Joe Tex, Pneumonia, King

[Hold Tight]

Hi, does anybody out there have, or know where there is , a copy of Joe Tex - Pneumonia - on King for sale at a reasonable price. If you do please pm me. ta Mark.

[Benji]

Once Mark is sorted, I'd like to be the next in the queue

[Guest LWJ2]

Then i am 3rd !

Have been after this tune for 2 years or more !

Dundee Davie has got a copy which has a great Hammond Organ sound ........

Edited December 18, 2007 by LWJ2

[Hold Tight]

Then i am 3rd !

Have been after this tune for 2 years or more !

Dundee Davie has got a copy which has a great Hammond Organ sound ........

Dundee davie also has the alternate take of it and wants it on 78. Hows that for research.

[pow wow mik]

I'll pay an unreasonable price for it

[Tommaso]

I'll pay an unreasonable price for it

Everybody's want eh?

I like it a lot too.. but there's too much competition..

[Hold Tight]

Everybody's want eh?

I like it a lot too.. but there's too much competition.. there is now

[Guest octopus]

too much competition indeed!!

pneumonia on evil bay

[Denbo]

too much competition indeed!!

pneumonia on evil bay

Do you think that's a fair price?

[Guest octopus]

Do you think that's a fair price?

for me it isn't a fair price, even if it's a wonderful piece of 45 . but everyone gives his own value and bid consequently.

what about you? do you think it's a fair price?

[Denbo]

for me it isn't a fair price, even if it's a wonderful piece of 45 . but everyone gives his own value and bid consequently.

what about you? do you think it's a fair price?

I think you've got to think about that kind of price to get a copy of this record in this very competitive collecting scene of ours.

Somebody told me the other day, these 45s are getting scarcer and the asking prices are going up accordingly.

So, do I think that this 45 in particular is worth £200? Then yes I do. In fact I think it's worth a lot more!!!

[Guest dundeedavie]

i'm getting a wee bit tired playing it to be honest lol

[Denbo]

i'm getting a wee bit tired playing it to be honest lol

Hi Davie,

I haven't heard it played anywhere I go for donkies.

Also, I think you are more a DJ than a collector and tend to turn over your DJing box as regularly as you can afford. Is that correct?

Besides, it's always easier to get tired of a record when you've already got it and you also use it in your playlists.

Those that ain't got it, want it, especially the collectors amongst us.

[Guest dundeedavie]

Hi Davie,

I haven't heard it played anywhere I go for donkies.

Also, I think you are more a DJ than a collector and tend to turn over your DJing box as regularly as you can afford. Is that correct?

Besides, it's always easier to get tired of a record when you've already got it and you also use it in your playlists.

Those that ain't got it, want it, especially the collectors amongst us.

that is pretty much correct yeah ....also seemed that i was playing it everytime i dj'd cos people were asking for it .

what can i say i get bored easy lolol and that's the reason i sold johnny taylor ep , patience valentine , dusty wilson , big daddy rogers (the alt of that is better too) , joe tex i wanna be free cos i was sick hearing them

[Denbo]

that is pretty much correct yeah ....also seemed that i was playing it everytime i dj'd cos people were asking for it .

what can i say i get bored easy lolol and that's the reason i sold johnny taylor ep , patience valentine , dusty wilson , big daddy rogers (the alt of that is better too) , joe tex i wanna be free cos i was sick hearing them

I get bored easily too, which is why I'm STILL collecting.

The alternative version of the Joe Tex is good / better also, but I think you and I have been down this road before.

[Hold Tight]

I think £200 for that opy was a bit much, label well off centre and SR on label. So would not appeal to a collector.

Dj wise lot of money for the track, especially with Belgiums track record for catching people out.

I first heard it in France and am still looking for a copy and will no doubt be looking for quite a while.

[Denbo]

I think £200 for that opy was a bit much, label well off centre and SR on label. So would not appeal to a collector.

Dj wise lot of money for the track, especially with Belgiums track record for catching people out.

I first heard it in France and am still looking for a copy and will no doubt be looking for quite a while.

Hi,

I think £200 is a very good price for a very rare record.

I take your point about the Belgians but there's no way that particular Joe Tex 45 with the label off-centre, etc is a Belgian boot. That is an original that belongs in a good collection. As long as the record is on-centre, no harm done. The label being off-centre somehow lends itself more to its credibility and authenticity as an original. I've seen and got many King / Federal Audition copies like this one with 'not so perfect' labels. No matter.

Anyhow, keep looking, one day you'll find one and hopefully it will have been worth the wait. I guess some people can't wait, hence sellers and buyers on eBay and the like.

Denbo.

[Guest dundeedavie]

I get bored easily too, which is why I'm STILL collecting.

The alternative version of the Joe Tex is good / better also, but I think you and I have been down this road before.

just a different mindset that's all ,

[Denbo]

just a different mindset that's all ,

True.

[Hold Tight]

Hi,

I think £200 is a very good price for a very rare record.

I take your point about the Belgians but there's no way that particular Joe Tex 45 with the label off-centre, etc is a Belgian boot. That is an original that belongs in a good collection. As long as the record is on-centre, no harm done. The label being off-centre somehow lends itself more to its credibility and authenticity as an original. I've seen and got many King / Federal Audition copies like this one with 'not so perfect' labels. No matter.

Anyhow, keep looking, one day you'll find one and hopefully it will have been worth the wait. I guess some people can't wait, hence sellers and buyers on eBay and the like.

Denbo.

