Skull Snaps Lp Original Or Reissue?

[Tolbert]

Hi,

how differs the original Skull Snaps Lp from the Reissue.

In the deadwaxnumbers?

Thanks for help

Tolbert

[TOAD]

THE COVERS ARE THICKER ON THE REISSUE

[Dave Thorley]

Also the sleeve on the re-issue is a gloss, where as the original is matt

[Quinvy]

The label on the re-issue is very glossy too...

[Tolbert]

Thanks TOAD , Dave and Quinvy

Unfortunately I cannot compare both.

Seller said: "as far as i,m aware this is the original copy from 1973 which is printed on the label. in the deadwax are the numbers 3972 gsfs 1011 s43021"

But this deadwaxnumbers are also on my reissue....so

Tolbert

[JOE TORQUAY]

hi,

mr manship explained it to me once long ago,

if i remember correctly the re-issue has a bit of a lip on the outside edge,

and the run-out is wider ( 9/8ths ) than on the original,

the original also has a round white sticker on the front cover,

you can always check with him to make sure,

joe.

[Tolbert]

hi,

mr manship explained it to me once long ago,

if i remember correctly the re-issue has a bit of a lip on the outside edge,

and the run-out is wider ( 9/8ths ) than on the original,

the original also has a round white sticker on the front cover,

you can always check with him to make sure,

joe.

Thanks Joe,

this should help.

Tolbert

[45cellar]

Thanks Joe,

this should help.

Tolbert

There is a Description of the first press on Manships >>> LINK <<<

Edited August 30, 2008 by 45cellar

[JOE TORQUAY]

hi,

here's a scan of the original,

i notice the re-issue has the gsf logo in the bottom right -hand corner and this has not,

joe.

[Philippe]

hi,

here's a scan of the original,

i notice the re-issue has the gsf logo in the bottom right -hand corner and this has not,

joe.

Joe, on the popsike page ALL the copies have the GSF logo in the bottom right : popsike

And the white sticker with "I'm your pimp" must be a later pressing, after that track had some success.

I think John Manship is right. But I just have the reissue.

Edited August 31, 2008 by Philippe

[Guest Adrian]

Joe, on the popsike page ALL the copies have the GSF logo in the bottom right : popsike

And the white sticker with "I'm your pimp" must be a later pressing, after that track had some success.

I think John Manship is right. But I just have the reisue.

I have always considered the issue with the printed 'sticker' to be original. I am pretty sure i'm your pimp was'nt a single was it?

bit of record company hype i thought...

I have a copy like this and I would consider it an original,.....

[Guest candj45]

hi all,its my copy of the skullsnaps on ebay at the moment.I realise that now that it is a reissue, my fault for not doing enough research on it. As i bought it in the states last year i genuinly thought it was an original.

my apologies to all i must take more lessons at the soul school.

yours,

craig

[Guest candj45]

the skullsnaps has now been revised on ebay,

yours

craig

[Ernie Andrews]

Tell me if Im wrong but the reissue is heavier vinyl came out at the same time as many others inc Gloria Scott etc

Ithink the reissues are often regarded as 180 gram vinyl

[Pete S]

I have always considered the issue with the printed 'sticker' to be original. I am pretty sure i'm your pimp was'nt a single was it?

bit of record company hype i thought...

I have a copy like this and I would consider it an original,.....

You're right, I bought it in 75 or 76 and it had the sticker on despite I'm Your Pimp never being issued as a single. It used to be 8 or 10 quid and there were hundreds about.

[Guest mel brat]

hi,

mr manship explained it to me once long ago,

if i remember correctly the re-issue has a bit of a lip on the outside edge,

and the run-out is wider ( 9/8ths ) than on the original,

the original also has a round white sticker on the front cover,

you can always check with him to make sure,

joe.

The "round white sticker" you refer to is actually PRINTED onto the cover. Matrix code is stamped on run-out groove rather than scratched, if that means anything, ie. GSF - S -1011 A on a-side GSF - S - 1011 B on b-side (natch!)

