Guest Matt Male Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Frankie Beverly - If That's What You Wanted - Sassy issue Sassy s -1002 A - 2 Even though this matrix number is scratched in it's an original isn't it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Should have a Frankford/Wayne stamp ? Cheers Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garrison Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Frankie Beverly - If That's What You Wanted - Sassy issue Sassy s -1002 A - 2 Even though this matrix number is scratched in it's an original isn't it? hi matt- im sure it has not been booted on sassy i know that the white demo has frankford and wayne stamped in the run out groove not sure if the red issue has this on also never had one anybody else got some info on this im sure yours is original Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Should have a Frankford/Wayne stamp ? Cheers Paul yup, agree, tho the matrix is indeed scratched it is also stamped with the full Frankford / Wayne stamp steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Frankie Beverly - If That's What You Wanted - Sassy issue Sassy s -1002 A - 2 Even though this matrix number is scratched in it's an original isn't it? Yes it is Matt, number is scratched in, then there's an F/W scratched in, then a proper Frankford/Wayne stamp Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Yes it is Matt, number is scratched in, then there's an F/W scratched in, then a proper Frankford/Wayne stamp F/W only scratched on "Love Your Pain Goes Deep" side, cant see it on ITWYW side, wonder if it's different on the one with "Just Another B Side" steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Yes it is Matt, number is scratched in, then there's an F/W scratched in, then a proper Frankford/Wayne stamp Yes there's a scratched F/W as well but no F/W stamp. I'm assuming only the demo has the stamp then? Just want to be sure before i try and sell it. Here's a couple of scans. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 F/W only scratched on "Love Your Pain Goes Deep" side, cant see it on ITWYW side, wonder if it's different on the one with "Just Another B Side" steve Ah that's it then, i've got the issue with 'Just another B side' F/W scratched on both sides. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Here`s my copy,it has the F/W stamp on both sides, also if you notice on my copy it says "S-1002-B" on your copy it says "S-1002-A-2" which is strange,i brought this mid to late 70s off Soul Bowl for £7 . Dave f........... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I gave this away with a load of boots in early 80's as always thought this was a boot then. OUCH!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bully Boy Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I gave this away with a load of boots in early 80's as always thought this was a boot then. OUCH!!! Wish It Was Me You Had Given It To Jock Hope You Are Well Mate BEST Bully Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tabs Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I gave this away with a load of boots in early 80's as always thought this was a boot then. OUCH!!! If memory serves I don't think it was ever booted on Sassy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 (edited) I gave this away with a load of boots in early 80's as always thought this was a boot then. OUCH!!! Hi Jock,we have all done things like that Mate , only kept hold of mine for the flip "Love (your pain goes deeper)" a great Slab of Soul,take it easy fella Dave f.......... Edited June 24, 2008 by Dave Fleming Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 If memory serves I don't think it was ever booted on Sassy. Your right,it was booted on "Liberty Bell" and "Out of The Past" Dave f.......... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garrison Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 one of the first records i brought over 25 years ago , a white demo - it left me skint for the rest of the week great oldie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tabs Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Your right,it was booted on "Liberty Bell" and "Out of The Past" Dave f.......... Thanks Dave. No reference books here but could never remember a Sassy boot. Some talk when Neil R found literally 1000's but they were all orig. Tabs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Thanks everyone. Dave i think the differences in matrix numbers are because there seem to be two different issues, mine has 'This is Just a B side' on the flip. Safe to stick on ebay then. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Just checked and its got FW and FFW stamp on the B-side on LYPGD S-1002-A solves my Coconut Groove Prohonics question they have the FW as well. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garrison Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Thanks everyone. Dave i think the differences in matrix numbers are because there seem to be two different issues, mine has 'This is Just a B side' on the flip. Safe to stick on ebay then. matt to save you the hassle puttin it on ebay ill offer you £50 NOTES FOR IT MATE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Thanks everyone. Dave i think the differences in matrix numbers are because there seem to be two different issues, mine has 'This is Just a B side' on the flip. Safe to stick on ebay then. What's the B-side like Matt any good. