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So Rod ,  At our school ( Primary ) we have seen a reduction of pupils attending , against what we had during the first lock down. 20 / 30 out of a roll call of nearly 1,000 .. so parents ch

I really feel for those of us who are stuck at home not being able to at least get out to work.  I find not being able to do anything going out wise each weekend odd enough, but I am lucky to have my

Nina and I had our first (Astra Zenica) jabs on Wednesday evening. I've been fine, whereas Nina had to go to bed at 4.00pm the next day not feeling very well.  She was also freezing cold.  I got home

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In the end, we decided to collect my 80 year old Dad in law from Tier 4 Bracknell to bring him in to our Tier 2 Wellingborough for a few days over Christmas.  We did agonise over this, but came to the conclusion that he was vunerable as he was clearly stressed.  Turns out that his heating had broken down as well, so that was the final thing that made us think we were doing the right thing.

I opened a letter from the police this morning.  A speeding fine for doing 35 miles an hour in a 30 mile an hour limit on the way to collecting him :facepalm:

Looks like our two kids are gonna be home a while longer than expected.  I'm all for the Schools being closed as long as they need to be for the safety of all - The on-line Schooling seems to be working fine. Not ideal of course, but 'it is what it is' as they say.

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Still waiting for my parents who are both in their 80s to be vaccinated, will be a great relief when they are. Also waiting for the mrs to be done can't understand why the nhs staff weren't done first, staff in her department are going off with covid its madness not to vaccinate these people. 

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As we're all suffering from the effects of the pandemic. I thought I'd aptly re-title "Landslide" to "Lockdown" with the below lyrics. Hope you light-heartedly approve.

Misery is surrounding me

Because of Lockdown

Refraining from everything  I like to do

Because of Lockdown

 

I’ll get smothered in sadness if these measures fail

Baby, please save me from these restrictions again

In this Lockdown ( No, no)

 

Happiness quit me and hurt has hit me

Because of Lockdown

Got no shelter and no place to hide

From this Lockdown

 

I’ll get smothered in sadness if these measures fail

Baby, please, please save me from these restrictions again

In this Lockdown (Oh, no, no, no, no)

 

Misery is surrounding me

Because of Lockdown

Refraining from ………

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Been 33 years since i emigrated to the ''lucky country'' Australia . We were fortunate with Covid so far ! Due to the go hard & go fast ,  locking down are  Airports combined with the strict contract tracing & following the science. The measures were very Dracionian & are International airports not expected to open till July 2021 at the earliest . We have 37000 plus Ex-pats stuck in many counties ( no country is perfect) & Scott Morrison should hold is head in shame over this anomaly  ! We had a soul night in Brisbane with a maximum of 100 people on dance floors busy all night! 

We all waiting with baited breath that the  vaccine ends the UK   ''nightmare year'' on a high ! The Australian government do not expect to approve a Vaccine till March 2021 at the earliest and because we have no community transmission there is no need !

Good luck to you all

best John

 

 

In Brisbane Qld we just had are first case of Covid ( UK strain ) so we have gone in to a 3 day lock down . So for all  off you '' you not on your own '' in dealing with this fker .  Stay safe best  John Warren 

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What is the point of a 3 day lockdown ?

 

not trying to be rude in insensitive I just can’t see how it would work.

 
 
 
 

 

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Covid-19 - Personal Topic - 2021

A new topic set up to offer all members a place for personal discussion on covid-19 matters

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just a check in on this

still playing it a week at a time here

keeping us sane at least

hows it going for you?

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I am afraid to say this now seems the normal so it is going ok for me , and hopefully we will get jabbed out of this normal in a few months time .

I just hope this is the final furlong though because if not I fear for everyone's mental, financial and physical well-being.

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I know three people on the music scenes here in the Netherlands, including my fellow Northern Soul Amsterdam promoter, who have had Covid and then succumbed to long Covid. Ages of the people range from about 40 to 65. 

In the case of my co-promoter friend, he's had long Covid for something like 10 months. The others have been hit incredibly hard by the coronavirus and long Covid to the degree that it's been debilitating. 

As you might have seen on the news, the Netherlands started curfew on Saturday. Face masks in shops - those that are allowed to open - has been mandatory for some weeks. Roll-out of the vaccinations is really rather slow and you can't help but feel that there is no end in sight. I know that's not the case, but it really does seem as if we're never going to return to normality!

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Every day is the same  for me at the moment,  not working,  Lou not working,  fortunately for me I'm a outward looking person who can find a positive and funny side to life. Its got me through some dark times and will get me through this.  BVAN has really helped with not having a nighter to physically attend which for me is one of the worst things. 

