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just fug this out to play at the Nuneaton Coop this saturday

PHEW ..forgot how good this baby was!

gotta great recording of this from the Casino -- try and post up tomorrow

any1 else like this oldie??

yes mark as some appeal ,as do alot of them other not played oldies ie eddie garrigan,

burning bush, jd martin, bobby diamond

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russ

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just fug this out to play at the Nuneaton Coop this saturday

PHEW ..forgot how good this baby was!

gotta great recording of this from the Casino -- try and post up tomorrow

any1 else like this oldie??

Always liked this track, not sure is it the same group who did 'I Need Someone' on Uptown which I reckon is crying out for more plays.

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Only good thing these Ambassadors did IMO was provide the backing for the Trannells - Blessed With A Love. They were also the 7 Dwarfs, or at least shared some members with them.

I think they were also the ambassadors on fleet, but not the uptown / atlantic / arctic group despite being from philly

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Came upon this little discussion and thought I'd clear a couple of things up. I'm the sax man from the Ambassadors. That's the Ambassadors from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, about 60 miles northwest of Philadelphia. The group started as the Seven Dwarves. In 1964, they added two horns "a trumpet and a sax, very unusual for the time "and became the Ambassadors. Our first gig was at the Silver Springs Fire Hall, near Lancaster. In 1965, we cut our first record, Too Young for Me (flip side: Pork Chops, an instrumental) on the Fleet label. We cut a second disk, I Want a Love (flip side: Those Things Called Girls), which was never marketed. Only one copy of that record exists: a metal and acetate dub. Our third record was Too Much of a Good Thing, on the Pee Vee label (flip side: Whole Lotta Soul). The group had several drummers and bass players over the years, and we lost one singer, who was no longer with the group at the time of Too Much. The Ambassadors continued playing through December, 1966, then disbanded.

In 1984, most of the original members reunited, with a couple of new guys, to play a reunion concert. It went so well that we kept going, playing with various personnel until 1992. We continued with the same music: the sweet soul sound of the sixties. Since 1992, we have reunited several times for one-time concerts, the most recent being in October, 2004.

We played behind a number of acts in the '60's, including Lee Andrew and the Hearts. But we never played behind the Trannells "also from Lancaster, by the way. They were their own band. Our only connection to them was that our bassist on Too Much once played with them.

Our records are occasionally available on e-bay. A brand new copy of Too Much of a Good Thing "never played, still in original sleeve "recently brought $370.

By the way, the Ambassadors from Philadelphia, referred to on this site as the Uptown/Atlantic/Arctic group, was a different group.

'Nuff said. It's great to see interest in our band after more than 40 years!

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Came upon this little discussion and thought I'd clear a couple of things up. I'm the sax man from the Ambassadors. That's the Ambassadors from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, about 60 miles northwest of Philadelphia. The group started as the Seven Dwarves. In 1964, they added two horns "a trumpet and a sax, very unusual for the time "and became the Ambassadors. Our first gig was at the Silver Springs Fire Hall, near Lancaster. In 1965, we cut our first record, Too Young for Me (flip side: Pork Chops, an instrumental) on the Fleet label. We cut a second disk, I Want a Love (flip side: Those Things Called Girls), which was never marketed. Only one copy of that record exists: a metal and acetate dub. Our third record was Too Much of a Good Thing, on the Pee Vee label (flip side: Whole Lotta Soul). The group had several drummers and bass players over the years, and we lost one singer, who was no longer with the group at the time of Too Much. The Ambassadors continued playing through December, 1966, then disbanded.

In 1984, most of the original members reunited, with a couple of new guys, to play a reunion concert. It went so well that we kept going, playing with various personnel until 1992. We continued with the same music: the sweet soul sound of the sixties. Since 1992, we have reunited several times for one-time concerts, the most recent being in October, 2004.

We played behind a number of acts in the '60's, including Lee Andrew and the Hearts. But we never played behind the Trannells "also from Lancaster, by the way. They were their own band. Our only connection to them was that our bassist on Too Much once played with them.

Our records are occasionally available on e-bay. A brand new copy of Too Much of a Good Thing "never played, still in original sleeve "recently brought $370.

By the way, the Ambassadors from Philadelphia, referred to on this site as the Uptown/Atlantic/Arctic group, was a different group.

'Nuff said. It's great to see interest in our band after more than 40 years!

Fantastic post my friend applause all round,and welcome to soulsource, keep things like this coming love this sort of stuff :wicked:

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AmbassadorSaxMan> A fantastic soul record, thanks very much or sharing this info with us! Would also very much like to hear the acetate 'I Want A Love'.....

:lol: Agree.

I've only just seen this, & thanks so much for sharing that with us man on the sax thumbsup.gif

& thanks for the great tunes :lol:

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Just a thought, but can we get Saxmans reply onto the front page or All About the Soul in some way.

Otherwise a lot of people are going to miss out onthis fascinating reply and information.

Saxman....Thanks to you and all your fellow musicians in the States for giving us a lifetime of enjoyment.

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Just a thought, but can we get Saxmans reply onto the front page or All About the Soul in some way.

Otherwise a lot of people are going to miss out onthis fascinating reply and information.

Saxman....Thanks to you and all your fellow musicians in the States for giving us a lifetime of enjoyment.

Absolutely i fully endorse brians sentiments thanks again saxman.

