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this appears to be quite a definite report

any uk members up in the north east up for passing on a view from the floor?

 

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Perhaps if everyone did the right thing and stopped complaining about their rights then we wouldn't be in this situation again, like many others I've don't what they've told us to do, but due to the f

Absolute shitshow from the government. I don't believe for one second the shortage of tests is down to people who don't have symptoms going to have one (unless of course they've been asked to). There'

About 6 weeks ago in my home town they were telling everyone to get tested at a town centre site with or without symptoms.  Now that the system cannot keep pace they blame people for wanting test

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Shops in Newcastle have had visits from teams consisting of Police Officers and Council workers. They’ve been asking about a Covid risk assessments, checking signage and querying whether non-compliance by customers is being challenged. 
 

Scarborough is smaller and more isolated, but given that cases are said to be rising, I’ve updated the risk assessment we completed on coming out of lockdown to be on the safe side.

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Once again this pathetic generation is fcuking things up.  Demand outstrips supply as the meme,s want covid tests even though they Don't have symptoms,  are people stupid.  Everyone is telling you not to book a test unless you have symptoms.  100 people even turned up at Bolton hospital demanding a test because they couldn't get through on the website.  Wankers.  No wonder the country is broken 

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7 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Once again this pathetic generation is fcuking things up.  Demand outstrips supply as the meme,s want covid tests even though they Don't have symptoms,  are people stupid.  Everyone is telling you not to book a test unless you have symptoms.  100 people even turned up at Bolton hospital demanding a test because they couldn't get through on the website.  Wankers.  No wonder the country is broken 

 
 
 

bit of a harsh post Steve and have to say comes over as an angry old man type rant 

idea is to discuss stuff not just call everyone else wankers

what generation are you slating?

I read somewhere yesterday  its 40 -50 year olds getting admitted to hospital in that area

that who you're on about?

 

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Trouble is this country is full of very selfish people whom think that these restrictions doesn't mean them and  unfortunately until the government get a grip and basically force everyone to comply. Then I'm afraid they will continue to flaunt the rules to their own needs, and normal will take even longer to return. 

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36 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Once again this pathetic generation is fcuking things up.  Demand outstrips supply as the meme,s want covid tests even though they Don't have symptoms,  are people stupid.  Everyone is telling you not to book a test unless you have symptoms.  100 people even turned up at Bolton hospital demanding a test because they couldn't get through on the website.  Wankers.  No wonder the country is broken 

It's only a couple of weeks since the government were telling us all that absolutely EVERYONE should be tested - symptoms or not - now they are blaming us for doing as they instructed!

PS - I didn't follow their instructions...........didn't see the point if I wasn't showing symptoms.......

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I heard first hand from two teacher pals of mine yesterday. One of their own kids started with a cough and temperature. Both of the teachers were advised to isolate and get tested. They live in York. The closest test they were offered was in Blackburn.

Being responsible types they set off to Blackburn - and ended up driving past the testing centre in York, which was deserted...

After showing the people at the York centre that they had been sent a code to get tested, they were allowed to have the tests done in York. They didn't see anyone else arrive or leave while they were there.

Personally, I feel it's too easy for the government to blame the public for its own failures...

 

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On 17/09/2020 at 13:22, Mike said:

bit of a harsh post Steve and have to say comes over as an angry old man type rant 

idea is to discuss stuff not just call everyone else wankers

what generation are you slating?

I read somewhere yesterday  its 40 -50 year olds getting admitted to hospital in that area

that who you're on about?

 

Sorry Mike for the swearing just doing my head in .Just pointless people wanting tests when there is  nothing wrong with them. . Meaning the people who are ill can't get through . Not heard anything about 40 to 50 year olds getting admitted in hospital around here. Not grumpy at all infact I'm far more tolerant and chilled than ever. 

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About 6 weeks ago in my home town they were telling everyone to get tested at a town centre site with or without symptoms. 

Now that the system cannot keep pace they blame people for wanting tests , the real wan**rs are this government in my opinion sending out mixed messages daily.