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I really feel for those of us who are stuck at home not being able to at least get out to work.  I find not being able to do anything going out wise each weekend odd enough, but I am lucky to have my family as company in the home.

I'm actually really busy at work because I took advantage of the Government backed loan, so have bought a new MEZZ Floor for my workshop, and am having a really good sort out.  We also have a bit of work, so that's another worry I don't presently have, unlike other people.

I sometimes pop home at lunch time, and there's a completely different atmosphere there to weekends.  Nina's at the kitchen table on her laptop working from home, and the kids (Bailey & Tabitha) are stuck on their laptops doing School work in separate rooms.

Seeing everyone again is going to be so special.

Good luck to all with whatever situation this virus has put you in.

Len :thumbsup:

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I’m with you Len , I think I would be pulling what hair I have left out , if I where at home all the time .

But feel I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place if I’m honest .

Just got back from two hospital appointments at the Royal Brompton specialist Lung unit where I had another CT scan and a Lung function test. All because my last scan a month ago threw up post COVID lung changes .

Back in school full time,  with only 20 / 30 keyworker kids in , so it’s not that bad , but we have still had to shut down two bubbles , with kids testing positive and two staff members that also tested positive . One of which came to bloody work while her husband was at home with a positive test . You couldn't make it up. 

At least we now have Rapid Flow tests for staff to take as from next week. These are 70% effective, and all staff that are on the rota to work for that 2 week block, have to take two tests a week. One on a Sunday night and one on a Wednesday . If you test positive then you isolate and take a full COVID test as soon as you can. 

So much stuff going to the back of my throat and up my nose , reminds me of the good old days . 

Cant wait to retire , but to what , that’s the funny thing. Looks like this year may well be a right off as well .

Keep safe and well everyone 

Steve 🙏

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You don't think this mental stress/illness is getting overblown or even weaponised by those opposed to lockdown.

I mean I'm a bit miffed my social life has taken a hit but I have the TV, radio, phone, newspaper puzzles/crossword, internet and my records so it's not like I have nothing to occupy my mind.

We used to hear about kids cooped up in their rooms playing games and interacting with mates on their phones which was then blamed for everything from obesity to a loss of social graces. 

I can understand the very elderly living alone or those with existing mental health issues having a hard time adapting to the new norm. And I'm sure all those having to go into work and/or using public transport are worried about working conditions, job security and finances but a lot of that is nothing new if you're around the minimum wage bracket.

As for your teacher, get rid. Not got the brains she was born with. 

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No mate , I don’t think it’s getting overblown , but like everything ... it’s a balance and a very hard one to make . It was a TA not a teacher , but your right , they all should know better.

This Government has just plain and simply got it wrong from the start , but I think there’s another thread for that so won’t go off on one here .

100,000 + deaths and 25,000 since beginning of January , that’s scary. Over 1600 today, and this is going to grow still.

Interesting watch on BBC 2 tonight at 9pm - 54 Days : China and the Pandemic which is part 1 of 2 . Read the write up for this on the tube going into London today , and still people not wearing masks.When I challenged two of the people about it , one looked the other way and then moved , the other stated off with “ what’s it got to do with you “ .. 

Nowadays you have to watch what you say to people , because of the possible ramifications , but I can’t help it . 

Keep safe 

 

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You had much of a reduction in children at your school, Steve ?  I get the impression that maybe it's thought too many still attending under key worker criteria.

My granddaughter [8] seems fine though she is attending school. She caught the virus at school on 19 December.

She said to me the other day "how come I caught it off "whoever" when Joe was sitting behind him"

Made me think whether the school is taking enough care in ensuring social distancing though I realise bloody impossible with kids that age.

She also said to me out of the blue " Joe Biden will make a better President than Donald Trump" I was taken aback to put it mildly. She said they'd been watching "Newsround" or something at school. 

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You don't think this mental stress/illness is getting overblown or even weaponised by those opposed to lockdown.

I mean I'm a bit miffed my social life has taken a hit but I have the TV, radio, phone, newspaper puzzles/crossword, internet and my records so it's not like I have nothing to occupy my mind.

We used to hear about kids cooped up in their rooms playing games and interacting with mates on their phones which was then blamed for everything from obesity to a loss of social graces. 

I can understand the very elderly living alone or those with existing mental health issues having a hard time adapting to the new norm. And I'm sure all those having to go into work and/or using public transport are worried about working conditions, job security and finances but a lot of that is nothing new if you're around the minimum wage bracket.

