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added my name at the endOn 08/02/2016 at 13:57, Maryam Snape said:I DJ mainly off vinyl, with some CDs as back up. I can't afford to buy many originals but do prefer to play records whenever possible.
I did a request night on Saturday, first time I've done it. Had two 7 inch boxes with me, CDs and a laptop. Played every request asked for and had people come up and say it was the best night of their lives.
Glad I could make some people happy even if I had to turn to the laptop for some of the tunes.
P.S. If anyone is about to kark it and wants to leave me their record collection feel free!
Hi Mazzy, You'll be able to offer a pretty unique perspective here because at your club you have your Saturday nights that you mention above which I know are usually well attended by a mixed age range and then you also have your 'Northern Soul Fridays' (I've yet to get to one but would like to) which you advertise as 'strictly original vinyl', seeing your post made me wonder how does the age range demographic compare between those 2 types of events you put on?
Jo
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to be more succinct!On 08/02/2016 at 23:53, Ian Dewhirst said:On 04/02/2016 at 12:48, Jo P said:There have been other options to how people can listen to the sounds for years though! (CD's have been around for 30 years now). No other format is as suited to the authentic unadulterated sound of the music as the analogue format it was intended to be heard on though, so maybe that's partly why vinyl has endured all these years & in my opinion will continue to do so. Anyway, an interesting debate that you have started Len, Cheers.
Jo
Errrr no actually. The CD is actually a much better medium and much more efficient at transmitting a studio recording than vinyl could ever be. Nowhere near as sexy for sure, but for those who study this stuff, the CD is the best carrier bar none. And I'm saying that having bought 300 records in the last 5 months!
https://www.laweekly.com/music/why-cds-may-actually-sound-better-than-vinyl-5352162
Ian D
Ian, I wasn't getting into which medium is 'better', most efficient etc. (even the article you posted a link to acknowledges that what sounds better is a subjective thing & includes the disclaimer 'may' in its title).
What I was saying is that where an original recording, production and sound engineering was done for vinyl (it was intended to be heard on vinyl) it follows that vinyl is still the most authentic medium to hear it on - as the recording process, production etc. was all geared towards analogue not digital.
Tracks from the '60's & '70's that have been put on CDs quite often sound noticeably different to on the original vinyl. Possibly because the sound engineers that put them together bring modern production values to them - they isolate and bring to the fore a certain instrument for example that was in the background on the original vinyl recording & it can change the whole 'feel' of the track.
I've edited this from yesterday in an attempt to be a bit more succinct.
Jo
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50 minutes ago, LEN said:My Dad was keen on Johnny Mathis - How could I reject that?!
I singled out the vinyl because nowadays there are other options to how people can listen to the sounds - I know taking that bit away from us would be too much, which is understandable because we have the collecting side as an added interest.
If 'The Wigan Young Souls' are doing it our way, then power to em / I personally also say power to anyone young that enjoys the music through what means they choose.
That's my view anyway, I was interested in other peoples' views - Like a post earlier, someone said ten years ago he had a very different view, but now not as bothered if it means the music carries on being enjoyed.
Len
There have been other options to how people can listen to the sounds for years though! (CD's have been around for 30 years now). No other format is as suited to the authentic unadulterated sound of the music as the analogue format it was intended to be heard on though, so maybe that's partly why vinyl has endured all these years & in my opinion will continue to do so. Anyway, an interesting debate that you have started Len, Cheers.
Jo
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22 hours ago, LEN said:That's good, I just can't see many young people being attracted to somewhere where the average age is now 50 - I wasn't mainstream, but I wouldn't want to go anywhere near somewhere when I was that age if my Dad was about!
It looks like if they're on our scene they will carry on the record thing, but if they do something themselves then that's up to them.
Hey ho
Len
Wouldn't the extension of that argument be that they would reject the music their parents were into too, why single out the vinyl (pun unintended)?
I'm your age Len (give or take 1 year) & when I started going to soul do's in the late '80's the majority on the soul scene were at least twice my age, same at the Allnighters in the '90's (when I was in my 20's) but I never found that an issue - & we're still here & the scene hasn't 'died'. Incidentally I was on the mod scene at the same time (where people were around my age) & we were putting on our own mod do's & DJing in our early '20's.
There's the 'Wigan Young Souls' today putting on their own vinyl based do's...
Jo
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15 hours ago, JonnyMonk said:Any social or music scene, regardless of whether it's attendance is from the youngsters or older goers, should retain whatever gives that particular scene integrity shouldn't it? In this particular case, hearing original vinyl and having records always to be discovered is what makes this particular scene interesting, progressive and lends it credibility surely?
Indeed. Well put Jonny.
Its nice to see talented young DJ's like yourself (I noted your name after seeing you do a great R&B/popcorn set at an afternoon session at the Hideaway Club in Manchester a couple of years ago).
Jo
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55 minutes ago, LEN said:I don't think they'd particularly want to, I don't think they would give it much thought (Not being bothered where the sound is coming from)
Records will always be important to us, but if it goes down another route for the younguns so be it
Len
Personally I don't think it will though Len as youngsters attracted to the scene wouldn't be 'mainstream'. I know a few youngsters on the scene in their early '20s & a few who are around 30 & they 'get' the vinyl thing.
Jo
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On 30/01/2016 at 11:38, Twoshoes said:
If listening to Northern on laptops is the way young people get into the music and they grow to love it and keep it alive so be it, I think we maybe do them a disservice assuming they will not progress to wanting to own the actual records
I agree.