Regards Soulster22 :thumbsup:

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Came upon this little discussion and thought I'd clear a couple of things up. I'm the sax man from the Ambassadors. That's the Ambassadors from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, about 60 miles northwest of Philadelphia. The group started as the Seven Dwarves. In 1964, they added two horns "a trumpet and a sax, very unusual for the time "and became the Ambassadors. Our first gig was at the Silver Springs Fire Hall, near Lancaster. In 1965, we cut our first record, Too Young for Me (flip side: Pork Chops, an instrumental) on the Fleet label. We cut a second disk, I Want a Love (flip side: Those Things Called Girls), which was never marketed. Only one copy of that record exists: a metal and acetate dub. Our third record was Too Much of a Good Thing, on the Pee Vee label (flip side: Whole Lotta Soul). The group had several drummers and bass players over the years, and we lost one singer, who was no longer with the group at the time of Too Much. The Ambassadors continued playing through December, 1966, then disbanded.

In 1984, most of the original members reunited, with a couple of new guys, to play a reunion concert. It went so well that we kept going, playing with various personnel until 1992. We continued with the same music: the sweet soul sound of the sixties. Since 1992, we have reunited several times for one-time concerts, the most recent being in October, 2004.

We played behind a number of acts in the '60's, including Lee Andrew and the Hearts. But we never played behind the Trannells "also from Lancaster, by the way. They were their own band. Our only connection to them was that our bassist on Too Much once played with them.

Our records are occasionally available on e-bay. A brand new copy of Too Much of a Good Thing "never played, still in original sleeve "recently brought $370.

By the way, the Ambassadors from Philadelphia, referred to on this site as the Uptown/Atlantic/Arctic group, was a different group.

'Nuff said. It's great to see interest in our band after more than 40 years!

Thanks Mate for sharing your experience and providing Information regarding The Ambassadors.

Brilliant to hear an account from within the group, and the Various changes from time to time

"Too Much Of A Good Thing" is a much loved Northern record.

Good to hear from one of the Artists who were actually there at the time producing the records that we treasure today.

Welcome to Soul Source. :thumbup:

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Seven Dwarves.

we cut our first record, Too Young for Me on the Fleet label.

Our third record was Too Much of a Good Thing, on the Pee Vee label

Great stuff...thanks for the info...appreciate it. A long shot maybe, but do you have any idea how many copies were pressed of your three discs, and what was the inspiration behind the logo on Pee Vee?

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Thanks Mate for sharing your experience and providing Information regarding The Ambassadors.

Brilliant to hear an account from within the group, and the Various changes from time to time

"Too Much Of A Good Thing" is a much loved Northern record.

Good to hear from one of the Artists who were actually there at the time producing the records that we treasure today.

Welcome to Soul Source. :thumbup:

What an eerie coincidence...I was trying to find Nick Rennie's site and landed here instead.

I am the Ambassadors guitar player and can verify all the info shared by SaxMan (very thorough job!). I also happen to have in my possession the only copy of the acetate dub of our second, unreleased record.

Just this past weekend (hence, the eerie coincidence) I re-discovered that disc and made an .mp3 of it. I'm attaching "Those Things Called Girls" here...the uptempo side. Will post the slow soul ballad "I Want a Love" later...if there's a better way to make these tunes available, let me know.

In response to the question below, "Pancho Villa" was the nickname of Charles Miller, the owner of the Pee Vee label. It may have been his stage name in his younger years...he did not record on that label during the 60s.

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What an eerie coincidence...I was trying to find Nick Rennie's site and landed here instead.

I am the Ambassadors guitar player and can verify all the info shared by SaxMan (very thorough job!). I also happen to have in my possession the only copy of the acetate dub of our second, unreleased record.

Just this past weekend (hence, the eerie coincidence) I re-discovered that disc and made an .mp3 of it. I'm attaching "Those Things Called Girls" here...the uptempo side. Will post the slow soul ballad "I Want a Love" later...if there's a better way to make these tunes available, let me know.

In response to the question below, "Pancho Villa" was the nickname of Charles Miller, the owner of the Pee Vee label. It may have been his stage name in his younger years...he did not record on that label during the 60s.

That mp3 is very, very nice :thumbsup:

Really is great to have the actual band members posting on threads about their records :P

Adam.

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Fabulous stuff!

Many thanks for sharing the unreleased track...superb vocals/harmonies, organ and sax work. Does the acetate have a studio label on it?

:lol:

ok interesting story but what happened to the mp3, couldnt listen this morning so thought i would now.......but its gone...

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Absolutely FANTASTIC stuff - F Stroke, makes Soul Source worth logging onto. Pancho Villa did put a 45 out on Pee Vee 100, "Ain't That Bad", which also came out on "Symbol" records , though whether that's the same cut, I don't know. So, apart from yourselves, "The Shaynes" and "Pancho Villa" did anyone else record for "Pee Vee" records.

Des Parker

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Absolutely FANTASTIC stuff - F Stroke, makes Soul Source worth logging onto. Pancho Villa did put a 45 out on Pee Vee 100, "Ain't That Bad", which also came out on "Symbol" records , though whether that's the same cut, I don't know. So, apart from yourselves, "The Shaynes" and "Pancho Villa" did anyone else record for "Pee Vee" records.

Des Parker

The Couriers had at least two records that I can recall..."Stompin' Time Again" and "Feelings"...perhaps I can locate them and post later...and there must be a few others. My memory is a bit fuzzy on this, but I can check the archives and report back.

Didn't know that Pancho had released a 45! That was a surprise bit of news. Thanks!

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