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Right, what do you think was the best discovery of 2004, either an unreleased track or a brand new sound........

For me it was the Anita Robbins "I Can Stand A Little Bit More" Grapevine discovery. :P

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For me it has the be The Tiaras c/up 'Suprise' as played by Andy Dyson and Butch. Just a bloody great sound which has kept me awake on many a night wondering about its true identity!

Its fantastic that tunes of this calibre are being discovered and played after all these years and keeps me interested in the collecting side of the scene.

cheers

Paul

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For me it has the be The Tiaras c/up 'Suprise' as played by Andy Dyson and Butch. Just a bloody great sound  which has kept me awake on many a night wondering about its true identity!

Its fantastic that tunes of this calibre are being discovered and played after all these years and keeps me interested in the collecting side of the scene.

cheers

Paul

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I can remember Andy first getting the Rita & Tiaras cover up, blew me away, one of the best discoveries I've heard IMO. Think you will have many a sleepless night though trying to guess it's identity.

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I am not sure if my choice was first played this year but it is new to me.

Currently being played by Mick H.

Stormy Winters 'Lifesaver'

:P:P:(

Shane

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I am not sure if my choice was first played this year but it is new to me.

Currently being played by Mick H.

Stormy Winters 'Lifesaver'

:P   :(   :(

Shane

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:(:D:P

Great choice Shane! I gotta have one. What's it on, BTW, i't slipped my mind, but I seem to remember its one of the majors??

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:P   :P   :(

Great choice Shane! I gotta have one. What's it on, BTW, i't slipped my mind, but I seem to remember its one of the majors??

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only 3 or 4 known copies i think. usual suspects - butch, tim brown if i am right. not sure of the label. chalky will know???

Shane

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only 3 or 4 known copies i think. usual suspects - butch, tim brown if i am right. not sure of the label. chalky will know???

Shane

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Bloody typical! :P

Anyone out there got a soundfile???

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only 3 or 4 known copies i think. usual suspects - butch, tim brown if i am right. not sure of the label. chalky will know???

Shane

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It's spelt Wynters :P:( It's on Mercury, white demos only as far as I'm aware, half a dozen copies maybe. Sorry can't help you with the soundfile :P

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It's spelt Wynters  :wicked:   :D It's on Mercury, white demos only as far as I'm aware, half a dozen copies maybe.  Sorry can't help you with the soundfile  :wicked:

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I picked up an issue about 8 years ago. The issue has Life saver c/w Foolish Dreamer on the B side. I played it out a couple of times without much reaction at the time.

Can post a scan or sound file if someone tells me how......lol!!

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Hopefully this works for the scan, I'll need help to put a sound file up!!



ta for scan
if posting sound file best bet is to hit the link below
and use the simple form
hit this
should take mp3, wma, mov, rm, and swf files

cheers
mike

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The Richie Corbin Trio featuring Barbara Trent "A Woman Is Made For A Man" is the best discovery of this year for me.

Propa stomping soul. Shame no "northern soul" DJs have got it though, because I think it would go down a treat. :wicked:

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That Tiaras cover up is absolutey terrible, don't know what it sounds like loud but on your stereo it's rubbish.

The best discovery of the year was OBVIOUSLY Shirley Matthews - Stop the clock :wicked:

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I personally think the "Surprise" tune is a bit too poppy and girlie for me (though it will no doubt appeal to large portions of the scene), "Lifesaver" is better but not really me either. None of them are new for 2004 though, Andy played "Surprise" when he was over here in December 2002, and "Lifesaver" was played at least in 2003, possibly earlier, so none of them count as new for 2004 regardless of what you think of them as tunes. The J.J. Jackson CU might not be new for 2004 either, but slightly newer than the others perhaps (Chalky?), and a much better tune IMO, great traditional pounding northern soul.

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I personally think the "Surprise" tune is a bit too poppy and girlie for me (though it will no doubt appeal to large portions of the scene), "Lifesaver" is better but not really me either. None of them are new for 2004 though, Andy played "Surprise" when he was over here in December 2002, and "Lifesaver" was played at least in 2003, possibly earlier, so none of them count as new for 2004 regardless of what you think of them as tunes. The J.J. Jackson CU might not be new for 2004 either, but slightly newer than the others perhaps (Chalky?), and a much better tune IMO, great traditional pounding northern soul.

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Agree with all your comments about how new the above are for some. Think I was the second to hear "Surprise" September/October 2002. Lifesaver Butch was playing this early/mid 2002 as well, certainly spun at Cleggy that year although it has been known to some collectors many years.

JJ Jackson awesome and in my top 5 along with the Jerry Williams cover up but both been played by Butch for years although neither really taking of or getting the credit they deserve until this year.

