for the other pressing plants and the 'regular' Leroy Hutson lead take.

Good luck with your quest finding somebody who might give you more insight on that matter for your Sky's the limit. Neve never tried but what about contacting some people at Numero Group maybe...

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3 minutes ago, Scootboy said:

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Scans maybe ? Sorry the photos of the text is rather hard to read.

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You can enlrarge it, the resolution is quite high 😉

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4 minutes ago, Scootboy said:

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YOU ARE SUPERB!

 

thank you so much, that info is fantastic.

 

I was thinking about reaching out to Numero, they in turn could put me in touch with any surviving artists to find out more. 

Interesting that the yellow issue seems the first press according to this, with the white "promo" coming in a close second; if im reading that correctly?

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Yes, the Yellow as I said is the first local release and then it got picked up by IRDA for national release which seemingly didn't get press beyond the promotional stage and with what seems now to be issued twice with different mixes/takes.

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1 minute ago, Tlscapital said:

Yes, the Yellow as I said is the first local release and then it got picked up by IRDA for national release which seemingly didn't get press beyond the promotional stage and with what seems now to be issued twice with different mixes/takes.

Yep that sounds about right - sorry my assumption around demo/promo first issue second blinded me to the obvious there! 

So maybe when it was picked up by IRDA for national release they tried out a different take and then decided against it; either before they pressed it up, or maybe even when they were thinking about pressing national issues (as it clearly hadnt done as well as they hoped maybe? my version is definitely a bit more exciting i guess, not as stripped back). 

 

Ill see if i can get in touch with someone involved in it to get confirmation. 

 

thanks all!

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