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Thios is a spin-off from the frank Wilson topic... I'm just curious of what the real rare records are?? I'll start off with a few I know, maybe you folks can elaborate :ohmy:

The Inspirations on Breakthrough - 1 copy to my knowlege

The CODs on Kellmac (She's fire) - 1 copy

Blue Sharks "These things will keep me loving you" - Only 1 copy known in the past 20 years, one turned up on eBay a while back, whether or not it was the same one I don't know.

Frank Beverly on Rouser - 2 copies

Milton James "My lonely feeling" - 2 copies

Kell Osborne "Law agains a heartbreaker" - 2 copies

Mello Souls - 3 copies

Richard Lackey "Love shopping" - 3 according to Manship

Don Gardner "Cheating kind" - 3 copies

+ other super-rare stuff, sure there are only a handful of stuff like William Powell, Inticers, Eric mercury, JD Bryant, Don Gardner, etc. etc., and I'm sure the list goes on and on, but I'm going to stop now.

Can anyone help populate the list? :sleep3:

Billy :sleep3:

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Thios is a spin-off from the frank Wilson topic... I'm just curious of what the real rare records are?? I'll start off with a few I know, maybe you folks can elaborate :ohmy:

The Inspirations on Breakthrough - 1 copy to my knowlege

The CODs on Kellmac (She's fire) - 1 copy

Blue Sharks "These things will keep me loving you" - Only 1 copy known in the past 20 years, one turned up on eBay a while back, whether or not it was the same one I don't know.

Frank Beverly on Rouser - 2 copies

Milton James "My lonely feeling" - 2 copies

Kell Osborne "Law agains a heartbreaker" - 2 copies

Mello Souls - 3 copies

Richard Lackey "Love shopping" - 3 according to Manship

Don Gardner "Cheating kind" - 3 copies

+ other super-rare stuff, sure there are only a handful of stuff like William Powell, Inticers, Eric mercury, JD Bryant, Don Gardner, etc. etc., and I'm sure the list goes on and on, but I'm going to stop now.

Can anyone help populate the list? :sleep3:

Billy :sleep3:

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Think you will find there are more than 3 copies of "Cheatin' Kind". William Powell only 3(?) known copies.

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Thios is a spin-off from the frank Wilson topic... I'm just curious of what the real rare records are?? I'll start off with a few I know, maybe you folks can elaborate :ohmy:

The Inspirations on Breakthrough - 1 copy to my knowlege

The CODs on Kellmac (She's fire) - 1 copy

Blue Sharks "These things will keep me loving you" - Only 1 copy known in the past 20 years, one turned up on eBay a while back, whether or not it was the same one I don't know.

Frank Beverly on Rouser - 2 copies

Milton James "My lonely feeling" - 2 copies

Kell Osborne "Law agains a heartbreaker" - 2 copies

Mello Souls - 3 copies

Richard Lackey "Love shopping" - 3 according to Manship

Don Gardner "Cheating kind" - 3 copies

+ other super-rare stuff, sure there are only a handful of stuff like William Powell, Inticers, Eric mercury, JD Bryant, Don Gardner, etc. etc., and I'm sure the list goes on and on, but I'm going to stop now.

Can anyone help populate the list? :sleep3:

Billy :sleep3:

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The Inspirations: I know Mick Smith & Kenny have it, plus i've seen another, was it Browny or Ted Massey? Pottsy.

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Thios is a spin-off from the frank Wilson topic... I'm just curious of what the real rare records are?? I'll start off with a few I know, maybe you folks can elaborate :ohmy:

The Inspirations on Breakthrough - 1 copy to my knowlege

The CODs on Kellmac (She's fire) - 1 copy

Blue Sharks "These things will keep me loving you" - Only 1 copy known in the past 20 years, one turned up on eBay a while back, whether or not it was the same one I don't know.

Frank Beverly on Rouser - 2 copies

Milton James "My lonely feeling" - 2 copies

Kell Osborne "Law agains a heartbreaker" - 2 copies

Mello Souls - 3 copies

Richard Lackey "Love shopping" - 3 according to Manship

Don Gardner "Cheating kind" - 3 copies

+ other super-rare stuff, sure there are only a handful of stuff like William Powell, Inticers, Eric mercury, JD Bryant, Don Gardner, etc. etc., and I'm sure the list goes on and on, but I'm going to stop now.