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Absolute shitshow from the government. I don't believe for one second the shortage of tests is down to people who don't have symptoms going to have one (unless of course they've been asked to). There's only one direction for the blame to be pointed and it isn't the public. 

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Here is the local view from County Durham . Firstly local councillors are rumoured to clubbing their IQ together so it adds up 12. 

In the real world even though our rate is 37.7 ie County Durham we are part of the lockdown ? 
No matter where you stand politically this local inertia has been again pushed upon local people because a few power mad councillors deem it necessary? 
No consideration to the health and welfare of the local economy or family’s like mine  who need to visit elderly parents etc ? 
It’s  a shambles of cataclysmic proportions particularly for vulnerable groups , local business particularly small business the elderly and those with special mental health needs . 
In the meantime schools colleges etc have multiple bubbles all mixing etc quite freely ? 
ps the Night Time Economy in Newcastle alone is worth 340 million and that is just one of the areas ! 
Surely before people say this is for the better think of the jobs and livelihoods been lost and then compare that to the rising rate , it does not figure ? 

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Mike  not sure if this post is relevant for here 

I noticed today that some of the large supermarkets are starting to re introducing limits on some essential items after the government introduced new covid restrictions this week.  

I pack of toilet rolls per customer.  I hand sanitisers.  Are these morons living on the same planet as normal people 🤔 

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The tests are an absolute shambles and the figures bandied about not to be trusted.

My friends sister and husband booked a test and went to receive it.Stood in a queue for 1 1/2 hrs and hadn't moved so abandoned it and went home.Three days later lo and behold they both received test results stating one positive and one negative.

You couldn't make it up!!!!

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The tests are an absolute shambles and the figures bandies about not to be trusted.

My friends sister and husband booked a test and went to recieve it.Stood in a queue for 1 1/2 hrs and hadn't moved so abandoned it and went home.Three days later lo and behold they both recieved test results stating one positive and one negative.

You couldn't make it up!!!!

Friends grandson took his unused  test kit home from school by mistake and he has been told that his test was  inconclusive and needs to retake the test that he hasn't even taken . Anothor one that you couldn't make up. Shambles 

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54 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Mike  not sure if this post is relevant for here 

I noticed today that some of the large supermarkets are starting to re introducing limits on some essential items after the government introduced new covid restrictions this week.  

I pack of toilet rolls per customer.  I hand sanitisers.  Are these morons living on the same planet as normal people 🤔 

Ste, I was in Asda yesterday and the toilet roll and tissue shelves were almost empty, crazy. 🤡

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So they are trialing a home test kit At the moment - it’s like a pregnancy test except you drop a bit on blood on the window and within 5 - 10 mins you get results - guess they have to test it with so many 1,000 before they are confident to send the kits out.

Youre issued with a unique code that you enter on line.

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So they are trialing a home test kit At the moment - it’s like a pregnancy test except you drop a bit on blood on the window and within 5 - 10 mins you get results - guess they have to test it with so many 1,000 before they are confident to send the kits out.

Youre issued with a unique code that you enter on line.

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I have done one of those tests for a trial by the NHS a few weeks ago , simple to do and my result was a negative showing I had no antibodies , so I had not had covid.

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Perhaps if everyone did the right thing and stopped complaining about their rights then we wouldn't be in this situation again, like many others I've don't what they've told us to do, but due to the fact that a minority seem to think their invincible or that this is one big government con etc, we now have to wait possibly till the middle of 2021 before we can all do what we love. These people are so self centred, and selfish they just don't get it. But if they catch it they'll be the first to complain. 

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On 24/09/2020 at 20:41, Jkpnefc said:

The tests are an absolute shambles and the figures bandied about not to be trusted.

My friends sister and husband booked a test and went to receive it.Stood in a queue for 1 1/2 hrs and hadn't moved so abandoned it and went home.Three days later lo and behold they both received test results stating one positive and one negative.

You couldn't make it up!!!!

Somebody did! & those are the figures informing government policy. 

