Canterbury - The Younghearts - A Little Togetherness

[45cellar]

Back on track hopefully, lost four weekends recently.

Needed to Travel to Durham & back to a relation.

Original STYRENE Monarch DEMO

Original Vinyl

On the Original Vinyl Stock Copy

There is an "LW" Lightly Scratched & on it's side just to the Left of the LR.

The Camera failed to capture it in the Photo, I will try again tomorrow.

The Matrix "67-C-506 A----------LW LR" is Rough to the touch.

This Vinyl BOOT has "JC 67- C - 506 - A RE" Scratched in the Deadwax

This one is on Vinyl has "340 67-C 506 - A" Scratched in the Deadwax

Deadwax Large & Dimpled - Poor Recording - Suspect It's a BOOT

Edited February 27, 2008 by 45cellar

[Peter99]

Back on track hopefully, lost four weekends recently.

Needed to Travel to Durham & back to a relation.

Original STYRENE Monarch DEMO

Original Vinyl

This Vinyl BOOT has "JC 67- C - 506 - A RE" Scratched in the Deadwax

This one is on Vinyl has "340 67-C 506 - A" Scratched in the Deadwax

Deadwax Large & Dimpled - Poor Recording - Suspect It's a BOOT

The scans get better and better Roger.

Always interesting. Thanks.

Peter

[45cellar]

The scans get better and better Roger.

Always interesting. Thanks.

Peter

Hi Peter

Thanks Mate, I keep experimenting, and I now have the use of my

Daughters new Digital Camera to go with my New Scanner.

I have been trying different Angles, lighting & Macro.

[Ady Croasdell]

Nice one Roger, I've got the promo in some sort of weird brown promo bag.

[Guest melandthensome]

Best scans Ive seen in a long time

cheers Roger.....

[Russoul1]

fantastic roger your the scan man lol. should have a seperate topic heading "record scans"

keep the good work up

russ

[SteveM]

Back on track hopefully, lost four weekends recently.

Needed to Travel to Durham & back to a relation.

Original STYRENE Monarch DEMO

Original Vinyl

This Vinyl BOOT has "JC 67- C - 506 - A RE" Scratched in the Deadwax

This one is on Vinyl has "340 67-C 506 - A" Scratched in the Deadwax

Deadwax Large & Dimpled - Poor Recording - Suspect It's a BOOT

The third one down Roger, the boot. Does this have a rough matt finish label ?

[Harry Crosby]

Was this on any other labels roger? thinking of something like the new younghearts, or kings of hearts can`t remember now just in the back of my mind

[45cellar]

Was this on any other labels roger? thinking of something like the new younghearts, or kings of hearts can`t remember now just in the back of my mind

Hi Harry

Yes it did.

[45cellar]

The third one down Roger, the boot. Does this have a rough matt finish label ?

Hi Steve

Yes, it does have a Matt finish to the Label.

I will try for a Matrix scan tomorrow, I ran out of Daylight today as I was taking the Photos.

[Guest]

Hi Steve

Yes, it does have a Matt finish to the Label.

I will try for a Matrix scan tomorrow, I ran out of Daylight today as I was taking the Photos.

I have heard that Bobby Womack might have a few , Roger ......

Malc Burton

[vaultofsouler]

Hi Harry

Yes it did.

Roger....

Wasn't there also a boot on yellow label with Canturbury written across in a straight line.... or am I thinking of another record altogether....

[45cellar]

I have heard that Bobby Womack might have a few , Roger ......

Malc Burton

[Guest]

Seriously , Great work with the scans Roger ; keep it up .......

Malc Burton

[Harry Crosby]

Hi Harry

Yes it did.

And are these the same version as the canterbury release, roger? or am i getting mixed up with countdown? seem to remember a slower version

[45cellar]

Roger....

Wasn't there also a boot on yellow label with Canturbury written across in a straight line.... or am I thinking of another record altogether....

Yes, Canterbury was used as a BOOT Label for some titles.

I'm not sure if The Younghearts was ever pressed with this design though.

There is the Later Canterbury Design, and Original Press.