Can anyone help populate the list? :sleep3:

Billy :sleep3:

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Leonard Jewell - Bettin' On Love - Teri De (Pink) - 3 copies, one of them badly cracked.

Fred & The Turbins - Bernadine - Cenco. 3 in u.k, cracked one in Germany.

Billy Hines - Ling Ting Tong - Wa-Tusi. 1/2 copies.

Primers - How Does It Grab You - Hale. 4 copies in U.K.

Pottsy.

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Adey Pierce told me that he remembers John Anderson having

a 25X box of Don Gardner "Cheatin' Kind" in the early 80s. Def.

more than "3 known copies" around.

Cheers,

Christian B

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Adey Pierce told me that he remembers John Anderson having

a 25X box of Don Gardner "Cheatin' Kind" in the early 80s. Def.

more than "3 known copies" around.

Cheers,

Christian B

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I thought this was a nearer 25 count than 3, asked Andy and he said the same. Know of 4 or 5 with mates alone.

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What? Mick sell a record to Tim?? Are you sure Pete.

Come on Mick, i know you're looking in, is this true??  :sleep3:

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He's on his hols but I'm positive he did - long time ago. Micks was Searlings old copy

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Heres a list of your "rarest of the rare". Made by the SoulTalk members some months back & now posted on the Anorak Corner web-site (there Not in order of rarity!).

Now lets try and figure out how many copies of each record there are...

Wheres the yawning smilie gone???? :sleep3:

The Yum Yums - Gonna Be A Big Thing - ABC 10697 (stock copy)

Honey & The Bees - Be Yourself - Academy

The Traditions - On Fire - Artco 102

Eddie Parker - I'm Gone - Awake 502

The HyTones - You Don't Even Know My Name - Bell 627

Bernie Williams - Ever Again - Bell 768 (stock copy)

Jimmy Andrews - Big City Playboy - Blue Jay 5003

Magnetics - Lady In Green - Bonnie 107374

Nolan Chance - Just Like The Weather - Bunky 161

Jimmy Delphs - Dancing A Hole In The World - Carla 1904 (WD)

Fred & Turbines - Bernadine - Cenco 111

Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation - Charay 35

The Soul Incorporated - My Proposal - Coconut Groove 4032

George Pepp - The Feeling Is Real - Coleman 80 (x2 label designs)

The Appointments - I Saw You There - De-Lite 520

The Dynamic Three - You Said Yeah - Del-Val 1004

Milton James - My Lonely Feeling - Dore 767

Little Johnny Hamilton - Keep On Movin' - Dore 760

The Topics - Have Your Fun - Dream 1

The Precisions - Sugar Ain't Sweet - Drew 1002

Larry Clinton - She's Wanted In Three States - Dynamo 300 (stock copy)

Jimmy Burns - I Really Love You - Erica 2

Damon Fox - Packin' Up - Fairmount 1021

The Antellects - Love Slave - Flodavieur 804

The Tranells - Blessed With A Love - Flo-Jo 101

Cody Black - It's Our Time To Fall In Love - G.I.G. 102

Margaret Little - Love Finds A Way - Genebro 230

Al Scott - What Happened To Yesterday - Genuine 150

Mr Soul - What Happened To Yesterday - Genuine 150

Little John - Just Wait And See - Go Gate 2

Primers - How DoesThat Grab You - Hale 101

Kell Osbourne - Law Against A Heartbreaker - Highland 1182

The Moments - Baby I Want You - Hog 1000

Dennis Edwards- Johnny On The Spot - International Soulville 100

Jesse Davis - There's Room For Me - Jaboth 1

Bobby James - I Really Love You - Karol 3727

Tim Carr - Workin' - Kee 001

The C.O.D.s - She's Fire - Kellmac 1010

The Combinations - What You Gonna Do - Kellmac 1011

The Combinations - I Gonna Make You Love Me - Kimtone 1001 (x2 label designs)