Didn't mean to suggest it was a boot. I have bought stuff that is original from Belgioum only to have lots of poor excuses for not sending it - ending in claims against the traders.

See what you mean about the quirkiness factor of the labels - and I do love the little infomercial bits on the labels of demo/audition copies. I have some and in the main there great history. Still back to the search.

Edited January 14, 2008 by hold tight

[Denbo]

Didn't mean to suggest it was a boot. I have bought stuff that is original from Belgioum only to have lots of poor excuses for not sending it - ending in claims against the traders.

See what you mean about the quirkiness factor of the labels - and I do love the little infomercial bits on the labels of demo/audition copies. I have some and in the main there great history. Still back to the search.

Good Luck with your search.

[Marc Forrest]

Joe Tex at 401 USD is a steal, especially if someone is willing to pay as much as 423 USD for an illegal bootleg of Tiny Topsy

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=014

can somebody tell me in what state of mind somebody must be who pays 423 for a bootleg ? Even if he tries to get a way with this as an original (there are some out there who try at least so I have heard..) it does look so different from the original (which I btw had problems to sell on here for 250 UKP if I remember correctly). WoW.

Edited January 15, 2008 by Marc Forrest

[Denbo]

Joe Tex at 401 USD is a steal, especially if someone is willing to pay as much as 423 USD for an illegal bootleg of Tiny Topsy

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=014

can somebody tell me in what state of mind somebody must be who pays 423 for a bootleg ? Even if he tries to get a way with this as an original (there are some out there who try at least so I have heard..) it does look so different from the original (which I btw had problems to sell on here for 250 UKP if I remember correctly). WoW.

Hi Marc,

Does this repro of a Demo REALLY look that much different to your original Demo?

Only, it looks so real to me.

[Marc Forrest]

Hi Marc,

Does this repro of a Demo REALLY look that much different to your original Demo?

Only, it looks so real to me.

Hi Denbo, as real as the other bootlegs this seller is selling since several months now. Usually though the labels the manufacturer of these boots uses are taken from original records (his Old Town repros are like that but do usually feature two different artists on each side). My original was an issue and sadly I don`t have it anymore but as the buyer was someone from this site he may be able to posta scan ?

But do you intend to say the buyer thinks he bought an original ? It clearly states in his auction Repro and his Mike Pedicin "only" made 123 sth USD (for that reason ?).

Marc

[Denbo]

Hi Denbo, as real as the other bootlegs this seller is selling since several months now. Usually though the labels the manufacturer of these boots uses are taken from original records (his Old Town repros are like that but do usually feature two different artists on each side). My original was an issue and sadly I don`t have it anymore but as the buyer was someone from this site he may be able to posta scan ?

But do you intend to say the buyer thinks he bought an original ? It clearly states in his auction Repro and his Mike Pedicin "only" made 123 sth USD (for that reason ?).

Marc

Hi Marc,

No, I'm not suggesting the buyer might have thought it was an original. Unless of course he or she didn't see the comment about it being a repro.

Do you know if this Tiny Topsy 45 repro had a different artist on the flip side?

Forget that last comment. I've just checked and it's Tiny Topsy on both sides. Although I can't remember off the top of my head if it was 'Everybody Needs Some Loving' on the flip of the original?

I still have my issue but I'm away from home at the moment.

Denbo.

Edited January 15, 2008 by denbo

[pow wow mik]

I bought yours in the end Marc, must be a few years ago now. It was an issue.

The pictures of these 're-issues' look very much like originals. They have the raised rim and dip to the centre on the labels, and I've not seen any boots with those details before.

the Mike pedicin boot had a flat label, like most recent boots.

The people bidding those amounts for it must be insane or unable to read English. All 8 of them

As for Joe Tex, think it's well worth 200, i think one of the hardest on Federal King. I'm sure most r&b fans have been aware of it since the Federal/King CD came out 5+ years ago, and I've hardly seen any for sale since.

The other version is great, where's it from some old comp of unreleased stuff or something?

I heard a re-issue label bought a lot of Federal/King catalogue in the 70s and released a lot of unreleased stuff, probably in japan. Why does so much previously-unreleased stuff come from Japan??

Edited January 15, 2008 by mik parry

[Denbo]

I bought yours in the end Marc, must be a few years ago now. It was an issue.

The pictures of these 're-issues' look very much like originals. They have the raised rim and dip to the centre on the labels, and I've not seen any boots with those details before.

the Mike pedicin boot had a flat label, like most recent boots.

The people bidding those amounts for it must be insane or unable to read English. All 8 of them

As for Joe Tex, think it's well worth 200, i think one of the hardest on Federal King. I'm sure most r&b fans have been aware of it since the Federal/King CD came out 5+ years ago, and I've hardly seen any for sale since.

The other version is great, where's it from some old comp of unreleased stuff or something?

I heard a re-issue label bought a lot of Federal/King catalogue in the 70s and released a lot of unreleased stuff, probably in japan. Why does so much previously-unreleased stuff come from Japan??

My sentiments exactly, on everything you've written here.

That so-called repro does look really real.

As for the 'alternate' version of Joe Tex's Pneumonia, it's on a legit re-issue Joe Tex Lp, from the States, the title of which escapes me now as I'm away from home, BUT, the story goes that when they came to put the Pneumonia track on the Lp, they found that the master tape had been lost, so they found an alternate take, which has a more pronounced organ riff in the background, and put that on instead.

[Marc Forrest]

I bought yours in the end Marc, must be a few years ago now. It was an issue.

My how time flys, good to see you still enjoy the record