How far could Northern Soul be stretched?

[Tomangoes 2,970]

I love this

But its not a million miles away from this;

Any other "similar" sounds out there where one is northern and the other ain't?

Ed

[Thinksmart 384]

Lots of tracks that are both Northern Soul and/or Middle of the Road or early adult/soft Rock of course.

Also the Northern Soul/Funk aspect is even more obvious.

Plus of course the Northern Soul / garage/psych Rock songs.

[Twoshoes 1,253]

I've always though these two had a lot in common

 

 

[Stephen Houghton 237]

What about a moody blues tune called gypsy,played at Wigan very early I've got by drywell 

[Davenpete 1,369]

Don't think the Moody Blues version was ever played - the first release as Ellen & The Shandells on Lasalle was played.

How about this - heavy(ish) rock from Wigan - dodgy as f**k, but it's got something (at least I liked it enough to buy it) - isn't that Emmanuel Lasky in the middle - ? : ) :
 

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by Davenpete

[Reissue55 11]

Ooh , to the ends of the earth?

[Amsterdam Russ 4,113]

2 hours ago, Davenpete said:

the first release as Ellen & The Shandells on Lasalle was played.

<Off topic> The first release is actually Dry Well. There was no group called Ellen and the Shandells, so a member of Dry Well told me a few years back. Likely the Shandells release was unauthorised. </Off topic>

[Davenpete 1,369]

I've heard it said that it was not legit - however it's certainly a great rarer and was originally played as Ellen and the Shandells - maybe a US boot or a dodgy label owner? It is SLIGHTLY different from memory - though that may be in the mix rather than the recording.  Dx

[Amsterdam Russ 4,113]

1 hour ago, Davenpete said:

I've heard it said that it was not legit - however it's certainly a great rarer and was originally played as Ellen and the Shandells - maybe a US boot or a dodgy label owner? It is SLIGHTLY different from memory - though that may be in the mix rather than the recording.  Dx

Both sound exactly the same to these ears. Dry Well band member didn't know anything about the Ellen/Shandells release and told me that a) Ellen (lead singer) was never in the Shandells, and b) the Shandells had split before Dry Well was formed, and three of the Shandells were in Dry Well.

Indeed, as an unauthorised release, it's either down to label owner or band member with access to the master tape, or it's a boot. Given its rarity, it must have been a very small run. Maybe cut for a local audience and riding on the rising popularity of the Moody Blues original.

[Merve 74]

When this got played one night at Yate in 79 it blew away my theory that if its been played at a nighter its Northern Soul if it hasn't then it isnt !

 

[Winsford Soul 14,922]

Its stretched already with this r n b and funky stuff. . Hat , coat door. Bye  

[Davenpete 1,369]

Pete always remembered with disgust 'Baby Love' being played on the first night at Wigan (along with the third rate disco lights).
Dx

Edited October 9, 2020 by Davenpete

[Davenpete 1,369]

1 hour ago, Amsterdam Russ said:

Both sound exactly the same to these ears. Dry Well band member didn't know anything about the Ellen/Shandells release and told me that a) Ellen (lead singer) was never in the Shandells, and b) the Shandells had split before Dry Well was formed, and three of the Shandells were in Dry Well.

Indeed, as an unauthorised release, it's either down to label owner or band member with access to the master tape, or it's a boot. Given its rarity, it must have been a very small run. Maybe cut for a local audience and riding on the rising popularity of the Moody Blues original.

Was anything else released on this LaSalle label? (obviously different from the Detroit label). It's a long time since I owned it so can't remember if there were any details on the label.
Dx

Edited October 9, 2020 by Davenpete

[Amsterdam Russ 4,113]

6 hours ago, Davenpete said:

Was anything else released on this LaSalle label? (obviously different from the Detroit label). It's a long time since I owned it so can't remember if there were any details on the label.
Dx

A quick search shows Lauren (Dry Well) and La Salle (Ellen/Shandels) were owned by the same person - Carl Edelson - and that the Shandels had a couple of releases on the latter. Possibly then, Edelson had a small run of the Dry Well track cut and changed the name of the group without telling the band's members and thus avoiding any due payments. Perhaps someone cottoned on to the ruse and the 45 was withdrawn, which might explain its scarceness.

Interestingly, release numbers on La Salle prior to the Gypsy re-release are sequential, whereas this doesn't follow suit. 

Anyway, we digress from the original topic!

Edited October 9, 2020 by Amsterdam Russ
klaritee

[Tomangoes 2,970]

4 hours ago, Merve said:

When this got played one night at Yate in 79 it blew away my theory that if its been played at a nighter its Northern Soul if it hasn't then it isnt !

 

Pretty sure this got played at a few soul nights on release.

Ed

 

[Merve 74]

Blimey ! Don't remember it getting that grim mate 

[Winsford Soul 14,922]

On 09/10/2020 at 16:42, Merve said:

Blimey ! Don't remember it getting that grim mate 

Nor me

[Winsford Soul 14,922]

On 08/10/2020 at 14:59, Tomangoes said:

I love this

 

 

Ed

Ed. I used to have one of those lapel badges, gutted when i lost it

[Tomangoes 2,970]

You must be a rovrum fan like me:)

WAMAW

Ed

[The Yank 2,060]

Northern Soul -

 

Not Northern Soul -  ( ) 

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by The Yank

[Shinehead 1,860]

Everytime I hear True Image  -

'' I,m not over you '' that bag of crap by Gonzales - '' I haven't stopped dancing yet ''comes into my head.

[Merve 74]

10 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

Everytime I hear True Image  -

'' I,m not over you '' that bag of crap by Gonzales - '' I haven't stopped dancing yet ''comes into my head.

As an aside, it was Gonzales who backed Gloria Jones when she toured the nighters back in 76

[Shinehead 1,860]

3 minutes ago, Merve said:

As an aside, it was Gonzales who backed Gloria Jones when she toured the nighters back in 76

And she wrote the bag of crap .

[Tomangoes 2,970]

No

Yes

Ed

[The Yank 2,060]

Northern Soul- 

 

Not Northern Soul -