Junior McCants - Try Me For Your New Love - King 6106

The Inmates - This Is The Day - Kopit 127

Walter & The Admerations - Man Oh Man - La Cindy 32769

Lynn Terry - I Got A Good Thing Going - La Salle 70

Little Willie Faulk - Look Into My Heart - M&H 2917

Norma Jenkins & The Dolls - The Aeroplane Song - Maltese 107 (WD)

Sandi Golden - You're My Everything - Masterpiece 201

The Mello Souls - We Can Make It - Mello

June Jackson - You're Welcome - Musette 112

The NuRons - All Of My Life - NuRon 101

Billy Wisdom - Handwriting On The Wall - Out A Site 11 (stock/test press)

The Four Dynamics - Things That A Lady Ain't Supposed To Do - Peachtree 129

Terri Goodnight - They Didn`t Know - Phelelectron 701

Ernestine Eady - Let's Talk It Over - Phil La of Soul 302

William Powell - Heartache Souvenirs - Powerhouse 101

The Del Larks - Job Opening - Queen City 2004 (demo)

The New Wanderers - Let Me Render My Service To You - Ready 1001

Jesse Davis - There's Room For Me - Revere 101 (pic cover+WD)

Ty Karim - You Just Don't Know - Romark 113

The Butlers with Frankie Beverley - Because Of My Heart - Rouser 1017

The Magnetics - When I'm With My Baby - Sable 101 (WD)

Lee McKinney - I'll Keep Holding On - Sable 104

Mamie P.Galore - No Right To Cry - Sack 7128

Tina Roberts - One Way Or The Other - Security 1366

Don Gardner - Cheatin' Kind - Sedgrick 3001

Patrinell Staten - Little Love Affair - Sepia 8201

Baby Huey & The Babysitters - Just Being Careful - Shann 73924

J .D.Bryant - I Won't Be Coming Back - Shrine 108

The Counts - Peaches Baby - Shrine 117

The Prophets - If I Had One Gold Piece- Shrine 116

Ted Wilson - I Can't Take No More - Sierra 267

Gene Toones - What More Do You Want - Simco 6664 (stock copy)

Magic-Tones - It's Better To Love - Solid Hit 108

The Young Bros - What's Your Name- Soul Power 21267 (two mixes)

The Hy Tones - You Don't Even Know My Name - Southern Artists 2023

Barbara Acklin - I'm Not Mad Anymore - Special Agent 203

Mr.Lucky - I Was Born To Love You - Stardom

The Deltours - Sweet And Lovely - Starville 1206

Herman Lewis - Who's Kissing You Tonite - Stone Blue 101 (WD)

Billy Woods - Let Me Make You Happy - Sussex 213

Len Jewell - Bettin' On Love - Teri De 004

Jimmy Gresham - This Feeling I Have - Teri De 005

E.Williams - Trade My Soul For The Devil - Tide

Little Stanley - Out Of Sight Loving - Vance 00111

Two Plus Two - Look Around - Velgo 103

The Springers - Nothing's Too Good For My Baby - Wales 428

The Ivorys - Please Stay - Wand 1152

Walter Wilson - Love Keeps Me Crying - Wand 1153

Billy Hines - Ling Ting Tong - Watusi 101

Esther Grant - Let's Make The Most Out Of Love - Wilstone 001

The Classics - So Glad That I Found You - Yan-G 4665

The not quite as rare as the above list!

The Vondells - Hey Girl You've Changed - Airtown Custom 12

Johnny Rogers - Make A Change - Amon 4619

James Wesley Smith - Talkin' 'bout Women - Angel Town 714

Eddy Hughes - Soul Searcher - Bard 1014

Eddie Whitehead - Just Your Fool - Blackjack 711

Buddy Smith - When You Lose The One You Love - Brute 002

The Empires - You're On Top Girl - Candi 1033

The Turbines - We Got To Start Over - Cenco 116

Romona Collins - You've Been Cheating - Clarks 346

Anthony & Delsonics - Everytime - Emerge 1106

The Lovers - Without A Doubt - Frantic 2133 (WD)

