Soul16 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said: My thoughts exactly Here’s a close up... 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Baz Atkinson Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said: Baz. So true my friend. It also made us the people who we are now for better or worse. And was the start of many friendships that are still going strong now and a love for this music that has never died Bang on mate instead we get a picture of a bootleg of Frank Wilson it saddens me Steve but does not surprise me ! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Frankie Crocker said: Maybe a lookalikey mocked up for the clip? Nevertheless, a seriously important disc back in the day and of course, a big spin at the finale. Enjoyed the whole segment. I would be saddened if its was (sort of sums up this record scene) that some have inherited Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said: I would be saddened if its was (sort of sums up this record scene) that some have inherited Russ needed a copy of Frank Wilson to flash in the clip, but as there’s only two in existence, he had to improvise. As far as I’m aware, he has not stated he actually possesses a copy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chatty Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Frankie Crocker said: Russ needed a copy of Frank Wilson to flash in the clip, but as there’s only two in existence, he had to improvise. As far as I’m aware, he has not stated he actually possesses a copy. Sure I've heard him say in the past he made a carver before letting his go. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, chatty said: Sure I've heard him say in the past he made a carver before letting his go. So, did he actually own a copy back in the70’s? I know Soussan pilfered a file copy to bootleg the Eddie Foster cover-up - did this copy end up with Russ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chatty Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Frankie Crocker said: So, did he actually own a copy back in the70’s? I know Soussan pilfered a file copy to bootleg the Eddie Foster cover-up - did this copy end up with Russ? Soussan sent him some incarnation of it, because he was the one who had it first at the Casino. And I heard him say at a later date that he made a copy before he let his go ( something he says he should never have done) I'm sure he said the copy he had he swapped for a thousand pounds worth of records at the time. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, chatty said: Soussan sent him some incarnation of it, because he was the one who had it first at the Casino. And I heard him say at a later date that he made a copy before he let his go ( something he says he should never have done) I'm sure he said the copy he had he swapped for a thousand pounds worth of records at the time. I thought Les McCutcheon lent it Russ before he sold it to Jon Woodliffe, that's maybe when he did it Edited February 11, 2020 by Blackpoolsoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 All roads lead to DILYIID... As only an occasional attendee of the Casino, I cant say I've ever thought the tune and the club being synonymous... I think more afternoon of the rhino, rosemary what happened, and even where I'm not wanted, point first to wigan. Problem is they are not known to the general public. And why is the last night(s) even important. Apart from sentimental punter tears, what records got broke that will forever be remembered as wigan classics? Just feeling a little cynical as to the purpose of the programme subject. Ed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 58 minutes ago, Tomangoes said: All roads lead to DILYIID... As only an occasional attendee of the Casino, I cant say I've ever thought the tune and the club being synonymous... I think more afternoon of the rhino, rosemary what happened, and even where I'm not wanted, point first to wigan. Problem is they are not known to the general public. And why is the last night(s) even important. Apart from sentimental punter tears, what records got broke that will forever be remembered as wigan classics? Just feeling a little cynical as to the purpose of the programme subject. Ed Best viewed as an end of an era mini-documentary. Frank Wilson was one of a tiny number of records that crossed over into the public domain - as its value soared, the legend grew. If Russ actually played the tune out on an Emi-disc-carver-thingy, then such an artefact merits a place in the Wigan museum when the time comes. Whether records were first spun at Wigan or just popularised there, a little bit of information to educate the public is not a bad thing. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robin S Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Good to see my brother flicking the v’s at the cameras outside at 1 min 07. He’s dined out on that for 43 years! No doubt the majority shared his sentiments that night... 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve G Posted February 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said: I didn't realise he was the owner or had he borrowed it ? I thought it was a TMG with a "stuck on" Soul label. 