Pete S Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) I just heard this on the soundfiles section and I think the impossible has happened and I have found a record that is actually WORSE than Larry Houston. What on earth makes companies put out records like this which are so bad that surely not even the singers own relations could have bought a copy. Worst record I've ever heard. p.s. I liked the instrumental of Peanut Duck though Edited March 19, 2005 by Pete-S Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Oh be quiet It's lovely! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 Oh be quiet It's lovely! link No it's not, it's utter, utter shit. Please tell me what I am missing here, it's badly sung, badly produced, badly played and is f*cking shit. What is it you like about it so I know where I'm going wrong? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Petebangor Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 No it's not, it's utter, utter shit. Please tell me what I am missing here, it's badly sung, badly produced, badly played and is f*cking shit. What is it you like about it so I know where I'm going wrong? link It just makes the hairs on my neck stand up when it's played out.I think it's awesome,but hey,horses for courses and all that Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Martyn Pitt Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 But Pete S, you have to like it because it's thousands of pounds If it was only a fiver I would not buy it, to my ear it is distinctly average, but each to their own. Martyn Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I just heard this on the soundfiles section and I think the impossible has happened and I have found a record that is actually BETTER than Larry Houston. Best record I've ever heard. p.s. I didn't like the instrumental of Peanut Duck though link :graynone: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) But Pete S, you have to like it because it's thousands of pounds If it was only a fiver I would not buy it, to my ear it is distinctly average, but each to their own. Martyn link Is it seriously thousands of pounds? Makes you think what something like Tainted Love or Love You Baby would be worth if they were rare. Anyone who would consider paying more than a quid for that pile of crap needs treatment. It's the sort of record that drives people away from venues - if I knew I was going somewhere and that sort of thing was likely to be played, I'd stay at home and watch MOTD like I usually do p.s. that really was the first time I heard it Edited March 19, 2005 by Pete-S Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 :graynone: link Naughty! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Naughty! link Sorry - couldn't resist it..... Fact file: Tolbert did 3 records I think. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 Sorry - couldn't resist it..... Fact file: Tolbert did 3 records I think. link Where they all this good Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Where they all this good link "I got it" is the best of the 3. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Martyn Pitt Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Pete, I've Got It is on John Manships auction site @ £2015 thats about £2010 more than I would give for it. Martyn Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 No it's not, it's utter, utter shit. Please tell me what I am missing here, it's badly sung, badly produced, badly played and is f*cking shit. What is it you like about it so I know where I'm going wrong? link In your opinion perhaps, but I like it, and think he has a great voice but as bad as it sounds, I'm sure I'd feel differently if it was only worth a tenna There's a copy of the other Tolbert record on Rojac on ebay. Probably done now though. It was 12" but I can't remember what it was called. I know it had the same B-side as "I've got it", but the name of that escapes me too "Lucky guy" or something like that. Anyone got a soundfile of this side? Mark P.S. Isn't he the same guy as O.C. Tolbert? If so I'm pretty sure he's had more than 3 records out! ..unless you meant just those credited to "Tolbert" of course Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 In your opinion perhaps, but I like it, and think he has a great voice but as bad as it sounds, I'm sure I'd feel differently if it was only worth a tenna There's a copy of the other Tolbert record on Rojac on ebay. Probably done now though. It was 12" but I can't remember what it was called. I know it had the same B-side as "I've got it", but the name of that escapes me too "Lucky guy" or something like that. Anyone got a soundfile of this side? Mark P.S. Isn't he the same guy as O.C. Tolbert? If so I'm pretty sure he's had more than 3 records out! ..unless you meant just those credited to "Tolbert" of course link Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 link Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Them's em Hippo to the rescue again cheers mate Must admit those two are a bit too modern for my liking - over to you Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest garv Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 If i had the 2/3 k needed to own this oh soooo soulful record i would snap it up. Just got a cdr of it ( thanks Ian ) & played it over the phone to two mates who have never heard it............. verdict, both loved it. If you dont like modern soul then it aint gonna do it for ya. To my ears this is a top top sound. I dont give a toss about how rare it is in fact i hope someone finds a whole shed full of em so i can own a copy. Garv. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dodger Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I just heard this on the soundfiles section and I think the impossible has happened and I have found a record that is actually WORSE than Larry Houston. What on earth makes companies put out records like this which are so bad that surely not even the singers own relations could have bought a copy. Worst record I've ever heard. p.s. I liked the instrumental of Peanut Duck though link No mate, the worst record ever is Pierre Hunt "I've Got To Have Your Love" or whatever it's called. Hideous shite. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulAdequateNP Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 (sound file "Tolbert-Lucky") link Sounds kinda like it could have been the theme to an '80s teen movie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 An OK record in my opinion and I think the same about Fluorescent Smogg. There's so many better records out there between £5 - £20 in my opinion. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim Elliott Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Strange one the Tolbert track, a bit on the bassy and loud side for me, especially at the Orwell after too much of the old black stuff. Wahey Jim. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 P.S. Isn't he the same guy as O.C. Tolbert? link I think not. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I like it. I think the bass makes it a great dancer, but then again I like stuff like this anyways. The only thing that lets it down is its rarity. Not enough to go round Jamie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 No mate, the worst record ever is Pierre Hunt "I've Got To Have Your Love" or whatever it's called. Hideous shite. link Not quite Dodge; the worst record is "Cat's Eyes" by Life. If Philips pressed that today they'd breach some obscure EU regulation about misuse of vinyl. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dodger Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Not quite Dodge; the worst record is "Cat's Eyes" by Life. If Philips pressed that today they'd breach some obscure EU regulation about misuse of vinyl. link And if Soul Sam or Butch played it, everyone would want it and it'd end up costing two grand or more Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 If a record is in Soul sams top five, then I know its a tune to avoid at all costs...... Nuff said. WOOF! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 If a record is in Soul sams top five, then I know its a tune to avoid at all costs...... Nuff said. WOOF! link Well he now plays Butch's/Andy Dysons Belita Woods cover up, one to be avoided? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest cC B Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I think not. link Yes, it's the same artist as O.C.Tolbert Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Well he now plays Butch's/Andy Dysons Belita Woods cover up, one to be avoided? link One good record does not a great DJ make! WOOF! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 (edited) Here's a playlist from one of Sams sets..... Tommy Ridgely My Love Gets Stronger International City Robert Tanner Sweet Memories Megatone Hamilton Movement Shes Gone Look Out Jerry Washington Don't Waste My Love Glades King Moses I Got This Feeling Pet Margaret Little Love Finds A Way Genebro Cashmeres Don't Let The Door Hit Your Back Hem Cameros We're Not Too Young Dar Char Celebrities I Choose You Baby Boss Gentlemen Four You Can't Keep A Good Man Down Wand Bobby Kline Say Something Nice To Me MB Tolbert I've Got Love Rojac Bill Brandon Whatever I Am I'm Yours Moonsong Combinations I'm Gonna Make You Love Me Kimtone Cynthia & Imaginations Why Weren't You There Blue Rock Kenny Carlton Lost And Found Blue Rock Joseph Webster I'll Let Love Grow Stronger Crow Wee Try Me Owl Earnestine Eady Lets Talk It Over Phil-LA-Soul Eddie Whitehead Just Your Fool Blackjack New Wanderers Ain't Gonna Do You No Harm Ready Chuck Holiday I Still Love You Hemisphere Out Of Sights For The Rest Of My Life Saru nowt wrong with that little lot (IMHO) Edited March 20, 2005 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 20, 2005 Author Share Posted March 20, 2005 Not quite Dodge; the worst record is "Cat's Eyes" by Life. If Philips pressed that today they'd breach some obscure EU regulation about misuse of vinyl. link Great record Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest hammy Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Here's a playlist from one of Sams sets..... Tommy Ridgely My Love Gets Stronger International City Robert Tanner Sweet Memories Megatone Hamilton Movement Shes Gone Look Out Jerry Washington Don't Waste My Love Glades King Moses I Got This Feeling Pet Margaret Little Love Finds A Way Genebro Cashmeres Don't Let The Door Hit Your Back Hem Cameros We're Not Too Young Dar Char Celebrities I Choose You Baby Boss Gentlemen Four You Can't Keep A Good Man Down Wand Bobby Kline Say Something Nice To Me MB Tolbert I've Got Love Rojac Bill Brandon Whatever I Am I'm Yours Moonsong Combinations I'm Gonna Make You Love Me Kimtone Cynthia & Imaginations Why Weren't You There Blue Rock Kenny Carlton Lost And Found Blue Rock Joseph Webster I'll Let Love Grow Stronger Crow Wee Try Me Owl Earnestine Eady Lets Talk It Over Phil-LA-Soul Eddie Whitehead Just Your Fool Blackjack New Wanderers Ain't Gonna Do You No Harm Ready Chuck Holiday I Still Love You Hemisphere Out Of Sights For The Rest Of My Life Saru nowt wrong with that little lot (IMHO) link I agree and have to say his sets at the Lifeline are very enjoyable ! I whistled along to the flute break in the New Wanderers and I only whistle when I'm enjoying myself ! Hammy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sepia Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 WISH "ID GOT IT" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 There's a copy of the other Tolbert record on Rojac on ebay. Probably done now though. It was 12" but I can't remember what it was called. I know it had the same B-side as "I've got it", but the name of that escapes me too "Lucky guy" or something like that. Anyone got a soundfile of this side? Mark P.S. Isn't he the same guy as O.C. Tolbert? If so I'm pretty sure he's had more than 3 records out! ..unless you meant just those credited to "Tolbert" of course link The third one is called "Here I am" - it's actually quite a reasonable ballad / slowie - so I guess it won't make Pete S's wants list then....I got it in NY years ago for $2. What a shame it wasn't "I got it"... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim Elliott Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Getting off tack here I suppose but Sam's sets (and just about all the other dj's) at the Orwell/ Yarmouth are far beyond criticism, Alex Brown, Solid Solution, Robert Tanner 'the Smogg' et al, bloody marvellous. Jim. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 Getting off tack here I suppose but Sam's sets (and just about all the other dj's) at the Orwell/ Yarmouth are far beyond criticism, Alex Brown, Solid Solution, Robert Tanner 'the Smogg' et al, bloody marvellous. Jim. link I've not heard any of those but they are all rubbish Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I've not heard any of those but they are all rubbish link BTW, 'Bigboy' was responsible for Cats Eyes. He covered it as The Soul Agents - 'Grooving' Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I just heard this on the soundfiles section and I think the impossible has happened and I have found a record that is actually WORSE than Larry Houston. What on earth makes companies put out records like this which are so bad that surely not even the singers own relations could have bought a copy. Worst record I've ever heard. p.s. I liked the instrumental of Peanut Duck though link Couldn't agree more Pete i bow my head in your general direction and salute your impeccable taste Yeah right Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 Couldn't agree more Pete i bow my head in your general direction and salute your impeccable taste link I knew you would come round eventually Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I knew you would come round eventually link i think i may be suffering from heat stroke are you coming to the Orwell on Sunday Pete ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 i think i may be suffering from heat stroke are you coming to the Orwell on Sunday Pete ? link What is an Orwell??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
alison Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 What is an Orwell??? link Its your idea of musical heaven Pete - would I lie to you ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 Its your idea of musical heaven Pete - would I lie to you ? link No, you wouldn't, I know that for sure Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 BTW, 'Bigboy' was responsible for Cats Eyes. He covered it as The Soul Agents - 'Grooving' link I'm sure he'll thank you for revealing that to us. I had it down as a Russ Winstanley moment - Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 £2514, sold to a Mr P Smith of the West Midlands! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 £2514, sold to a Mr P Smith of the West Midlands! link Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
alison Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 £2514, sold to a Mr P Smith of the West Midlands! link Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Here's a playlist from one of Sams sets..... Joseph Webster I'll Let Love Grow Stronger Crow Another one by him? I know he has at least one more 45 on Crow, but this is not it is it? Typo? Chuck Holiday I Still Love You Hemisphere It should be GLORIA and not Hemisphere shouldn't it? About Tolbert, my belief is that it is indeed the same guy as O.C. Tolbert, just like Christian B. already pointed out, who put out a number of records under this name as well as King Diamond. I think the big one discussed here is OK, great vocals, but I don't like the disco parts and girlie backing vocals that much. A pretty good 'modern soul' record even if I personally don't think it is four figures good. There are many cheapies from the same time that do a lot more fo me, but I guess this is true with many other big money items too. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest cC B Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 About Tolbert, my belief is that it is indeed the same guy as O.C. Tolbert, just like Christian B. already pointed out, who put out a number of records under this name as well as King Diamond. It's not a belief - its a fact that Tolbert was the same as guy as O.C.Tolbert Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 (edited) It's not a belief - its a fact that Tolbert was the same as guy as O.C.Tolbert link I know, and before I knew I was convinced it was the same guy, I just did not want to seem too pushy. I remember when you were very sceptical that it was the same guy and demanded proof maybe a year ago or so (time flies, maybe it was longer?) when myself and others claimed it was the same guy so not strange (even though I think it is strange, follow me?) if some people don't think it is the same guy. The important thing is that he was a great artist, even if he was only one person. Edited March 24, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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