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I can remember Andy first getting the Rita & Tiaras cover up, blew me away, one of the best discoveries I've heard IMO.  Think you will have many a sleepless night though trying to guess it's identity.

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Heard an excellent track last night played by Carl Willingham.

Good Baby - Survivors

Carl said he thinks its the only copy, was it discovered this year. Anybody got any info on it?

Winnie:-)

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Heard an excellent track last night played by Carl Willingham.

Good Baby - Survivors

Carl said he thinks its the only copy, was it discovered this year. Anybody got any info on it?

Winnie:-)

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It's on Valli.

Could have had a copy off ebay earlier this year, a guy advertised it as a 'Vondells sound alike' but put no sound clip up. Knowing what Yanks are like for 'killer monster rare northern soul rarities' etc I thought it would be a pile of crap, and left it! Think it went for about $200. Probably the one Carl got! :wicked:

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It's on Valli.

Could have had a copy off ebay earlier this year, a guy advertised it as a 'Vondells sound alike' but put no sound clip up. Knowing what Yanks are like for 'killer monster rare northern soul rarities' etc I thought it would be a pile of crap, and left it! Think it went for about $200. Probably the one Carl got!  :wicked:

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It's on Valli.

Could have had a copy off ebay earlier this year, a guy advertised it as a 'Vondells sound alike' but put no sound clip up. Knowing what Yanks are like for 'killer monster rare northern soul rarities' etc I thought it would be a pile of crap, and left it! Think it went for about $200. Probably the one Carl got!  :wicked:

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yeah that's the copy I got. as far as I know no others have surfaced as yet. been playing it about 6/7 months reacation has been great. Survivors are Vietnam Vets who joined together after surviving [hence tha name] the war and cut one 45. the lead singer and producer have been tracked down and were amazed any copies survived. lead singer was injured in Vietnam and is confined to a wheel chair. cheers, carl

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Hey-what's going on here? I looked at the scan for the Stormie Wynters 45 and the catalog number reads "72505". I googled "Mercury 72505" and got this:

http://home.unet.nl/kesteloo/sapians.html

I also noticed that the scan has the catalog number sort of "shoved" together. They're not evenly-kerned (spaced) numbers.

Is this suggesting that two records were pressed under the same catalog number? :wicked:

Curious about this...

KTF

Jas

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Hey-what's going on here? I looked at the scan for the Stormie Wynters 45 and the catalog number reads "72505". I googled "Mercury 72505" and got this:

http://home.unet.nl/kesteloo/sapians.html

I also noticed that the scan has the catalog number sort of "shoved" together. They're not evenly-kerned (spaced) numbers.

Is this suggesting that two records were pressed under the same catalog number? :wicked:

Curious about this...

KTF

Jas

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Don't know about the catalogue number being the same as The Sapians but the closeness of the numbers on the scan is due to there being a slight bubble under the label where the ridge is. On the Foolish Dreamer side they are evenly spaced.

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Thanks for the info on the Stormie Wynters 45. I guess seeing an actual scan of the Sapians record would tell the tale. Interesting story about that group anyway.

Looking forward to the Stormie soundfile!

KTF

Jas

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Butch's Masqueraders cover-up is a blinding record. Assume that was new in 2004. The record which gave me most pleasure to finally hear played out loud in a few venues was Jerry Washington's "Don't Waste My Time" on Glades. A brilliant, raw, funky record with tons of soul and crucially, that magical allnighter feel.

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Butch's Masqueraders cover-up is a blinding record. Assume that was new in 2004. The record which gave me most pleasure to finally hear played out loud in a few venues was Jerry Washington's "Don't Waste My Time" on Glades. A brilliant, raw, funky record with tons of soul and crucially, that magical allnighter feel.

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Masqueraders c/u is awesome :D although I think he played it last year, not 100% mind :wicked: He played his Sherry Taylor cover up and another at the same time, last November I think, thinking it's the Masqueraders but could be wrong. Sherry Taylor "It's Beautiful" his best recent discovery for me, superb.

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So there are two copies of the survivors being played out then, Carl and Chalky, anyone else?? boy this record talk is confusing.

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still got no idea what it sounds like though :D

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stillnot sure what my fave record discovery from 2004 is though, im to useless at paying attention to stuff when I am out :D

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mmm.. astounded the " lifesaver " got issued my copy and the other handfull are on pink same side promo's .was told the lead singer was gene redd's daughter or family member was a member of the girl group and cut it as a promo never to get issued ( don't think it's in the label listing ) but hey there's the scan ! i remember browny buying it from clifford around 10 years ago for £40 we thought it was a bit weak at the time ,but mother time has changed things - be interested to hear the flip side.

with regards the rita+tiaras c/up this would have been a winner in any era of the northern scene,it's got the lot black girl group ,custom made backing ,sax break and a perfect xover flip - mind you the knob head who taped the set probably couldn't fit it on the tape .

well pete you obviously ain't got a clue what makes a great northern tune....