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 What's the B-side like Matt any good. A sort of mid-tempo funky instrumental. Not bad, but would be better than ITWYW if it had a vocal attached i reckon. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 A sort of mid-tempo funky instrumental. Not bad, but would be better than ITWYW if it had a vocal attached i reckon. An instrumental who velly intelesting its got to be LYPGD for me bought the record by accident thinking it was the rare one Doh Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Ah that's it then, i've got the issue with 'Just another B side' F/W scratched on both sides. Yes, I have the one with "Just Another B Side" Bought from Soul Bowl. I'm certain that It has scratched Matrix both sides. F/W etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roddy Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 my red issue has got sassy 1002b scratched on if thats what you wanted side with a full frank/wanford stamp on both sides if that helps. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Your right,it was booted on "Liberty Bell" and "Out of The Past" Dave f.......... ...and the copies on Sassy hadn't been discovered then (late 1973). Neil Rushton got the first Sassy copies directly from Billy Jackson C.1977/8. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davetay Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 ...and the copies on Sassy hadn't been discovered then (late 1973). Neil Rushton got the first Sassy copies directly from Billy Jackson C.1977/8. I had my Sassy copy about 2 or 3 years before Neil turned up shed loads. Mine was frankford/ wayne stamped. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I had my Sassy copy about 2 or 3 years before Neil turned up shed loads. Mine was frankford/ wayne stamped. Ok, Right. But my main point was that it wouldn't have been booted on SASSY in 1973, as the bootleggers weren't aware of them, hence the facsimile 'Liberty Bell' copies. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sjclement Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Ok, Right. But my main point was that it wouldn't have been booted on SASSY in 1973, as the bootleggers weren't aware of them, hence the facsimile 'Liberty Bell' copies. First time I saw a Sassy copy was at the Raven in '73 Sam played it , Later my mate Kevin bought a copy on Gamble so we all thought that the Sassy copirs were boots, Liberty Belle is the publishing company? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 First time I saw a Sassy copy was at the Raven in '73 Sam played it , Later my mate Kevin bought a copy on Gamble so we all thought that the Sassy copirs were boots, Liberty Belle is the publishing company? Another Frank Beverly an Butlers release "She Tried To Kiss Me" came out on Liberty Bell which was the lable not a publishing co. steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 First time I saw a Sassy copy was at the Raven in '73 Sam played it , Later my mate Kevin bought a copy on Gamble so we all thought that the Sassy copirs were boots, Liberty Belle is the publishing company? Apologies, I wasn't aware the Sassy copies were around so early on! (Ya' live and learn!) It was common practice for bootleggers to mock-up a plausible "local label" facsimile in those days in an effort to fool the unwary - and they're still at it. I used to have "She Tried To Kiss Me" - credited to just the Butlers I think - on Liberty Bell. Black label with silver type if memory serves(?) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I had my Sassy copy about 2 or 3 years before Neil turned up shed loads. Mine was frankford/ wayne stamped. Same here. Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest rasfoz Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 i payed 5p for a copy of the above record from a charity shop to do with saving seals in gt yarmouth in the mid 80s just dont find them little touches anymore Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 i payed 5p for a copy of the above record from a charity shop to do with saving seals in gt yarmouth in the mid 80s just dont find them little touches anymore Tch! - just find endless copies of Ken Dodd's "Tears" n' stuff in charity shops 'round here! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Neil Rushton Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I had my Sassy copy about 2 or 3 years before Neil turned up shed loads. Mine was frankford/ wayne stamped. Sassy copies around before I found a load (800 plus) at Billy Jackson's flat in New York, but I think I was the first to find any white demos and flip side with "This Is Just A B Side". Billy said he never distributed them because he did a deal with Gamble-Huff soon after pressing up the Sassy copies. Neil Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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