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1 hour ago, Andy Rix said:

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There's been a bit of talk around the Norma Jenkins version of 'Try Love'. Thought it might be timely to share this article Keith Hughes wrote 25 years ago with a bit of assistance from myself.
The first Motown office outside Detroit ...

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Great article Andy,ive always loved the sparkels even though its sparce in places.As Robb K once said,i wonder what it would have sounded like if Motown had gone with it and had the velvelettes record it. Chris. 

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Here's a few more songs from the Motown/ Brill Building period-

1) Sammy Turner - "Give It Up Baby" (Kerr / Barnes/ Turner)

2) Serenaders- "Change Of Pace" ( Kerr/ Barnes)

3) Serenaders- "I'll Be Lonely" (Kerr/ Barnes)

4) Serenaders- "Only Mine" (Kerr/ Barnes/ Wilson/ Curry)

5) Serenaders- "Say, Say, Baby" (K/B/W/C)

 

 

 

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Great article. About 10 years ago a dozen or so 10” acetates came into Peoples Records in Detroit that were from the Jobete offices in New York. Unfortunately, all were unplayable...2E02CE22-2E9C-4F46-8A64-E8D33E5F7AFB.thumb.jpeg.923f540a5296e61643a0065aab77b04f.jpeg

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does anybody know if there is there any family connection between Alice Ossman (Miss Ray's sister) and Al Abrams ( aka Stanley Ossman)?

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18 minutes ago, Kenb said:

does anybody know if there is there any family connection between Alice Ossman (Miss Ray's sister) and Al Abrams ( aka Stanley Ossman)?

Stanley was Miss Rays half brother,so if Alice and Ray were full sisters,then yes. Chris. 

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16 minutes ago, Kenb said:

does anybody know if there is there any family connection between Alice Ossman (Miss Ray's sister) and Al Abrams ( aka Stanley Ossman)?

Al Abrams and Stanley 'Mike' Ossman are two different people ... Stanley is Miss Ray's half-brother .. same mother ... he was referred to as Mike and is the MI in Shrine Records Ramitary Publishing . RAy, MIke and SingleTARY .. Eddie Singleton's real surname

Andy

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2 hours ago, Andy Rix said:

Al Abrams and Stanley 'Mike' Ossman are two different people ... Stanley is Miss Ray's half-brother .. same mother ... he was referred to as Mike and is the MI in Shrine Records Ramitary Publishing . RAy, MIke and SingleTARY .. Eddie Singleton's real surname

Andy

thanks for that.

enjoyed the article very much.

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14 hours ago, Nick Soule said:

Great article. About 10 years ago a dozen or so 10” acetates came into Peoples Records in Detroit that were from the Jobete offices in New York. Unfortunately, all were unplayable...2E02CE22-2E9C-4F46-8A64-E8D33E5F7AFB.thumb.jpeg.923f540a5296e61643a0065aab77b04f.jpeg

Interesting ... do you still have all of the acetates ?

Andy

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47 minutes ago, Andy Rix said:

Interesting ... do you still have all of the acetates ?

Andy

Brad Hales might still have a couple, but from what I remember most were given away, which is how I got mine. They were all titles that neither of us recognized, and the one I have isn’t on DFTMC, so presumably unreleased. Unfortunately, I can’t recall the titles of any of the others. 

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From Billboard 19 December 1964 .. clear evidence that the NY Motown office was history

image.png.15c72359c85933a4e52d33c87380c7f6.png  6 April 1963 .. office is due to open

image.png.fcd9fc1894b16b92c7225a7ef38729a3.png18 May 1963 .. confirmation that the NY Motown office is open

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The 1st article is from Cashbox May 11, 1963. The 2nd article from Feb. 8, 1964 mentions a Bobby Valenti 45. Does anyone know if this was part of the Jobete N.Y. ?

 

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I can find nothing about Bobby Valentin at Motown ... the song 'Down Doobee' doesn't appear to be registered at Library of Congress, nor with BMI and isn't in the Jobete catalog ... but some of the NY written songs are missing

Bobby Valentin appears to have disappeared after 62 ... see comments on attached link

https://www.45cat.com/record/nc193863us

Andy

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Fascinating article thanks. You mentioned about any examples from Sidney Barnes' book (Standing on Solid Ground). I've taken photos of 2 pages in the section where he writes about Motown and working at the Brill Building. One referencing Herb Abramson's A1 Studio for cutting demos, and the other talking about getting a release for his group, The Serenaders, of their record 'If Your Heart Says Yes' initially on the Motown label, and then as the first release on the new V.I.P. label.

 

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Fascinating article. Ray talks about this period during an early 90s appearance on the Geraldo USTV talk show special "The Women Of Motown" which is posted on YouTube, worth checking out as Mabel John & Kim Weston also appear.

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1 hour ago, Andy Rix said:

 Good reminder .. I'd totally forgotten about that

Andy

Thanks for posting this Andy,i thought what Mable John had to say about Raynoma was very touching and i do wonder if there had been a Motown as we know it without Raynoma,and secondly as much as the recording artist said they were a big happy family,it was clear to see the rivalry that there had been amongst them. Chris. 

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 Serenaders' Cashbox review from Feb. 15, 1964 issue. The Sammy Turner was a "Best Bet" in the Feb. 29, 1964 issue of Cashbox. 

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My son worked in New York & lived in Hoboken (across the river) for a few years either side of 2000 ....

When visiting him, I'd always wonder into the Brill Building & 1650 Broadway but the door keepers were always quick to let you know you weren't welcome. Also used to drop in @ Colony Music Centre too, managed to pick up some decent (old) sheet music bits there.

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