[45cellar]

And are these the same version as the canterbury release, roger? or am i getting mixed up with countdown? seem to remember a slower version

Yes, these are the same Uptempo Version.

The one that you are thinking of came out on Minit and is a different Version (Slower)

[45cellar]

Seriously , Great work with the scans Roger ; keep it up .......

Malc Burton

Thanks Malc.

I'm hoping to scan more titles this weekend.

[vaultofsouler]

Yes, Canterbury was used as a BOOT Label for some titles.

I'm not sure if The Younghearts was ever pressed with this design though.

Not with that design Roger.... seem to remember was on yellow label with "posh old english" type font in a straight line across the top.... and smaller writing than that above....

[Harry Crosby]

Yes, these are the same Uptempo Version.

The one that you are thinking of came out on Minit and is a different Version (Slower)

Correct as usual roger, shoulda popped in for a cuppa while you were in durham, were in peterlee, thanks for info mate put me mind at rest

[45cellar]

Not with that design Roger.... seem to remember was on yellow label with "posh old english" type font in a straight line across the top.... and smaller writing than that above....

I will have a look around and what I can find out.

[45cellar]

Correct as usual roger, shoulda popped in for a cuppa while you were in durham, were in peterlee, thanks for info mate put me mind at rest

We passed quite close, remember seeing the signs to Peterlee, we were just the other side of Durham at Leadgate.

[Dave Pinch]

there is also a corresponding issue to the above white demo titled "little" as opposed to

"a little". and i think mark is right.ive also seen it on a canterbury boot

dave

[45cellar]

there is also a corresponding issue to the above white demo titled "little" as opposed to

"a little". and i think mark is right.ive also seen it on a canterbury boot

dave

Hi Dave

I'm pleased that you have reminded me of this.

Is the other "LITTLE TOGETHERNESS" Stock Copy (West Coast) Credited to The Younghearts.

A while ago there was a copy of this on Manships Auction but with The Tempos credited.

This has got to be It's rarest format. >>> LINK <<<

John does get some wonderful records, how many will own this little beauty.

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------------------ Soulful Kinda Music

Canterbury 506 - A Little Togetherness / Beginning Of The End - 1967

Soultown 10 - Young Hearts Get Lonely Too / A Little Togetherness - 1970

Zea 50004 - When You Wish Upon A Star / A Little Togetherness - 1971

Edited March 2, 2008 by 45cellar

[Harry Crosby]

Hi Dave

I'm pleased that you have reminded me of this.

Is the other "LITTLE TOGETHERNESS" Stock Copy (West Coast) Credited to The Younghearts.

A while ago there was a copy of this on Manships Auction but with The Tempos credited.

This has got to be It's rarest format. >>> LINK <<<

John does get some wonderful records, how many will own this little beauty.

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------------------ Soulful Kinda Music

Canterbury 506 - A Little Togetherness / Beginning Of The End - 1967

Soultown 10 - Young Hearts Get Lonely Too / A Little Togetherness - 1970

Zea 50004 - When You Wish Upon A Star / A Little Togetherness - 1971

Saw one of these many moons ago, never seen another, gotta be as you say the rarest format

[Dave Fleming]

This Vinyl BOOT has "JC 67- C - 506 - A RE" Scratched in the Deadwax

Interesting,as the Issue copy i have has this in the run out,

"JC 67-C-506-A a small RE then a stamped Nashville Matrix"

So what do we think of this one then?.

Dave f............

[45cellar]

Interesting,as the Issue copy i have has this in the run out,

"JC 67-C-506-A a small RE then a stamped Nashville Matrix"

So what do we think of this one then?.

Dave f............

Hi Dave

I haven't seen that one before, with the "Nashville Matrix"

Does it have any 2 digit Number beyond the "Nashville Matrix" Stamp.

[Dave Fleming]

Hi Dave

I haven't seen that one before, with the "Nashville Matrix"

Does it have any 2 digit Number beyond the "Nashville Matrix" Stamp.

Yes Mate it does but only one digit the # 5,

just checked flip side no small RE on that run out just

" JC 67-C-506-B nashville stamp 5 "

Dave f..............