Edited September 2, 2008 by mel brat

[Julianb]

Probably a bloody stupid question but;-

is there any way to tell an original that's still sealed? ( one arrived today - it's not got the printed sticker on and can't really tell if it's matt or shiny but cover does look thin!)

TIA

Julian

[Guest Adrian]

Probably a bloody stupid question but;-

is there any way to tell an original that's still sealed? ( one arrived today - it's not got the printed sticker on and can't really tell if it's matt or shiny but cover does look thin!)

TIA

Julian

I'd say if the cover is thin its a re-issue Julian, the originals are thick and gatefold.

[Julianb]

I'd say if the cover is thin its a re-issue Julian, the originals are thick and gatefold.

Hi Adrian

It is a gatefold cover. Earlier in this thread it states that the reissues have thicker covers than the originals.

The plot thickens - looks like I'm going to have to open it to check the deadwax, label etc as per Mr Manship unless anyone else has any ideas? PLEASE!

[Philippe]

I'd say if the cover is thin its a re-issue Julian, the originals are thick and gatefold.

Adrian I have a reissue and it's gatefold. And the cover is thick, too.

[Guest Adrian]

Hi Adrian

It is a gatefold cover. Earlier in this thread it states that the reissues have thicker covers than the originals.

The plot thickens - looks like I'm going to have to open it to check the deadwax, label etc as per Mr Manship unless anyone else has any ideas? PLEASE!

Julian / Phillipe, not sure how many times it was re-issued/booted, when booted they seem to do a better job in doing covers which are hard too tell.

Have my copy infront of me now, cat no top right, GSF bot right, printed 'sticker' under cat no. Matt sleeve & label.

When opened the skeleton and tracklisting artwork is pasted on as a 24" complete print, not sure if the re would be different, maybe is printed directly onto the sleeve?

Also the inside gatefold is brown (re-issues are often white).

I have always collected 70's soul, funk & jazz lps, and you can generally just 'tell', even give it a sniff (yours is sealed so...)....I say generally but 80's lps can be damn tricky!

[Guest mel brat]

I have always collected 70's soul, funk & jazz lps, and you can generally just 'tell', even give it a sniff (yours is sealed so...)....I say generally but 80's lps can be damn tricky!

There have been quite a few facsimile reissues in recent years - rare 12"s too, which if you've never seen an original copy would be damned difficult to spot. I foresee much confusion in the near future as the reissues get a bit scuffed! (Perhaps we should start a database listing all the recent vinyl reissues!)

[Julianb]

Julian / Phillipe, not sure how many times it was re-issued/booted, when booted they seem to do a better job in doing covers which are hard too tell.

Have my copy infront of me now, cat no top right, GSF bot right, printed 'sticker' under cat no. Matt sleeve & label.

When opened the skeleton and tracklisting artwork is pasted on as a 24" complete print, not sure if the re would be different, maybe is printed directly onto the sleeve?

Also the inside gatefold is brown (re-issues are often white).

I have always collected 70's soul, funk & jazz lps, and you can generally just 'tell', even give it a sniff (yours is sealed so...)....I say generally but 80's lps can be damn tricky!

Well, opened it up and it's got a scratched in matrix, so looks like a reissue. Never mind it was only cheap!

Julian

[Dean]

Thought I'd resurrect this rather than start a new thread. Are these Italian copies reissues? (disco depositato / made in Italy /  tutti i diritti riservato) I was thinking yes, but stamped matrix MLCS 8469 22-2-73. Could the 22-2-73 be a stamped press date 22 Feb 1973? Fanciful I know but got me thinking (should have posted tomorrow, 46th anniversary!!) Gatefold sleeve, but thin card and glossy?

Any info, thanks, Dean.

[Guest Shufflin]

it looks like the 1973 Italian  one on discogs to me plus no Italian RE listed

but I'm not an expert

[Ian Seaman]

lot of this info above can't be correct according to the recent LP JM auctioned ??, not all the 1st presses (if any) had the white sticker top right ?

and what do we individually call thick or thin card ?

i reckon the sticker'd ones are 2nd press originals 

[Girdwoodinc]

I think all the first presses are stamped matrix rather than scratched - I know my French one is stamped and it's a first press