Chuck Holiday - Just Can't Trust Nobody - Gloria 112

The Poets - Wrapped Around Your Finger - J.2. 1302

The Changing Scene - When The City Sleeps - JoVeeJo 5192

Robby Lawson - Burning Sensation - Kyser 2122

Lester Tipton -This Won't Change - La Beat 6607

Ernest Mosely - Stubborn heart - La Cindy 225 (WD)

The Antiques - Go For Yourself - La Salle 0069

The Utopias - Girls Are Against Me - La Salle 0072

Timmie Williams - Competition - Mala 515

Devotions - Do Do De Dip - Nation 61165

The Oracles - I Ain't Got Time - O.M. 1967

The TSU Toronados - A Thousand Wonders - Ovide 223

Jackie Day - Naughty Boy - Phelectron 382

Imperial C's - Someone Tell Her - Phil L.A. of Soul

The Magnetics - I Have A Girl - Ra Sel 7104

Nelson Sanders - Mojo Man - Rambler 3001

The Stunners - Nobody But Me - Renfro 120

Hayes Cotton - Black Wings Have My Angel - Resist 504

Eric Mercury & The Soul Searchers - Lonely Girl - Sac 001

Shirley Edwards - Dream My Heart - Shrine 110

The Jokers - Soul Sound - SkoField 23

The Masquaders - That's The Same Thing - Soultown 201

Ray Agee - I'm Losing Again - Soul Town 104

Yvonne Daniels - I Don't Wanna Get Away From Your Love - Sterling 101

Lou Pride - I`m Com'un Home In The Morn 'un - Suemi 4567

John & The Weirdest - Can't Get Over Those Memories - No Time - Tie 101

Johnny Honeycutt - I'm Coming Over - Triode 111

Royal Robins - Somethin' About You That Sends Me - Tru-Glo-Town 506

Clara Hardy - I Dream Of You - Tuna 010

Melvin Davis - Find A Quiet Place Wheel City

Freddie Butler - Save Your Love For Me - Wheelsville 10001

The Worth Mentioning/Future Rarities?!

The Celebraties - I Choose You - Boss 503

Pic & Bill - What Does It Take - Charay

The Blendells - You Need Love - Dontee 101

The Dreamettes - Thats Not Love - Dream Maker

Hank Hodge - Eye For An Eye - Eye 503

Extremes - How I Need Your Love - 4 Jay 41514

Joan Dovalle - Holiday - Hot 101

Jesse Davis - So Full Of Love - Jaboth 101

The Del Larks - Out Of The InCrowd - Jet 101

Little Ron & The Esquires - I Found Someone - ?

Arthur Willis - The Hurting Is Over - Mars La Tour

Robert Tanner - Sweet Memories - Megatone 113

Joey Delorenzo - Wake Up To The Sunshine Girl - MiVal 101

Marilyn Barbarin - Just A Teenager - Nola 741

Ward Burton - Sweet Temptation - Panther 5

Gerri Shivers - Lets Try It Again - Pat

The Locations - Mr.Diamond Man - Ron Paul 101

Byron - I Just Want You - Sidra 10084

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SURELY THE RAREST SOUL RECORD IS THE SAM NESBIT - BLACK MOTHER GOOSE ON UK 777. ONLY ONE KNOWN COPY THAT ADY SOLD IN THE 70,S.

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Heres a list of your "rarest of the rare".

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At least 50% of that list have turned up on Ebay. Remember some of us were buying off there 5/6 years ago. It was like taking candy from a baby.

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how about

Timmie Carr      Workin    Kee

Fred and the Turbins    Bernadine    Cenco

any one know Norma Rivers    Not gonna hurt me  Genuine

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I'd be suspicious of Timmie Carr - one on ebay last week, second one in a few months apparently

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I'm sure there are only two known copies of "The Hurting Is Over" by Arthur Willis & The Soulful Dynamics on Mars La Tour (remember I raved about this a few months ago!!).

They're believed to be in the hands of Butch and Andy Rix. Also add to the list (please correct me if I'm wrong):

The Limelites: Don't Leave Me Baby (Uncle) - 2/3 copies?