[Guest Catfish]

Yes Mate it does but only one digit the # 5,

just checked flip side no small RE on that run out just

" JC 67-C-506-B nashville stamp 5 "

Dave f..............

Hi,

Just having a clear out and have one of these, did a search to try to find out what it's worth. Mine is same and believe it is a boot. In Manship's guide to reissues counterfeits and bootlegs, he writes: ' The original press can be on styrene or vinyl. The styrene copy has a delta #64811. The vinyl copy has 'child-like' handwriting for the matrix 67-c-506a lw lr. This is rounghly scratched and can be felt with the fingertips. The bootleg was made in vinyl moulded over yellow label identical to the original, but has jc 67-506 -a re 5 in the run-out. "

Looking at the scans above I'd not entirely agree that the label is identical- the printing type of 'Younghearts' is different- however I'm satisfied mine's a boot and will therefore flog it for whatever it's worth. Fortunately it only cost me a fiver.

[Prophonics 2029]

My Citations on Ballad has a Nashville stamp and a 5 as opposed to 95 or 59.

[Anoraks Corner]

Soultown 10 - Young Hearts Get Lonely Too / A Little Togetherness - 1970

Coincidence...I found one of these last saturday...£20 if anyone fancies it.

(No machine stamps, just S-10-A and S-10-B scratched in.)

[Mark Bicknell]

Coincidence...I found one of these last saturday...£20 if anyone fancies it.

(No machine stamps, just S-10-A and S-10-B scratched in.)

Is it just me or is the Soultown release a cleaner sounding mix than the Canterbury one? I've still got a Soultown copy as I just think it sounds better??????

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

[Prophonics 2029]

Coincidence...I found one of these last saturday...£20 if anyone fancies it.

(No machine stamps, just S-10-A and S-10-B scratched in.)

If its got that Stargate stamp I will take it from your mitt's Dave.

[Anoraks Corner]

If its got that Stargate stamp I will take it from your mitt's Dave.

They're not stamped like some earlier Soultown releases...different pressing plant involved?

With regards to Mark's comment about the sound quality:

I haven't owned a Canterbury (WD naturally!) copy in 20+ years, but on playing the Soultown copy it instantly sounded a lot 'sharper' than the Canterbury counterpart, as I recalled.

Yup, my ears weren't deceiving me as both the vocals and instrumentation are defo different on checking it against a Canterbury soundfile, so different takes/mixes?

The backing vocals and strings are further down in the mix of the Soultown version, whilst the brass and tambourine are defo more in your face, making it a lot 'brighter' and 'cleaner' sounding overall, without becoming 'clinical' or lifeless...and it's in mono.

Well, you live and learn...wonder what the Zea recording is like?

[Prophonics 2029]

How do you take payment, goats cattle or women let me know and I will pop it in the post to you Dave.

[Anoraks Corner]

How do you take payment, goats cattle or women let me know and I will pop it in the post to you Dave.

I accept JPYen, US$ or good ole UK£...or vinyl/styrene of course...and on the odd occasion cloth too (still need the 1st night Casino Russ & Richard and 1st Anniversary badges for the collection!)...who needs Paypal!?!

Alas Tony, it has already sold...sorry my friend. Grab a copy if you get the chance as the recording quality really is great!

[Prophonics 2029]

I accept JPYen, US$ or good ole UK£...or vinyl/styrene of course...and on the odd occasion cloth too (still need the 1st night Casino Russ & Richard and 1st Anniversary badges for the collection!)...who needs Paypal!?!

Alas Tony, it has already sold...sorry my friend. Grab a copy if you get the chance as the recording quality really is great!

Wonder if there are Soultown demos

[Jerry Hipkiss]

Wonder if there are Soultown demos

Silly boy, do you think that Flynny hasn't already thought of that?

[steve]

Interesting,as the Issue copy i have has this in the run out,

"JC 67-C-506-A a small RE then a stamped Nashville Matrix"

So what do we think of this one then?.

Dave f............

Just checked my copy out, and it's just the same, with the 'Nashville Matrix' being a 5

[Chris L]

Correct as usual roger, shoulda popped in for a cuppa while you were in durham, were in peterlee, thanks for info mate put me mind at rest

If I'm not mistaken there's a slower version of "A little togetherness" on their album.

