Guest Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Please forgive me being an Ignoramous, but I've only started seriously buying vinyl recently. My efforts 20 years + ago were limited to Disco Demand, Casino Classics et al. I have just bought a copy of " I Was Born to Love You" - Herbert Hunter on SPAR 9009, which doesn't look right and sure doesn't play right. It was described as a "re-issue". There's a couple more in the post described likewise, either: "Re-issues" or "2nd Issues". Am I getting what I think I should be getting, or am I getting bootlegs? Any enlightenment on the subject gratefully accepted, or am I a div'? Mick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 An original Herbert Hunter should have the Nashville Matrix stamped in the run out groove, you will spot it when you look. Boots often termed "re issues" or "second issues". Stick to buying originals. Not all are expensive, many cheap quality sounds out there. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Thanks for the info. Chalky. No, it doesn't have the marking you describe - what could I expect for £10 inc. P&P? I have to say though, this euphenism of "re-issue" pisses me off. Why can't people be straight about it? I've just enquired about the: "nice re-issue 45 in -m cond cameo parkway yvonne baker you didnt say a word/vicki baines country girl", currently on Ebay. When asked if it's a bootleg the seller tells me, "yes, its a reissue, originals on cameo parkway,but be careful as theres a bootleg on that label too". Turns out he's actually selling the bootleg he's talking about. Why didn't he just say so? And what's the point of owning a bootleg anyway? - surely anyone can go and get a batch of vinyl pressed and sell it. Thanks for your help once again. I will stick to "originals" in future. I bet Ebay and Gemm have a policy on this.... Mick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I'm pretty sure with e-bay you aren't allowed to say "bootleg" as it is illegal and therefore e-bay would be breaking the law. You do get some legit re-issues but the majority of "re-issues" are boots. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Chalky is right (as usual!), e-bay does not allow the selling of bootlegs (or 'made-up cd's come to that), so if the seller didn't know who you were he may of been covering his arse... The bootleg he was refering to was probably the yvonne baker booted on cameo (white label i think) passed off as the original, unlike the latest one with VB on the other side which shouldn't fool any one! Original vinyl rules!! Dave Abbott Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Well if you're after an original Yvonne Baker the last I've seen on a couple of lists have all been around £450. Incidentally is the UK London release legit, I always assumed it was? Andy F Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I would imagine that the Yvonne Baker on UK London is legit. as they had the rights to the Cameo Parkway back catalogue at the time re-issuing Chubby Checker and the like Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-R Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Yep, the London issue is indeed legit. The following releases were issued by London between 1975 and 1978, mainly aimed at the Northern Soul market: HLU 10469: LARRY SAUNDERS: On The Real Side/Let Me Be The Special One HLE 10491: BARBARA MILLS: Queen Of Fools/Make It Last HLU 10515: CHUBBY CHECKER: (At The) Discotheque/Slow Twistin' HLU 10518: BUNNY SIGLER: Let The Good Times Roll/Girl Don't Make Me Wait HLU 10545: WILLIE MITCHELL: The Champion Pts 1 & 2 HLU 10553: YVONNE BAKER: You Didn't Say A Word/BOBBY PARIS: Night Owl HLU 10557: CHUBBY CHECKER: You Just Don't Know/Two Hearts Make One Love I can remember going into the local soul import record shop in the late '70s, where these were all in stock at 90p each!! Worth noting that "You Just Don't Know" also came out in France and Italy (I think), also on London, with picture sleeves. BTW, all the releases above also have red label demo counterparts which look really neat! Best, Gene Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Latest euphenism: "Pressing", sorry, pisses me off! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 When I used to buy lots of Boots/"2nd issues"(hee hee sorry)in the 70s because I was skint, didn't travel much & didn't know much,I just wanted to hear as many records as possible they were always known as "pressings" (weren't they?) Dave G. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 I WAS THE SAME IN THOSE DAYS DAVE, VERY GREEN! ALWAYS REFERRED TO BOOTS AS PRESSINGS Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 yuk yuk yuk im gonna be sick always stick to original records dont line the pockets of the greedy booters Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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