Royal Five: My Baby Cares For Me (Cobra) - 2 copies (I think)

Rodd Keith: Like The Lord Said (Preview) - 3 copies?

Kenny Gamble: Chains Of Love (Arctic) - 1 copy?

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I'm sure there are only two known copies of "The Hurting Is Over" by Arthur Willis & The Soulful Dynamics on Mars La Tour (remember I raved about this a few months ago!!). 

They're believed to be in the hands of Butch and Andy Rix.  Also add to the list (please correct me if I'm wrong):

The Limelites: Don't Leave Me Baby (Uncle) - 2/3 copies?

Royal Five: My Baby Cares For Me (Cobra) - 2 copies (I think)

Rodd Keith: Like The Lord Said (Preview) - 3 copies?

Kenny Gamble: Chains Of Love (Arctic) - 1 copy?

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what about the TR3 - cant wait much longer

ex salvadors c/u

never seen one of these ever

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Apolgies if "o" is missing from words supposed to cntain "o", but the "o" key on my keyboard only wrks when it f*cking well wants <_<

Thought of a few more...

Margaret Little - Love finds a way - 2 known

Billy Wisdom - Handwriting - 1 Out-a-site copy and about 3 acetates... let me know when this turns up :lol: would lve one

Gene tones ISSUE - just the one as far as I know

Gwen Owens "Wanted and needed" - 3 original issues (?) and a few more demos, or is it the other way round :)

Damon Fox - 4 copies?

Ernest Mosley DEMO - 1 copy, but fairly easy on blue label...

Walter Wilson - 3 according to JM

Ivorys on Wand - heard there were only a handful. Is this true?

'bout it now for me...anyone else??

billy :)

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Gene tones ISSUE - just the one as far as I know

seen one on ebay - micks got one - someone else I know had one, I'll remember who it is in a minute

Ivorys on Wand - heard there were only a handful. Is this true?

Supposedly only one so far...

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Gwen owens & Melvin Davis

I think that Gwen Owens "Mystery man" on Oncore is rarer than her "Wanted & Needed" (of which at least about ten copies surfaced since she last visited Britain...).

The rarest of them all Melvin Davis has to be his Jackpot 45. I know of only two copies and most people including Tim Brown and Butch did not even know about this recording. A fab doublesider btw.

Marc

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How do people regard 'rarer' copies on 'rarer' formats?

ie If there were a thousand and one issues but only 2 dj copies, or vice versa.

Or, a few 'local' releases, before going to a larger label?

How would it effect the values?

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Ivorys on Wand - heard there were only a handful. Is this true?

Supposedly only one so far...

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Oh no more than one copy....I know of three including mine. :)

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How do people regard 'rarer' copies on 'rarer' formats?

ie If there were a thousand and one issues but only 2 dj copies, or vice versa.

Or, a few 'local' releases, before going to a larger label?

How would it effect the values?

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The record is "avaiable" in it's original format, either demo or issue regardless of scarcity of one or the other. It's not as tho' there are only two known copies full stop (demos), there would be a 1001 issues also so the record is more obtainable. Value of the 2 known demos would surely be reflected but the record isn't a 2 kinown copy is it in the same token as Margaret Little or Kell Osbourne (Highland).

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What about Clyde McPhatter's "Please give me one more chance" Decca 45, was that real Mr Potts?

The rarest of them all Melvin Davis has to be his Jackpot 45.

I just typed Melvin Davis and Jackpot on google to find out more and I got a list of Michigan Lottery winners with a certain Melvin Davis from Detroit on the list. Wonder if it was the one we know? :)

Heikki 1

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The record is "avaiable" in it's original format, either demo or issue regardless of scarcity of one or the other.  It's not as tho' there are only two known copies full stop (demos), there would be a 1001 issues also so the record is more obtainable.  Value of the 2 known demos would surely be reflected but the record isn't a 2 kinown copy is it in the same token as Margaret Little or Kell Osbourne (Highland).