The Younghearts circa 1970s - looking cool.

Edited December 3, 2008 by Chris L

[45cellar]

Interesting,as the Issue copy i have has this in the run out,

"JC 67-C-506-A a small RE then a stamped Nashville Matrix"

So what do we think of this one then?.

Dave f............

Just checked my copy out, and it's just the same, with the 'Nashville Matrix' being a 5

Thanks for the Information regarding "Nashville Matrix" 5

[Ady Croasdell]

I've got it in a brown paper promotional sleeve that I've never seen before or since.

[Prophonics 2029]

I've got it in a brown paper promotional sleeve that I've never seen before or since.

Do you have the technology to scan Ady.

[Guest]

Original Vinyl

On the Original Vinyl Stock Copy

There is an "LW" Lightly Scratched & on it's side just to the Left of the LR.

The Camera failed to capture it in the Photo, I will try again tomorrow.

The Matrix "67-C-506 A----------LW LR" is Rough to the touch.

According to Manship's Pride Guide (5th Edition) this information is not correct.

In the back of his guide, he lists a label scan of the original VINYL copy, and the label is different from the one you have posted. Please check the label scans in the back of the guide. It is label scan no. 565d.

[45cellar]

According to Manship's Pride Guide (5th Edition) this information is not correct.

In the back of his guide, he lists a label scan of the original VINYL copy, and the label is different from the one you have posted. Please check the label scans in the back of the guide. It is label scan no. 565d.

I haven't a copy of th 5th edition, I still believe that the Information that I have given (Posted February 2008) is Indeed correct.

This came out on Yellow & also Burgundy label,

I do have an earlier copy of the Bootleg Guide which lists this as one of the Original Vinyl (Rough to the touch deadwax info)

If any recent Information has come to light regarding this vinyl copy then I am not aware of that.

[Northern Soul Uk]

Do the original copies have these markings please?
"Togetherness"  "JC 67-C-506-A", after that there is also a "5" all on it's own several inches from the last word.

 

Thanks

Edited December 10, 2016 by Northern Soul UK

[Grayman45]

Roger....

Wasn't there also a boot on yellow label with Canturbury written across in a straight line.... or am I thinking of another record altogether....

 

 

Yes, Canterbury was used as a BOOT Label for some titles.

I'm not sure if The Younghearts was ever pressed with this design though.

There is the Later Canterbury Design, and Original Press.

 

I think it was pressed on a yellow Canterbury similar to the red design above. I'm sure mine's like that, but I'd have to dig it out to check.

Edited November 8, 2013 by Grayman45

[Guest Mr Faye]

i've got a weird copy of this...not sure if it is boot or not...the label 'Canterbury' is in different style text than the orignal and the reissue/boot copy.

My copy is very worn but you can still make it out...

Will put a scan up later when i'm home

 

Aaron

[Stateside]

The slow version of "Togetherness" and a slow version of the Tempos - Countdown

[Stateside]

Back on track hopefully, lost four weekends recently.

Needed to Travel to Durham & back to a relation.

Original STYRENE Monarch DEMO

Original Vinyl

On the Original Vinyl Stock Copy

There is an "LW" Lightly Scratched & on it's side just to the Left of the LR.

The Camera failed to capture it in the Photo, I will try again tomorrow.

The Matrix "67-C-506 A----------LW LR" is Rough to the touch.

This Vinyl BOOT has "JC 67- C - 506 - A RE" Scratched in the Deadwax

This one is on Vinyl has "340 67-C 506 - A" Scratched in the Deadwax

Deadwax Large & Dimpled - Poor Recording - Suspect It's a BOOT

I was led to believe the first two are original and the last two were boots. I had a copy of the third (image) one and paid £1 for it from a box full of them. I  sold it to someone telling them it was a boot and they were convinced I was wrong. I bought the second (image) one and it is identical to the one you have shown and believe it to be an original, It has a different font. Never seen it on a Canterbury boot with plain straight writing. The Tempos Countdown was on a burgundy coloured Canterbury boot.

 

 

Kev