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackpoolsoul Posted February 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Steve G said: I thought it was a TMG with a "stuck on" Soul label. My wife bought me a cashmere "looking" Jumper from Sainsburys (other supermarket clothes are available) and I wondered if I could put a Armani Logo on the front to spice it up a little, in case I am ever on the TV Edited February 11, 2020 by Blackpoolsoul 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Louise Posted February 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2020 Struggled to see the actual point/reason for this show, i mean the BBC can't afford to shell out for TV licenses for pensioners but they can afford to pay for Stuart Maconie and camera and sound man to ride around the country to film what to me was a pointless piece of journalism (and i use that term very loosely) Dave 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Steve G said: I thought it was a TMG with a "stuck on" Soul label. It just looked like a cardboard cut out inserted in a sleeve to me. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Steve G said: I thought it was a TMG with a "stuck on" Soul label. Indeed....closer inspection does show a sticky on label over a UK single.... Gawd forbid it's on top of the UK release and played out! Ive got a fake soul copy that Frank did sign...guilty as charged. Ed 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Chalky Posted February 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Frankie Crocker said: So, did he actually own a copy back in the70’s? I know Soussan pilfered a file copy to bootleg the Eddie Foster cover-up - did this copy end up with Russ? He never owned it. Soussan sent acetates over. Les McCutcheon Bought Simon’s collection which included DILY. It was then sold to Jonathon who sold it to Kev who I believe then sold it to Tim. The copy in the clip last night looks like an emi/acetate/carver with a photocopied label. 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Chalky said: He never owned it. Soussan sent acetates over. Les McCutcheon Bought Simon’s collection which included DILY. It was then sold to Jonathon who sold it to Kev who I believe then sold it to Tim. The copy in the clip last night looks like an emi/acetate/carver with a photocopied label. Jon swapped it with Kev for a load of LP's and Demos (12") 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, Chalky said: The copy in the clip last night looks like an emi/acetate/carver with a photocopied label. Yes on closer inspection, agreed. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chatty Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Chalky said: He never owned it. Soussan sent acetates over. Les McCutcheon Bought Simon’s collection which included DILY. It was then sold to Jonathon who sold it to Kev who I believe then sold it to Tim. The copy in the clip last night looks like an emi/acetate/carver with a photocopied label. Wonder what the interest/ value of the acetates sent over would be today then? How many got sent, who got one, what's happened to them? Has posted earlier definately remember Russ stating he "regretted letting his go". Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, chatty said: Wonder what the interest/ value of the acetates sent over would be today then? How many got sent, who got one, what's happened to them? Has posted earlier definately remember Russ stating he "regretted letting his go". The story is here and I think has been posted before https://soulstrutter.blogspot.com/2009/09/worlds-rarest-soul-record.html 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said: The story is here and I think has been posted before 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 have to say, considering this is all about the photo's, I'm not that impressed. They kept showing the same few shots and I don't see anything that the average punter wouldn't have captured. There's no reportage and its not really that creative IMHO, especially considering the significance of the event. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
davidwapples Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 16 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said: I just watched the short version . What was the Motown demo that Russ had on the desk ? First us demo version I've seen with a small spindle hole :P 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rick Scott Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Nothing new then, OK we got to know who 3 people were in a photograph at a last Wigan All-Niter as it was felt the need to track them down and identify them and talk to them, fair enough job done, nice guys who are still on the Scene enjoying and supporting the music. A nice touch when they were photographed together as they are now and they looked very happy about it and will obviously remember it all for a long time. Was it just an "Inside Out" News Report or Something else that may be in the Pipe Line for future viewing, One for the Conspiracy Theorists to think about I thought i saw 'Captain Obvious' Lurking about, or did i ? 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Caught up with it a bit later, bit of a non event really. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Rick Scott said: Nothing new then, OK we got to know who 3 people were in a photograph at a last Wigan All-Niter as it was felt the need to track them down and identify them and talk to them, fair enough job done, nice guys who are still on the Scene enjoying and supporting the music. A nice touch when they were photographed together as they are now and they looked very happy about it and will obviously remember it all for a long time. Was it just an "Inside Out" News Report or Something else that may be in the Pipe Line for future viewing, One for the Conspiracy Theorists to think about I thought i saw 'Captain Obvious' Lurking about, or did i ? Yes Rick, I have just been to a parents forum at our kids school and it feels the same.......what was the point of it really, I don't know 