 

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I do not know if people have seen these:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-five-new-covid-19-laws-and-fines-that-government-slipped-out-12084433

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-jobs-that-dont-fit-with-covid-19-may-take-a-long-time-to-come-back-12084944

As highlighted in the first article, the following changes are now introduced nationally:

 

Owners of pubs, bars, cafes and restaurants must "take all reasonable measures" to stop singing on the premises by groups of more than six or any dancing.

Exemptions apply at weddings and civil partnerships - but only to the happy couple.

And owners of the same types of businesses have also been banned from playing music on the premises louder than 85 decibels.

Performances of live music are excluded from the duty.

 

I'm not intending to stimulate a debate on the merits of this or views on Coronavirus itself, but to highlight that the impact on the Soul Scene (and all dance based similar scenes) now looks profound for the foreeseeable future.  We are starting to see more enforcement being highlighted in the media.

The statements by DJ Fat Tony in one of the articles are noted, but nightlife and music at events while desirable to me, cannot said to be essential to life.  It's a horrible situation for those who made their living through people gathering in all their forms.

Even when restrictions are lifted, they will be gradual and it is hard to see the return of the Soul scene as it was in the near to even medium term.  The implications for organisers must be tricky to think through.

There have been a few attempts of small events outside (mostly scooter ones) and socially distanced inside - but the government clearly does not want them to happen and they may be closed down as things get more strict.  Today the government has had to clarify that people in the North East under restriction should not meet in pub gardens but that this is not illegal (as yet).  I notice the events part of the site seems to of cleared out in recent days.

Whatever our views, it seems we need to reconcile ourselves to a non-going out based Scene for a fair while (and like businesses, some venues, organisers or DJs may just not want or be able to wait it out). 

I know we all hoped for the scene's return, for now - we'll carry on enjoying the music however we can.

 

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I do not know if people have seen these:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-five-new-covid-19-laws-and-fines-that-government-slipped-out-12084433

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-jobs-that-dont-fit-with-covid-19-may-take-a-long-time-to-come-back-12084944

As highlighted in the first article, the following changes are now introduced nationally:

 

Owners of pubs, bars, cafes and restaurants must "take all reasonable measures" to stop singing on the premises by groups of more than six or any dancing.

Exemptions apply at weddings and civil partnerships - but only to the happy couple.

And owners of the same types of businesses have also been banned from playing music on the premises louder than 85 decibels.

Performances of live music are excluded from the duty.

 

I'm not intending to stimulate a debate on the merits of this or views on Coronavirus itself, but to highlight that the impact on the Soul Scene (and all dance based similar scenes) now looks profound for the foreeseeable future.  We are starting to see more enforcement being highlighted in the media.

The statements by DJ Fat Tony in one of the articles are noted, but nightlife and music at events while desirable to me, cannot said to be essential to life.  It's a horrible situation for those who made their living through people gathering in all their forms.

Even when restrictions are lifted, they will be gradual and it is hard to see the return of the Soul scene as it was in the near to even medium term.  The implications for organisers must be tricky to think through.

There have been a few attempts of small events outside (mostly scooter ones) and socially distanced inside - but the government clearly does not want them to happen and they may be closed down as things get more strict.  Today the government has had to clarify that people in the North East under restriction should not meet in pub gardens but that this is not illegal (as yet).  I notice the events part of the site seems to of cleared out in recent days.

Whatever our views, it seems we need to reconcile ourselves to a non-going out based Scene for a fair while (and like businesses, some venues, organisers or DJs may just not want or be able to wait it out). 

I know we all hoped for the scene's return, for now - we'll carry on enjoying the music however we can.

 

I think it's quite fortunate that down south at least have the opportunity to hear background music even if it's 85dB - we have a total ban on music up here in pubs, etc 

I know a lot of full time DJs up here are struggling but also recognise why the ban is in place and are actively supporting it even though it's killing them financially. 

 

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I thought I must post this, staggered again

One of my boys (age 9) had a rough night and a temperature and I got paranoid (being an old dad)

I checked his temp before he decided to be sick and had rung 111 (nothing for an hour)

Went on to the Gov site and no home tests available BUT we could take him to Barrow in Furness

1 h 58 min (77.9 mi) via M6 and A590 from the Tower Town

I have attached the websites distance guidance from here (I filled in the correct postcode) to Barrow WTF (Government again ?)

