Guest familytree Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 this may be a stupid question but ... how would you grade records that have been water damaged?... the labels are effected but they are otherwise mint as in no scratches/warps etc.. or does mint include the artwork?... in other words are they now useless for any market???!!!! .. warned you it was a stupid question but any advice appreciated as there are hundreds in this condition... sad site to behold, would make a grown man cry! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 this may be a stupid question but ... how would you grade records that have been water damaged?... the labels are effected but they are otherwise mint as in no scratches/warps etc.. or does mint include the artwork?... in other words are they now useless for any market???!!!! .. warned you it was a stupid question but any advice appreciated as there are hundreds in this condition... sad site to behold, would make a grown man cry! I think the first stage in grading is to look at the thing. Picture tells a thousand words too Otherwise grade separately. Failing that you need to give a really detailed description but you certainly can't say "Mint but damaged label". That's like saying there's a thousand quid only £400 is missing... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 how rare the record is must also be a factor. if its almost impossible to find then you would still get a good price IMO. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I think the first stage in grading is to look at the thing. Picture tells a thousand words too Otherwise grade separately. Failing that you need to give a really detailed description but you certainly can't say "Mint but damaged label". That's like saying there's a thousand quid only £400 is missing... haha yes see your point, i did think as much but its such a shame.. i can also see if its rare...ish it could still be sold, suppose it would be embarracing to own in this condition though?..would it be best to scrape the whole label off and just replace with white and details? or would that make it worse... there isnt plans to sell im just looking long term, inheritance etc. may be more enlightening to ask.."would you buy a record with a damaged label"? that would give me more idea thanks x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I baught gene cooper on dada with a badly damaged label. I'll try and sell it if I ever find one with a clean label that plays as well as the copy I have. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I baught gene cooper on dada with a badly damaged label. I'll try and sell it if I ever find one with a clean label that plays as well as the copy I have. thats encouraging! thanks .. what do you think of the idea scraping it all off and replacing? x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) Some releases are known to have varying degrees of water staining or damage on the labels e.g. a few of the Mary Jane 45s. The vinyl is the main thing. Be honest about label damage and provide a scan/pic. Don't use the term "slight" label damage - one man's slight is another man's massive With rare stuff, or where it is the norm that many copies are water stained/damaged, this is much more acceptable. Water damaged copy or no copy ever - well no contest - take the water! Hope this helps Richard Edited April 7, 2009 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Some releases are known to have varying degrees of water staining or damage on the labels e.g. a few of the Mary Jane 45s. The vinyl is the main thing. Be honest about label damage and provide a scan/pic. Don't use the term "slight" label damage - one man's slight is another man's massive With rare stuff, or where it is the norm that many copies are water stained/damaged, this is much more acceptable. Water damaged copy or no copy ever - well no contest - take the water! Hope this helps Richard yes it does thanks... so its a no no to scrape it off and put a white label on.. looking more asthetically pleasing, perhaps thats a woman thing?! x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MikeHinNewJersey Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 yes it does thanks... so its a no no to scrape it off and put a white label on.. looking more asthetically pleasing, perhaps thats a woman thing?! x IMO you shouldn't tamper with the original label, even if water damaged, that would potentially devalue it more than the original damage. Clean labels are nice but I think someone once said "its what's in the grooves that counts" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 IMO you shouldn't tamper with the original label, even if water damaged, that would potentially devalue it more than the original damage. Clean labels are nice but I think someone once said "its what's in the grooves that counts" thats what i wanted to hear! are you 'an englishman in new jersey' or native of? x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MikeHinNewJersey Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 thats what i wanted to hear! are you 'an englishman in new jersey' or native of? x Englishman exiled to New Jersey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) Englishman exiled to New Jersey What for?, not pealing water damaged labels off to replace them with white paper I hope. Toss up perfect label with marks or a perfect record with H20 Hummmm H2) me thinks, value yes a bit less, say 300 pounder 200 ish. Edited April 7, 2009 by Prophonics 2029 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 thats encouraging! thanks .. what do you think of the idea scraping it all off and replacing? x would make it far worse IMO leave it exactly as it is. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Look at the state of half the stuff on Shrine, not water damaged but the labels are shagged! how rare the record is must also be a factor. if its almost impossible to find then you would still get a good price IMO. Edited April 8, 2009 by mark w. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Revilot1957 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Vinyl in mint condition * See item description ........... While on the subject ... Can anybody remember Clara Ward - 'The right direction' on Verve pale blue demo ....... (Not the record itself - the fact that there were dozens of them knocking about in the late '70s, ALL with water damage to the labels) .... Did somebody find a box-full while on a diving trip in Lake Michigan, or something ??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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