John Moffatt Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Hope this is the right group. Apologies if not. I just wonder what this will end up at... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293441428961?ul_noapp=true Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ficklefingers Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Have you seen the size off the run out !! Bigger than the actual recorded grooves !! Is that real ?? I had one that sold early year2K but dont remember the run out being that big.. but - that was a long time ago.. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I'd say that some dick's bid about £100 too much already ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ficklefingers Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Thought it may have been just me Steve.. but thats got to be a dodgy one.. surely ?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russoul1 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 just seen it enough runout to make a rare ep version...…………..some real humpties out there Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Just looking at the piss-poor printing and the enormous runout sets the alarms off here , and that's without even putting my specs on ... Edited January 31, 2020 by WoodButcher Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ficklefingers Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Cheers Russ.. That confirms it for me then (I think.. possibly.. maybe.. ) 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ficklefingers Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, WoodButcher said: Just looking at the piss-poor printing and the enormous runout sets the alarms off here , and that's without even putting my specs on ... I didn't pick up on the piss poor printing Steve.. Better put me specs on !! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 What an original looks like - Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Shufflin Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) looks like the boot from 2009? Edited January 31, 2020 by Shufflin Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Shufflin said: looks like the boot from 2009? Sheldon Stamp In Deadwax for real one ? Edited January 31, 2020 by Blackpoolsoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Joesoul1958 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Yep original has a navy blue background behind the EXCELLO font, and not black as on the eBay copy, that’s the boot from 2009 as Shufflin said, somebody hasn’t done there homework unfortunately, Original copy as shown. Edited January 31, 2020 by Joesoul1958 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joesoul1958 said: Yep original has a navy blue background behind the EXCELLO font, and not black as on the eBay copy, that’s the boot from 2009 as Shufflin said, somebody hasn’t done there homework unfortunately, Original copy as shown. WLP was booted as well Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Moffatt Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 You all have the same suspicion I had when I first saw it. Unless I've missed it, it doesn't mention boot in the description. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Shufflin Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, John Moffatt said: it doesn't mention boot in the description yes, very naughty unless seller oblivious... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Joesoul1958 said: Yep original has a navy blue background behind the EXCELLO font, and not black as on the eBay copy, that’s the boot from 2009 as Shufflin said, somebody hasn’t done there homework unfortunately, Original copy as shown. Are there many originals with the address at the top of the label ?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Shufflin Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Winning bid: £226.00 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulstrutter Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Not sure there can be any comeback as It doesn't state that it's an original ... or a bootleg so anyone with any sense should assume it's a boot unless claimed to be original and even then you should do your homework before bidding. 'Every minute there is one born' ... somehow thinking/hoping they're getting a bargain. FFS an original goes for 4 times that amount! rat / smell comes to mind! The winning bidder had a ebay rating of 13541 .. so you would have thought they know what they were doing???? P.S. I don't even rate the record TBH ... can't stand popcorn! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, Soulstrutter said: Not sure there can be any comeback as It doesn't state that it's an original ... or a bootleg so anyone with any sense should assume it's a boot unless claimed to be original and even then you should do your homework before bidding. 'Every minute there is one born' ... somehow thinking/hoping they're getting a bargain. FFS an original goes for 4 times that amount! rat / smell comes to mind! The winning bidder had a ebay rating of 13541 .. so you would have thought they know what they were doing???? P.S. I don't even rate the record TBH ... can't stand popcorn! I wonder what Paypal would say if someone claimed as "not as described" seems a bit of a Quandary that one with Ebay being against counterfeits apparently Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jnixon Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Under distance selling laws it can be sent back within 14 days for any reason as the goods have not been seen live. Should have said it’s a boot but his other things for sale tell enough of a story and add that to the fact they can’t even be arsed to grade them says it all. Amateur buyers amateur seller - match made in heaven. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulstrutter Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said: I wonder what Paypal would say if someone claimed as "not as described" seems a bit of a Quandary that one with Ebay being against counterfeits apparently In my experience ebay/Paypal generally sides with the buyer when there's a dispute even in 'buyer remorse' cases! ... as Jnixon states they can return it within 14 days ... impulsive buyers just waste everyone's time. It doesn't look like the winning bidder made any other bids on it so perhaps bid at last minute without checking thinking they'd get it cheap. To be fair to seller it did start at £5 and didn't state it was original so common sense would tell you it can't be an original when with a quick check on Discogs the median price for an original is £600 and the bootleg is also listed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Soulstrutter said: In my experience ebay/Paypal generally sides with the buyer when there's a dispute even in 'buyer remorse' cases! ... as Jnixon states they can return it within 14 days ... impulsive buyers just waste everyone's time. It doesn't look like the winning bidder made any other bids on it so perhaps bid at last minute without checking thinking they'd get it cheap. To be fair to seller it did start at £5 and didn't state it was original so common sense would tell you it can't be an original when with a quick check on Discogs the median price for an original is £600 and the bootleg is also listed. I just wonder when we say "common sense" it's easy when "you know what you know" through experience, how many buyers are new and lack knowledge or new to collecting I have mentioned before at 14, I bought a Rufus Lumley, "I'm Standing" with my school dinner money, I never had any common sense or experience to know it was a bootleg (my wife says I have little common sense now) but 40+ years on I can tell a boot Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jnixon Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Soulstrutter said: In my experience ebay/Paypal generally sides with the buyer when there's a dispute even in 'buyer remorse' cases! ... as Jnixon states they can return it within 14 days ... impulsive buyers just waste everyone's time. It doesn't look like the winning bidder made any other bids on it so perhaps bid at last minute without checking thinking they'd get it cheap. To be fair to seller it did start at £5 and didn't state it was original so common sense would tell you it can't be an original when with a quick check on Discogs the median price for an original is £600 and the bootleg is also listed. Ignorance, which is what their not stating either way most likely is or will at least be the excuse, is no excuse. But that does cut both ways. If the buyer pays, Id imagine its just gonna be a payday loan. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Moffatt Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 12 hours ago, Shufflin said: Winning bid: £226.00 Ye gods!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 31/01/2020 at 20:23, Blackpoolsoul said: Sheldon Stamp In Deadwax for real one ? Does the boot have the Sheldon stamp in the deadwax ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chris Jay said: Does the boot have the Sheldon stamp in the deadwax ? Nah Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said: Nah Phew !!! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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