Its not that different from accessing the music on a collection of tapes as I did in my teens (in the '80's as I'm sure others will recall, you could buy (unofficial) tapes that record dealers had put together & you could send off for them too, the NME even did a northern compilation tape in conjunction with Kent in mid '80's I seem to recall, & you could tape stuff yourself off specialist radio shows). I had loads of compilation tapes but that didn't stop me for then seeking out the tracks I loved so I could own them on vinyl.
In the same way I don’t think that just because youngsters might listen to everything on mP3 at home or on their phone that this will equate to them wanting to hear everything played off laptops at do’s.
Jo
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On 26/01/2016 at 12:15, LEN said:I was in my office the other day, and I was playing 'Eric Mercury - Lonely Girl' on You Tube (Don't worry I closed the curtains first) As you know, a picture of the record pops up on the computer screen, I said to a young lad that works for me that I would love to own one, but it would cost me well over a grand, if not two....His reply......."Why? It's just there!"........as he pointed at the screen
Len
'Eric Mercury - Lonely Girl'
I'm not sure that the idea of wanting to own a recording on a piece of vinyl and to be able to hold it in your hand is necessarily tied to an age thing. There are many people of different ages who would have the same attitude as that young lad because they don't get it, to be a record collector has always been to be different from the 'norm'.
Jo
Just seen that 'Mtay 9778' 's reply says basically what I was trying to say, but more succinctly!
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On 25/11/2015 16:50:13, SoulBoyRecords said:
Yes agree great choon stupid Lyrics.
On 25/11/2015 16:39:51, rhino said:determination dean parrish -"i would plants some seeds then id watch the flowers grow" now thats determination,numb bum and possibly piles. great record still imho
That's not the lyric? he sings "if I find a patch of earth in the middle of a storm & I decide to plant some seeds there where nothing else has grown, I work [on them with?] powers, until you see some flowers". Brilliant record.
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At the start of the year I set up a small group on Facebook called the European Soul Club Network. The idea was to get a better idea of events a group of soulies over here in the Amsterdam area could look at going to. Unexpectedly, the page took off and it's grown quite a bit and already has a pretty good calendar of European events through to the summer of next year. It's nowhere near comprehensive, but it's made me realise That there are an awful lot of soul nights and nighters going on, with Belgium and Germany being particularly active.
The Netherlands is also becoming more active. Just this Saturday we've got a soul cruise coming over from the UK with a "mini alldayer" taking place in Amsterdam during the day. In the evening we've got the monthly Amsterdam Soul Club event with Pete Lyster as special guest.
It's an increasingly soulful place is mainland Europe!
The Facebook group sounds good Russell, thanks for this I'll take a look. We're hoping to visit the Netherlands in December to go to the Amsterdam Soul Club night.
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I agree Kev,
There was lots going on in and around Manchester and Cheshire at any rate in the late 80's and early 90's. Hyde Soul Club at Hyde Botanical Club is one I remember fondly. Incidentally there was also a good underground mod scene then too.
Jo
It depends where you go Mart, whilst that might be true of some venues, there are still many including our night in Selly Oak that don't resort to that.
Toatly agree kev,and we was hearing good underplayed tunes has the Norm.Now we are back to accommodating the masses with overplayed Motown & Disco Demand oldies,it's not for me.
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to addToatly agree kev,and we was hearing good underplayed tunes has the Norm.Now we are back to accommodating the masses with overplayed Motown & Disco Demand oldies,it's not for me.
It depends where you go Mart. Whilst that might be the case with some venues, there are still many that don't resort to that.
Hi Jim
Sorry, got to disagree, the mid 80,s through early 90's for me was a golden era, plenty going on, it was fantastic because it was defo underground, new discovered sounds to be heard most weeks, no retro circus, just enough venues to keep you occupied most weeks, 100 Club, Mexboro, Swan Mansfield, Shotts Allenton, Blackburn, everyone just moved around a good core of quality venues. Great days
Kev
I agree Kev,
There was lots going on in and around Manchester and Cheshire at any rate in the late 80's and early 90's. Hyde Soul Club at Hyde Botanical Club is one I remember fondly. Incidentally there was also a good underground mod scene then too.
Jo
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Hi Jo, agree with all that. Nice venue, very nice dance floor, good and interesting range of music, easy to find, friendly folk in, nice hosts (Jo and Prin). We had a great night last one and have the next dates in the diary. Well worth a visit. Ray
Thank you for the great feedback and kind comments Ray. Glad you enjoyed the night, we look forward to seeing you at the next Steppin’ Up. Thanks for your support
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Hi, We do the Steppin' Up nights in Selly Oak (a couple of miles from Birmingham city centre), thanks for the mention Maryam btw
. Since Sept 2012 we've put on around 4 a year, roughly every 3 months. We're a northern soul based do that aims to be a bit different and not too commercial, we play northern oldies, uptempo RnB, rare Motown and 60's mod tunes. I've been collecting soul records since my teens (when I lived up in Manchester)and we've both (myself and my husband Prin) been around on both the northern soul and mod scenes since the eighties. We are proud that we get a good mix of people and a friendly atmosphere at Steppin' Up and yes Bournbrook and Selly Oak Social where we hold them has a massive sprung wooden dancefloor! Our dates for this year are on the soul source calendar, we've got one coming up next month...
Thanks Russell. 
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