As for your teacher, get rid. Not got the brains she was born with. 

Hi Rod,

There was a war veteran in his 90's on Radio 2 the other day, and he said......"Of course the war was dangerous, but people still got on with their lives.  They could hug each other, and have romances.  This is different".....

Obviously this situation is not worse than war (far from it) But he (with first hand war experience) acknowledged that this is difficult.

Yes, we are lucky to have all the 'gizmos' to occupy us, but I feel an atmoshere of everyone being fed up.  The media hasn't helped with this, they are the ones who are making it even worse than it is for everyone.  For example, going on and on and on about Dominic Cummins, then blaming his actions on others also breaking the rules - People who may have thought...."Well if Dominic can I can"......only thought so because the media kept harping on about it (A bit of coverage fine, but to that extent it becomes ridiculous)

Personally I am worried / sometimes a bit down about my fellow humans, but am determined to stay as positive as I can.  Counting my blessings yes, but who wants to be 'alright Jack' whist people all around are not? 

Len :thumbsup:

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You had much of a reduction in children at your school, Steve ?  I get the impression that maybe it's thought too many still attending under key worker criteria.

My granddaughter [8] seems fine though she is attending school. She caught the virus at school on 19 December.

She said to me the other day "how come I caught it off "whoever" when Joe was sitting behind him"

Made me think whether the school is taking enough care in ensuring social distancing though I realise bloody impossible with kids that age.

 

So Rod , 

At our school ( Primary ) we have seen a reduction of pupils attending , against what we had during the first lock down.

20 / 30 out of a roll call of nearly 1,000 .. so parents choosing not to send their kids to school - we have a list of nearly 50 / 60 keyworkers / vulnerable pupils . It’s the vulnerable ones that are at home that I feel for. Difficult for the LA or school to check on.

As for socially distancing Primary kids , you can’t . It doesn’t work at all . Even with the notices / signs / posters , you tell them and 5 seconds later they’ve forgotten and they are together with someone and the same or worse at play.  We just have to keep them in their bubbles during each school day.

We have them in class’s of 5/6 max .. with two TA’s to a class , no teachers in at all.They are all doing on line home learning. 

Its a difficult environment to be honest and when you hear Williamson and Johnson saying schools are COVID safe , it’s a load of bollocks . Williamson hadn’t got a bloody clue . 

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Do not think the government have got much right during covid but I personally cannot  fault them on the vaccine roll out,  phone call today at 12.30pm asking  me if I would like the jab I said yes , and booked to have it today at 5pm. 👍

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Do not think the government have got much right during covid but I personally cannot  fault them on the vaccine roll out,  phone call today at 12.30pm asking  me if I would like the jab I said yes , and booked to have it today at 5pm. 👍

Nice one mate.  Good luck 👍 

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Nice one mate.  Good luck 👍 

All done less than 5 minutes including been booked in , very efficient and a credit to our NHS. 

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All done less than 5 minutes including been booked in , very efficient and a credit to our NHS. 

Not a lot has gone right with this pandemic, the vaccine rollout has. Well done to all involved. 

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Have to agree will all the above , this is the only thing this Government have got right .

How many billions of pounds spent on Track and Trace and to what end ... no worth a light .

Fingers crossed that this vaccine roll out will start to have an effect very soon .. I’m sure it will .  

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56077372 

The UK government seems to be possibly linking opening of venues to use of lateral flow testing at some point in future. The theory being you have to get a negative test at the venue before you are allowed in I guess.

That seems a long way off and doesn't seem like we should expect any Soul venues operating in 2021 to me.  At present the PM is only speculating, there are no specific plans or measures around introducing lateral flow testing into events (and aren't these test only partially  accurate anyway).  I have to check Covid19 government announcements at gov.uk continually - and there are not even any thought papers on it yet.  We will all watch with interest how this progresses from here.

Then there is the availability of these tests, training and whether Soul events will want to bother or just stop.

The vaccine will take priority and then we'll be into Autumn again and the caution of winter.  Although we will likely have the progressive careful relaxation of measures from March onwards in UK, indoor drinking looks still to be a little way off and anything involving dancing, further off still.

I welcome the positive momentum to ending lockdown soon but am not holding much hope of Soul events during 2021.

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Bit more at the bottom of the article:

"Mr Kill said allowing revellers to perform tests the day before or under the supervision of a professional over a video call could make the process less onerous.

Nevertheless, he welcomed Mr Johnson's announcement.

"Finally we have some acknowledgement from the prime minister and government on the existence of late-night economy businesses, including nightclubs, theatres, casinos and late bars, particularly as they are some of the hardest hit since the start of the pandemic," he said."

