Ljblanken Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) Hi. i am hoping folks can help me with this.... i bought a comp with "what is this" by Bobby Womack and it is awesome. Then i bought a Minit single with this title and its the right song, but a slower version (which i really don't care for). I looked on Manship's website and he has a clip of the correct version linked to a single "what is this/instr." Mirwood #1004. But when i go to soulfulkindamusic there is no record of this number for mirwood. there is also a single "what is this" by bobby womack on the Keyman label (keymen 102, 1966) on the soulfulkindamusic page. i have no idea which one this is. anyway... does anyone know: a ) which one is the fast/good version of the song B ) are there any single re-issues c ) how much i should expect to pay for the original thanks in advance for your help! Edited January 16, 2009 by ljblanken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davetay Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Hi. i am hoping folks can help me with this.... i bought a comp with "what is this" by Bobby Womack and it is awesome. Then i bought a Minit single with this title and its the right song, but a slower version (which i really don't care for). I looked on Manship's website and he has a clip of the correct version linked to a single "what is this/instr." Mirwood #1004. But when i go to soulfulkindamusic there is no record of this number for mirwood. there is also a single "what is this" by bobby womack on the Keyman label (keymen 102, 1966) on the soulfulkindamusic page. i have no idea which one this is. anyway... does anyone know: a ) which one is the fast/good version of the song B ) are there any single re-issues c ) how much i should expect to pay for the original thanks in advance for your help! The Keyman version is the one that was played on the Northern Scene (fast one) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ljblanken Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 The Keyman version is the one that was played on the Northern Scene (fast one) thanks! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 The Keyman version is the one that was played on the Northern Scene (fast one) The Minit release ( # 32037 " What Is This " / " What You Gonna Do (When Your Love Is Gone ) " 1968 ) , is a reworking by BW , hence it being slower than the Keyman version ........ Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) Hi. i am hoping folks can help me with this.... i bought a comp with "what is this" by Bobby Womack and it is awesome. Then i bought a Minit single with this title and its the right song, but a slower version (which i really don't care for). I looked on Manship's website and he has a clip of the correct version linked to a single "what is this/instr." Mirwood #1004. But when i go to soulfulkindamusic there is no record of this number for mirwood. there is also a single "what is this" by bobby womack on the Keyman label (keymen 102, 1966) on the soulfulkindamusic page. i have no idea which one this is. anyway... does anyone know: a ) which one is the fast/good version of the song B ) are there any single re-issues c ) how much i should expect to pay for the original thanks in advance for your help! The Minit release in 1968 ( # 32037 " What Is This " / " What You Gonna Do ( When Your Love Is Gone ) " ) , is a reworking by BW of his own song , hence it being slower than the Keyman ( # 102 ) , version two years earlier ........ The Mirwood 1004 issue is intriguing - more likely to be a boot , as opposed to a legitimate release . Mirwood releases started in 1965 with # 5501 ( The Gas Co. " Blow Your Mind " / " Your Time's Up " ) and ended in 1967 , with # 5536 ( The Performers " The Day When She Needed Me ! / " Set Me Free " ) : # 5521 was never issued . Malc Burton Edited January 17, 2009 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 The Minit release in 1968 ( # 32037 " What Is This " / " What You Gonna Do ( When Your Love Is Gone ) " ) , is a reworking by BW of his own song , hence it being slower than the Keyman ( # 102 ) , version two years earlier ........ The Mirwood 1004 issue is intriguing - more likely to be a boot , as opposed to a legitimate release . Mirwood releases started in 1965 with # 5501 ( The Gas Co. " Blow Your Mind " / " Your Time's Up " ) and ended in 1967 , with # 5536 ( The Performers " The Day When She Needed Me ! / " Set Me Free " ) : # 5521 was never issued . Malc Burton Don't forget the fast version also came out on jayboy(Boy75). Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Malc is right, the Gold Mirwood one is a Boot. Backed with the Instrumental. It was a Soussan job. The Green / White Keyman is the original (more 'Northernesque') version backed with the awsome deepie "I Wonder". The Minit rework is also a great version (IMO) but the flipside is the best of the bunch with his incredible "What You Gonna Do" a superb mid to uptempo dancer... so ignore at your peril! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Got a mint Jay-boy,what is the current price for this cause i wanna' sell it !! gonna' take a little sales box to the 100 club tonight.ta ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) The Minit release is not a re-working of the earlier Keymen release. This misconception has been perpetuated for almost 40 years ... They are different tunes both lyrically and musically. Bobby just happened to give both releases the same title. He would not have had a problem using the old title for the Minit release as the Keymen release from a few years earlier had sunk without trace. Edited January 17, 2009 by sunnysoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 The Minit release is not a re-working of the earlier Keymen release. This misconception has been perpetuated for almost 40 years ... They are different tunes both lyrically and musically. Bobby just happened to give both releases the same title. He would not have had a problem using the old title for the Minit release as the Keymen release from a few years earlier had sunk without trace. I should have put " adaptation " instead of " reworking " , as to my ears , there are elements of the earlier Keymen version within the Minit outing ........ Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 can someone post soundfiles of the mimit and keymen tracks? can't find mine at the minute Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) I should have put " adaptation " instead of " reworking " , as to my ears , there are elements of the earlier Keymen version within the Minit outing ........ Malc Burton Sorry, Malc, I'm with George (Sunnysoul) on this one. The only elements that these two songs have in common is that they both have the words "what", "is" and "this" in the title and that both are Womack compositions. I'm also with brother Hampsey in that "What You Gonna Do" is a record that no collection should be without. BTW Jackie De Shannon's version of the Minit "What Is This" (on Imperial, produced by Womack) is also good IMO... Edited January 17, 2009 by TONY ROUNCE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Mark Holmes Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Sorry, Malc, I'm with George (Sunnysoul) on this one. The only elements that these two songs have in common is that they both have the words "what", "is" and "this" in the title and that both are Womack compositions. I'm also with brother Hampsey in that "What You Gonna Do" is a record that no collection should be without. BTW Jackie De Shannon's version of the Minit "What Is This" (on Imperial, produced by Womack) is also good IMO... Boo Hiss...just went over to my box to pull out the Minit version to play the flip...and it is an audition record and has What is This on both sides Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest inspirations001 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 The Minit release ( # 32037 " What Is This " / " What You Gonna Do (When Your Love Is Gone ) " 1968 ) , is a reworking by BW , hence it being slower than the Keyman version ........ Malc Burton same one as on uk jay boy isn't it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ajb Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 which version is on the stateside compilation album? is it the minit version? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ljblanken Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 holy cow! you guys (collectively) know a freakish amount about this topic. i guess i came to the right place with my question. thanks for all of your help! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 BOBBY WOMACK - WHAT YOU GONNA DO (WHEN YOUR LOVE IS GONE) - MINIT - Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Night Owl Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Hi the faster version also come out on british Minit in the sixties dont have my copy at hand hand for reference. Played out in Mexborough 68/69 I think. Jok Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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