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OK so I go back for the hundredth time to my White Demo of Gail Anderson - Be Proud you are in love. Issues are very common, but I have only been able to find word of 2 other copies. Does this mean I am sat on a rarity that might be worth a few quid, or does the fact that since Stafford, hardly anyone bothers with it, so I am sat on a rarity worth peanuts?? :)

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What about Clyde McPhatter's "Please give me one more chance" Decca 45, was that real Mr Potts?

I just typed Melvin Davis and Jackpot on google to find out more and I got a list of Michigan Lottery winners with a certain Melvin Davis from Detroit on the list. Wonder if it was the one we know?  :)

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Amazing :lol:

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OK so I go back for the hundredth time to my White Demo of Gail Anderson - Be Proud you are in love. Issues are very common, but I have only been able to find word of 2 other copies. Does this mean I am sat on a rarity that might be worth a few quid, or does the fact that since Stafford, hardly anyone bothers with it, so I am sat on a rarity worth peanuts??  :)

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Dunno, but if it's peanuts I'll swap you a couple of packets for it... :lol: Fantastic tune :):D

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OK so I go back for the hundredth time to my White Demo of Gail Anderson - Be Proud you are in love. Issues are very common, but I have only been able to find word of 2 other copies. Does this mean I am sat on a rarity that might be worth a few quid, or does the fact that since Stafford, hardly anyone bothers with it, so I am sat on a rarity worth peanuts??  :)

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Anyone bothers??? Superb record, started hearing this out again :lol:

Tricky one Mikey and it appears you do have a rarity on your hands but as the issue is fairly common, seen a couple @ £150 recently I doubt this would reflect in the demo too greatly. Demo would be priced accordingly but doubt to the same effect as if it were a one copy record. Toughie really to price as not many others seem to have seen one.

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OK so I go back for the hundredth time to my White Demo of Gail Anderson - Be Proud you are in love. Issues are very common, but I have only been able to find word of 2 other copies. Does this mean I am sat on a rarity that might be worth a few quid, or does the fact that since Stafford, hardly anyone bothers with it, so I am sat on a rarity worth peanuts??  :)

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great comment.

i've hundreds & hundreds of those type of 'toones' 'tunes'(i've a copy of that somewhere,try, try 'you're my baby', same geezer, and nightwalker-stalker or something or other,not the simco job, b sides differ, someone help my brain latch on to the right one, old soul age!) and 100's of other super rare worthless classic soul dance able records.

Re don gardner = 100's

we are all sat on a fortune, but would you sell them?

as for 'known' copies i feel thats a little ambiguous, who in their right mind presses 3 known copies? somewhere, my friends, there must be more.

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What about Clyde McPhatter's "Please give me one more chance" Decca 45, was that real Mr Potts?

I just typed Melvin Davis and Jackpot on google to find out more and I got a list of Michigan Lottery winners with a certain Melvin Davis from Detroit on the list. Wonder if it was the one we know?  :)

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Hello Heikki, not seen u at sheridans for a while? not fancy skating?? :lol:

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Anyone bothers???  Superb record, started hearing this out again  ranting_1.gif

Tricky one Mikey and it appears you do have a rarity on your hands but as the issue is fairly common, seen a couple @ £150 recently I doubt this would reflect in the demo too greatly.  Demo would be priced accordingly but doubt to the same effect as if it were a one copy record.  Toughie really to price as not many others seem to have seen one.

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£150 for an issue?????????

These were common as muck. I'd have thought £10 as there are so many. The market has really gone mad!!

Agree with you and Rachel. great tune, especially when played over a loud sound system.

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What About The Blendells On Dontee Shouldnt That Be Included ?

Could Be Wrong

Probably Am

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I'll say! Pat sold one for £3,000 a while back didn't he? So it can't be a common record to sell for that much! But on the other hand the boots must affect the price.....in fact, think one sold on eBay a month or two ago fo about $1,200 (£700)....bugger! missed it!

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What about

Lil Levair-I´ll be so Happy on Lennan

Jesse Davis-gonna hang on in there(issue)

Chris Jackson-Since theres no doubt ,On advance promo or was it acetate?....who has it now?

Chuck Holidyay & Johnny Rogers are not rare!just expensive ive owned three copies(different)of each in the past.