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Phathom Janitor Posted February 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2020 Yet again MORE embarrassing exposure on national tv. All I'm gonna say is after all those years after that final nite which I did actually attend (but glad not photographed)id just like to say the person behind this site requires a big thanks for keeping a real soul scene going after the supposed end of rare soul.and the likes of soultown (middleton) new century (various venues)Springfield. Rugby (Benn hall) 100 club .Notts boat club (and I'm sure new venue RAFA club)and other venues that look to the future (rather than sweat bands beer towels and baggy pants)there what the future is really about.had we relied on Mr winstanley to brings things until today it would never have happened !!at Wigan SOUL SAM got it rite.look at today Butch.andy Dyson .Ady croasdell. Mick H.carl fortnum.colin law.etc bringing quality to the table all those years on.so keep your tv shows.the above venues djs and this site will keep the rare soul scene going not crap inaccurate nostalgia.oh don t forget tomorrow nite "totally wired radio"with true legends Tony smith&Guy Hennigan who trust me the scene today has a lot to thank for his co tribution.oh thanks Mike keep up the good work 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Speedlimit Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 10/02/2020 at 21:58, Frankie Crocker said: So, did he actually own a copy back in the70’s? I know Soussan pilfered a file copy to bootleg the Eddie Foster cover-up - did this copy end up with Russ? Thatll be a big fat no 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Speedlimit Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 12 hours ago, Chalky said: He never owned it. Soussan sent acetates over. Les McCutcheon Bought Simon’s collection which included DILY. It was then sold to Jonathon who sold it to Kev who I believe then sold it to Tim. The copy in the clip last night looks like an emi/acetate/carver with a photocopied label. Yea a photo copy of Tim's copy at that beggers belief. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Tomangoes said: Indeed....closer inspection does show a sticky on label over a UK single.... Gawd forbid it's on top of the UK release and played out! Ive got a fake soul copy that Frank did sign...guilty as charged. Ed I think it’s an Emidisc with scratches revealing the metal underneath. The stuck on photocopied label has peeled off at the lower left - nothing a dab of Pritt Stick can’t fix. The spindle hole for a USA record has been cut by a blunt pair of primary school scissors. This is a very rare case of a USA label being applied to a record. Bids starting at £10,000 for this one-of-a-kind piece of legendary memorabilia... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I reckon someone would have paid a considerable amount of cash for Russ's copy of Soussan's acetate on memorability value alone . Certainly not the kind of cash that has been paid for a real one though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 At this point is the test press just discovered the rarest copy? Only one of them, but 2 or 3 of the soul demos... Anyway.....the programme achieved its objective. We are all talking about it! Ed 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Speedlimit Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Phathom Janitor said: Yet again MORE embarrassing exposure on national tv. All I'm gonna say is after all those years after that final nite which I did actually attend (but glad not photographed)id just like to say the person behind this site requires a big thanks for keeping a real soul scene going after the supposed end of rare soul.and the likes of soultown (middleton) new century (various venues)Springfield. Rugby (Benn hall) 100 club .Notts boat club (and I'm sure new venue RAFA club)and other venues that look to the future (rather than sweat bands beer towels and baggy pants)there what the future is really about.had we relied on Mr winstanley to brings things until today it would never have happened !!at Wigan SOUL SAM got it rite.look at today Butch.andy Dyson .Ady croasdell. Mick H.carl fortnum.colin law.etc bringing quality to the table all those years on.so keep your tv shows.the above venues djs and this site will keep the rare soul scene going not crap inaccurate nostalgia.oh don t forget tomorrow nite "totally wired radio"with true legends Tony smith&Guy Hennigan who trust me the scene today has a lot to thank for his co tribution.oh thanks Mike keep up the good work Totally agree, but feel sorry for Russ has he doesnt seemed to have moved on. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Wigley Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 10/02/2020 at 20:54, Frankie Crocker said: Maybe a lookalikey mocked up for the clip? Nevertheless, a seriously important disc back in the day and of course, a big spin at the finale. Enjoyed the whole segment. Looks like a UK Motown Copy (It has a black solid centre) with a poor photo copied label stuck on top ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Speedlimit said: Totally agree, but feel sorry for Russ has he doesnt seemed to have moved on. And still taking the credit for what he shouldn’t be Edited February 12, 2020 by Chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 BBC Omnibus 1978 tv northern clips related discussion split a to a new topic here are... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Get involved with Soul Source
Add your comments now
Join Soul Source
A free & easy soul music affair!
Join Soul Source now!Log in to Soul Source
Jump right back in!
Log in now!