Do they supply a boat across the sea ?

How do you want to get the coronavirus test? - GOV.UK.pdf

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Blackpool/Barrow-in-Furness/@54.0424868,-3.2726598,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x487b4117e942d017:0xb52db2179232c2c9!2m2!1d-3.0356748!2d53.8175053!1m5!1m1!1s0x487ca5c2cbd22d81:0x59053d3db4cb3e5!2m2!1d-3.218894!2d54.108967!3e0

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Hope your lad is okay. 

Your post highlights that I envisage a lot of people just give up and we don't know the scale of the issue anymore.  Those people may be scared not to go into work or send thier children to school told not to say anything unless they get unwell - and so on it goes even if social settings are restricted.  I have to track all this and advise my work - I was on top of it for a long time, now it is impossible to work out definitively what to do and we cannot rely on fast changing, confusing and sometimes contradictory government directions. 

It is clear there isn't a central command and control on top of it all and if the PM doesn't know, we can't.  Our business is in Chorley and had the Greater Manchester restrictions to south, then the Preston ones, then the whole region ones, today Bolton was aligned with Greater Manchester.

So we re-closed our office anyway and carried on again fully from home.  We tried to do the right thing and put in a lot of measures, support and flexible arrangements for the staff - all of which lasted two weeks until we had to close again.

As I say, hope all goes okay for your lad.

 

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Hope your lad is okay. 

Your post highlights that I envisage a lot of people just give up and we don't know the scale of the issue anymore.  Those people may be scared not to go into work or send thier children to school told not to say anything unless they get unwell - and so on it goes even if social settings are restricted.  I have to track all this and advise my work - I was on top of it for a long time, now it is impossible to work out definitively what to do and wesimply cannot rely on fast changing, confusing and sometimes contradictory government directions. 

It is clear there isn't a central command and control on top of it all and if the PM doesn't know, we can't.  Our business is in Chorley and had the Greater Manchester restrictions to south, then the Preston ones, then the whole region ones, today Bolton was aligned with Greater Manchester.

So we re-closed our office anyway and carried on again fully from home.  We tried to do the right thing and put in a lot of measures, support and flexible arrangements for the staff - all of which lasted two weeks until we had to close again.

As I say, hope all goes okay for your lad.

 

Thanks, he seems pretty alright and wants to get better for the weekend so he can have a burger

4 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

I thought I must post this, staggered again

One of my boys (age 9) had a rough night and a temperature and I got paranoid (being an old dad)

I checked his temp before he decided to be sick and had rung 111 (nothing for an hour)

Went on to the Gov site and no home tests available BUT we could take him to Barrow in Furness

1 h 58 min (77.9 mi) via M6 and A590 from the Tower Town

I have attached the websites distance guidance from here (I filled in the correct postcode) to Barrow WTF (Government again ?)

Do they supply a boat across the sea ? so I can travel the 18.8 miles the Government say it is !!!!

How do you want to get the coronavirus test? - GOV.UK.pdf 36.27 kB · 7 downloads

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Blackpool/Barrow-in-Furness/@54.0424868,-3.2726598,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x487b4117e942d017:0xb52db2179232c2c9!2m2!1d-3.0356748!2d53.8175053!1m5!1m1!1s0x487ca5c2cbd22d81:0x59053d3db4cb3e5!2m2!1d-3.218894!2d54.108967!3e0

 

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I wasn`t allowed to say anything until this point, but it's now okay for me to share that I have volunteered for vaccine trials for Covid-19 that Bupa are running in partnership with Cambridge University. It's important that we all do our part to beat this virus. 
The vaccine is the one that has been developed in Russia. I received my first dose yesterday morning at 08:00 am, and I wanted to let you all know that it’s completely safe, with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι я чувствую себя немного странно и я думаю, что вытащил ослиные уши. чувствую себя немного странно

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