 

So you'd have to show up with evidence of a negative test taken before.  This idea that there are professionals waiting to take a video call seems daft!  It's possible for a one off festival to for everyone to prepare and turn up with a negative test taken the day before - but for general going out, I cannot see this working and I just wouldn't bother.

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Start-up company You Check will be collaborating with the Music Venue Trust and already have Government approval to introduce 'health passports' to music venues, writes Joel Munoz in Far Out magazine.

Yes it involves testing, which currently means "you're good to go to a show for 48 hours."

The 100 Club and Bristol's 'The Exchange' seem to be first in line for testing this for live music events, though at a reduced 25% capacity. If successful it will be rolled out to other venues and capacity will be increased.

Light at the end of the tunnel for me. I'm vaccinated and really need a night out!

- Kev

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It is start-up You Check's own health passport proposal not a government one.

https://www.eventindustrynews.com/news/venues-set-to-trial-you-check-health-passport#

It's just a start up saying 'let us show you something' to the government.  I see this all the time in my sector and participate in some government showcase technology trials.

Even if adopted it means a test every week or possibly more. I'm not sure how long interest in that will last. 

I'm not cynical, I want to get things back. Boris's words yesterday were the first on this and far more cautious.

Let's all hope for progress and watch how this evolves.

We could easily end up with 'Vaccinated only' situations in future....Oldies Nights might mean something else entirely.

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"already have Government approval to introduce 'health passports' to music venues" - this is bollocks.

Not really. Those are my words relaying what I read. If you want to find and criticise the original article go ahead.

-Kev

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I didn't mean that you were saying this yourself - apologies.  I soon calmed down and edited my reply afterwards to clarify properly. 

I was saying that they do not 'have approval to introduce health passports to music venues' as Far Out magazine asserted.  It is that assertion that is overreaching against the facts.

They are doing a limited showcase trial of their own commercial solution (not government adopted technology or with wider government mandate) at two venues.  

It's really important to be clear on this as people could read the articles and infer more than this actually is.

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Meanwhile, here in the Netherlands the high court in The Hague has overturned the legitimacy of the 21:00-04:30 curfew that came into effect on 23rd January. Thus the curfew is cancelled with immediate effect.

At the same time, given that the curfew has been judged to have been introduced without proper legitimacy, there is much speculation that the 1000s of fines handed out to people for curfew infringement will have to be  annulled.

The caretaker Dutch government is asking for the immediate termination of the curfew to be postponed so an appeal can be heard, and prime minister Mark Rutte is asking people to maintain the curfew regardless of the legal situation.

Some chance!

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I didn't mean that you were saying this yourself - apologies.  I edited my reply afterwards to clarify properly.  I was saying that they do not 'have approval to introduce health passports to music venues' as Far Out magazine asserted.  It is that assertion that is fundamentally wrong or overreaching against the facts.

They are doing a limited showcase trial of their own commercial solution (not government adopted technology or with wider government mandate) at two venues.  

It's really important to be clear on this as people could read the articles and infer more than this actually is.

No problem, I'm a bit touchy after this year of virtual house arrest!  

I was hoping that what I'd inferred from the article was correct.  Always willing to listen to unbiased and  considered views of knowledgeable people on here. Thanks for making things a little clearer.

- KeV.

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KeV - I think we're all in the same situation and I feel the same as you describe.

 

The government wants the nighttime industry to stay around until they have answers while not doing any formal sector 'bailout' (I'm in energy and there's no cover at all by government for customer bills, the  growth in debt of customers not paying is left with the energy companies right now).

So it's trying to show positive signs and hope for the future - but these lateral flow tests aren't accurate enough as the BBC article said and introduce their own risk if we rely on them.  In the background nightclub venue owners have been selling out and a lot of consolidation going on  (different to our Soul interests I know).

You mentioned vaccination and that seems to be the key - keep pushing that on and staying on with it each year.  The issue then is that implies vaccination passports and the young will be at the back of the priorities for vaccine.

Anyway, I'll leave the subject there and like everyone watch with interest. 

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A new 5 minute test is being looked into to enable the hospitality sector to open. Developed by a Yorkshire firm its supposed to be more accurate and gives a result in 5 minutes that would allow stadiums, nightclubs and hopefully soul venues to open. Lets hope its approved. 