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Love the record..........but getting Tim to play it is difficult.

His girl-friend doesn't like it.

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I find that hard to believe.

Tim's got a girlfriend?? :shades::D:wicked:

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well pete you obviously ain't got a clue what makes a great northern tune....

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Yeah thats me. Don't know f*** all and never have.

Reason I didn't like it, it's too poppy and it goes on and on without doing anything. Wouldn't have even been taken out of it's sleeve 30 years ago.

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mmm.. astounded the " lifesaver " got issued my copy and the other handfull are on pink same side promo's .was told the lead singer was gene redd's daughter or family member was a member of the girl group and cut it as a promo never to get issued ( don't think it's in the label listing ) but hey there's the scan

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Andy, can you manage to get a soundfile up? (Just a portion of it would do), as

Jo can't remember how it goes, and my singing of it is driving her mad!

Cheers

Trev

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mmm.. astounded the " lifesaver " got issued my copy and the other handfull are on pink same side promo's .was told the lead singer was gene redd's daughter or family member was a member of the girl group and cut it as a promo never to get issued ( don't think it's in the label listing ) but hey there's the scan ! i remember browny buying it from clifford around 10 years ago for £40 we thought it was a bit weak at the time ,but mother time has changed things - be interested to hear the flip side.

Andy

Not sure when I'll see you as I don't think I'll make Sheridans. If I don't see you before I'll bring it to the next Union. Foolish Dreamer is slow to mid tempo, not a dancer!!

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The best discovery of 2004 for me has to be the Pete Smith discovery of 'Stop the Clock'. This is a majestic record. Every bit of it is simply luscious. Wish there were more records like this around.

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'Stop the Clock' is a unique sound that is instantly recognisable - unlike so many mediocre sounds that are really interchangeble. I can honestly say that

Stop the Clock gives me a buzz. I would have liked to have heard it back in the days when I 'buzzed' a bit more than I do now. But if it had been played then it would not be fresh now.And fresh it certainly is. I bet Dave Godin would have loved this. Shirley certainly knows the meaning of performance.

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i have just remebered an awesome sound of 2004.

The Condors ' let me down easy'

I think I may have let the cat out of the bag here because the only DJ's I have heard play this out is Ginger and my mate (on soul source - not sure if he wants is identity revealed. he may read this and own up to having one?)

I also think that Ginger is still covering it up and I have revealed the title and artist. He is not very tall but quite stocky so I better be careful! :no:

Fantastic record!! :yes:

Shane

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Not strictly Northern but the sounds of the year for me would have to be

Night Chill - Hop skip and a jump

For Real Inc - The Man (Masterplan)

Earth Child - It's our day

and from Ali

Ed Simpson - Pinch Hitter

Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - How long............

Kenny Thomas - Him

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i have just remebered an awesome sound of 2004.

The Condors ' let me down easy'

I think I may have let the cat out of the bag here because the only DJ's I have heard play this out is Ginger and my mate (on soul source - not sure if he wants is identity revealed. he may read this and own up to having one?)

I also think that Ginger is still covering it up and I have revealed the title and artist. He is not very tall but quite stocky so I better be careful! :no:

Fantastic record!! :yes:

Great Record the Condors on Sheldon test pressing, think this was played by Shifty a couple of years ago before 2004.

Ian

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Fantastic record!! :yes:

Great Record  the Condors on Sheldon test pressing, think this was played by Shifty a couple of years ago before 2004.

Ian

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Ditto, great track!! As soon as Ginger played this I ran, well briskly walked, to the decks. Just to find it was a one of 2 bloody acetate, typical! Shane you were there that nite young fella me lad. And yes a SS has the other copy :no:

Ginger hasnt got it covered up

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Ditto, great track!! As soon as Ginger played this I ran, well briskly walked, to the decks. Just to find it was a one of 2 bloody acetate, typical! Shane you were there that nite young fella me lad. And yes a SS has the other copy  :D

Ginger hasnt got it covered up

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i remember it well Dave.

Shane

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i have just remebered an awesome sound of 2004.

The Condors ' let me down easy'

I think I may have let the cat out of the bag here because the only DJ's I have heard play this out is Ginger and my mate (on soul source - not sure if he wants is identity revealed. he may read this and own up to having one?)

I also think that Ginger is still covering it up and I have revealed the title and artist. He is not very tall but quite stocky so I better be careful!  :D

Fantastic record!! :D

Shane

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One of those that if it were common would it get played? Very ordiinary IMHO.

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