Don´t forget we can only guess how many in our circle of contact ,for examle i met a guy from Saarbruchen at a Berlin soul night,we got to talking about records etc,i asked him what his best buy was he said not sure but his wife found an Original lady in green here in Germany at a record fair!

Also what about the people(obviously collectors)that compiled the early Detroit lable listings? I would magine over the years many "one offs" dissapeared into collections that have long been off the scene/out of the limelight,how may of us have old mates that collected

but never sold up?

Ask Carl Fortnum about the night at Peterboro when an old soullie turned up and was relieved of his "sales box"very cheaply! Del Larks,Al Williams plus countless others! wonder who told him what his sounds were really worth later on :wicked: when the vultures were full aggressive.gif

Maybe we will never really know but it makes fun trying to find out

Steve

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Not sure if many know this, Gene Holiday - Scratch My Name Off The Mailbox on Johnson. I've heard there are only five known copies, two of which are here in Dublin; I've a Demo and my mate's an issue. Got mine from the states about a year and a half ago from a doo wop dealer. I've heard it ranging from £250 to £500 but price could be reflective of not being well known rather than rarity. In the right hands, could go through the roof.

Incidentally, Rob Thomas didn't know it and Carl Willingham told me the $100 I paid for it was a bargain.

Anybody got any info on this?

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Regarding Gene Toones Blue stock/issue Simco copy and Mark White will be able to confirm this, he sold it to me in the early 80's for a snip compared to today's prices think i got that and a George Freeman demo for about £45.00, i then sold both that and an Empire's Candi demo to Carl Fortnum for £805.00 for the pair around 1989 ish, i think Gary Spencer had the Gene Toones not sure?

It was a blue lable printed directly onto the vinyl and the script/wording/title etc. was almost worn away, also it developed a slight hiss at the start, love to known who has this now.

Hope this helps, regards - Mark Bicknell.

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Regarding Gene Toones Blue stock/issue Simco copy and Mark White will be able to confirm this, he sold it to me in the early 80's for a snip compared to today's prices think i got that and a George Freeman demo for about £45.00, i then sold both that and an Empire's Candi demo to Carl Fortnum for £805.00 for the pair around 1989 ish, i think Gary Spencer had the Gene Toones not sure?

It was a blue lable printed directly onto the vinyl and the script/wording/title etc. was almost worn away, also it developed a slight hiss at the start, love to known who has this now.

Hope this helps, regards - Mark Bicknell.

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Pat Brady had an issue when he was playing this at Clifton Hall/Wigan in the early eighties. I thought Gary Spence got his off Pat. (Swapped demo and other record). Long time ago though, might be wrong about it being GS. Are there two copies then ?

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Not sure if many know this, Gene Holiday - Scratch My Name Off The Mailbox on Johnson. I've heard there are only five known copies, two of which are here in Dublin; I've a Demo and my mate's an issue. Got mine from the states about a year and a half ago from a doo wop dealer. I've heard it ranging from £250 to £500 but price could be reflective of not being well known rather than rarity. In the right hands, could go through the roof.

Incidentally, Rob Thomas didn't know it and Carl Willingham told me the $100 I paid for it was a bargain.

Anybody got any info on this?

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Hi Paul

Better make that 6 as I've got an issue too.

Paul

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Hi Paul

Better make that 6 as I've got an issue too.

Paul

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You could be one of the five Paul. There are the two in Dublin, and I've heard a bloke in Wigan has another but I don't know where the other two are. Incidentally, any copy I've heard of have been issues, mine's the only demo I've heard of.

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Anybody any idea about how many copies of Jimmy Delphs 'Dancing etc etc' on Carla are around. Issue and demo ?

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The Gene toones issues, Micks like you said, & Carl Fortnum.

Just remembered who the other Inspirations owners are: Kenny, Tim, Mick & Ginger. I'm a mind of useless information :thumbsup:

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Back to Rarest of the rare how about

Good bye my love The Magnetics Ground Hog

Played it to Mick H at the last Prestatyn - he has nether seen nor heard of it before- would appreciate feedback

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