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Bit of a light hearted look but Lou had her first covid jab ( Oxford astra/zenica  ) yesterday and I can say that she suffered no side effects whatsoever,  not even a sore arm so I suggested that because her vaccination centre was in the Cheetham Hill district of Manchester that it was actually a snide vaccine 

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Regarding the oxford jab, both me and the wife had no side effects what so ever. My mum and dad had the Pfizer jab and also had no effects.  No brainer get the jab when offered and lets get back to normal. 

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Regarding the oxford jab, both me and the wife had no side effects what so ever. My mum and dad had the Pfizer jab and also had no effects.  No brainer get the jab when offered and lets get back to normal. 

Definitely agree mate. I had the Oxford one with no side effects whatsoever.  Friends though have had different experiences.  From mild headache through to vomiting,  high temperatures and everything in-between.  Still would go back for the 2nd jab regardless of first reaction and the mates who where ill say exactly the same.  Bring on normality whatever that means.  

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Definitely agree mate. I had the Oxford one with no side effects whatsoever.  Friends though have had different experiences.  From mild headache through to vomiting,  high temperatures and everything in-between.  Still would go back for the 2nd jab regardless of first reaction and the mates who where ill say exactly the same.  Bring on normality whatever that means.  

Yes steve ive friends who have had slight problems but all are looking forward to jab num 2.

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Nina and I had our first (Astra Zenica) jabs on Wednesday evening. I've been fine, whereas Nina had to go to bed at 4.00pm the next day not feeling very well.  She was also freezing cold.  I got home from work to find that my 12 year old daughter (Tabitha) had piled up every duvet and pillow in the house on top of her to keep her warm - The covers were almost touching the ceiling! (Bless her) 

I had to have a takeaway for dinner that night - I thought that was the least I could do :D

Nina's fine now, and we're both still looking forward to our second jabs.

Len :thumbsup:

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I had side effects from my first Astra Zeneca jab and Pam had none whatsoever.  I just felt absolutely drained and lethargic and spent a day and half in bed. That's the perfect situation really for when we get our second doses which we're both looking forward to.  Side effects or not I'm gonna make out there is. A lazy day in bed watching TV with Pam well enough to run up and down stairs with tea and biscuits.....Perfect!!

- Kev

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I had side effects from my first Astra Zeneca jab and Pam had none whatsoever.  I just felt absolutely drained and lethargic and spent a day and half in bed. That's the perfect situation really for when we get our second doses which we're both looking forward to.  Side effects or not I'm gonna make out there is. A lazy day in bed watching TV with Pam well enough to run up and down stairs with tea and biscuits.....Perfect!!

- Kev

I'm not sure how the second dose will effect people as the immune system will already have kicked in after the first dose, so i would assume less chance of side effects.  Would be intrested if anybody can say for sure.?

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I'm not sure how the second dose will effect people as the immune system will already have kicked in after the first dose, so i would assume less chance of side effects.  Would be intrested if anybody can say for sure.?

I've heard the second one can effect some people who were not effected by the first.

Enjoy ya second dose of tea 'n' biscuits Kev (Regardless) He he :wink:

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I've heard the second one can effect some people who were not effected by the first.

Enjoy ya second dose of tea 'n' biscuits Kev (Regardless) He he :wink:

Len :thumbsup:

Looked it up and as ever a mixed bag of explanations 🙃 younger people will probably experience more side effects due to a more robust immune system kicking in. Second doses look like a pot luck scenario like the first one. Clear as mud then.😉

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I had my first jab about a month ago and had side effects, same as others, chills, couldn't get warm lethargic the following day, heard from a few mates who had the same. My son had his, didn't know why he got the appointment other than possibly having epilepsy when he was younger, phoned me to say he was fine until later that night the same chills and lethargy. Ready and waiting for the second jab, if I get a reaction again better that than full blown covid.

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Had my jab yesterday, no side affects at all apart from a little tired although I didn't sleep well Friday night and not had much sleep last night, BVAN and clocks going forward.  I did keep busy, moved the arm a lot, walked, had a run, feel fine.  Had the Oxford/Astra vaccine btw.

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I had the Pfizer jab 8 weeks today only a sore arm for a couple of days and that was nothing , bring on the second one sooner the better.

The roll out in my neck of the woods must be going great my daughter and son in law have had their first jab and both are in their mid forties and no health conditions.

 

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11 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

I had the Pfizer jab 8 weeks today only a sore arm for a couple of days and that was nothing , bring on the second one sooner the better.

The roll out in my neck of the woods must be going great my daughter and son in law have had their first jab and both are in their mid forties and no health conditions.

 

Yes dont get this nobody under 50 until may talk, the hospital my wife works at is now doing 45-49 year olds. Brother in law went yesterday and hes 48.

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