Benji Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Was wondering if somebody can help me? Bobby Bland - Ain't doing too bad - Vogue (France) v 45-1245 According to Discogs and 45cat this 45 (not the EP!) came out on Vogue only in France. However I have the french 45 with a definitely german picture sleeve. So I was wondering if this came out in Germany using the french press and adding a german sleeve to it. Or is there a german pressed 45 as well? Googled for it but only found either pictures of the french 45 or the german sleeve. But neither pictures of french 45 and german sleeve. Or pictures of a german 45. I know dutch releases were sometimes sold in Germany too, with a corresponding sticker, e.g. Tempests Well-Tempered Soul LP. But I'm not aware of any french 45s released in Germany. Any help much appreciated! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Hi Benji According to my good friend Harry van Vliet (fingerpoppinsoul.amsterdam ) & he is the picture sleeve meister There is no German 45 release Cheers Paul 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Hi Paul, many thanks for the info. It would confirm my theory that they just printed a germany sleeve for the french 45. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 May we see the german picture sleeve ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Tlscapital Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) OK, strange thing is that German 45 Vogue pressings exists. In Belgium and Holland it was a practice to give a "local" picture sleeve but then for some reasons mostly within either each other country pressings or with UK import 45's. Vogue is a French label that got releases in many 'European' countries through the sixties. If ever there was an issue with the German pressing plant they could easily have imported batches of the French 45 to forward the national release. Now what is puzzling some if that was the case is that the German catalog number appears on the sleeve but the French 45 stands uncorrected. Even in our Kingdoms (BE & NL) a sticker was then applied on the label most of the time... Edited December 9, 2020 by Tlscapital Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 I've never seen it before that a non-german 45 was released with a german sleeve. So I was (and am) a bit suspicious that sleeve and record would actually "belong to each other". If you look closely at the sleeve you can see that the french 45 cat no is printed in brackets next to the allocated german cat no. So the more I think about it the more I'm convinced they really issued the french 45 with a german sleeve. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 OK, right. I only looked at the back cover... Yes most likely then. I would guess a pressing plant issue of some sort... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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