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    VINCE S reacted to Brav in Promoters Booking Events At Other Promoters Venues. Is This Right?   
    I think Winnie might just stick
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    VINCE S reacted to Chris Burton in Promoters Booking Events At Other Promoters Venues. Is This Right?   
     
     
    Hi Vinny apologies for spelling your name wrong, the kicked out story came from Jez .. See you December 20th, Have a good one   Chris
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    VINCE S reacted to Impact in Promoters Booking Events At Other Promoters Venues. Is This Right?   
    I just try to enjoy the music, not worth getting involved with all the politics. I have been into the scene for about 6 years now and have loved every minute of hearing new sounds day in, day out. Certainly a country mile ahead of any other genre imho. But unfortunately it seems to be a very bitter scene when you read threads like this. As Paul Donnelly states"Life is just a precious moment and time WILL pass you by".
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    VINCE S reacted to Quinvy in Promoters Booking Events At Other Promoters Venues. Is This Right?   
    Well said Paul. This stuff is going on all the time believe me. At one time I was more or less told to change my dates because my nighter was on the same weekend as another that was 120 miles away. Mine was on a Friday night theirs was on the Saturday. I kid you not. And I bloody did it, because if you offend some of these people, they will set everyone against you. 
    I would never promote anything on this scene again. The bitterness and hatred that exists is beyond belief.
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    VINCE S reacted to Paul Dale in Promoters Booking Events At Other Promoters Venues. Is This Right?   
    Hi all, this is Paul Dale as mentioned in Vinny's earlier post and as I've been mentioned and due to the fact that I have also been involved with DJ'ing at the Box over the past few months I felt obliged to make comment, so here goes:-
     
    Firstly, I can confirm that it was Vinny's own decision to leave the Box, I was there and doing a DJ spot at the the time of his departure,  Vinny came on stage to collect his records  we had brief chat and he explained his personal reasons for leaving the event, he was definitely not kicked out of the venue in anyway, shape or form, it was purely his decision to leave on the day and that was Vinny's choice!
     
    Secondly, I was also there on the Sunday afternoon that Chris B visited the venue and from what I saw he certainly seemed receive a warm welcome and due respect from everyone that was in the event on that afternoon. However, as I have not been involved with any of the direct discussions that have taken place with Chris, Jez or the venue owner  then I'm not really in a position to comment on any of those conversations or issues.
     
    Thirdly, I would like to say that in my opinion the Box is a really good venue and one that is really well suited to host Northern Soul sessions, it has the look and feel of true music venue with a superb sound system and a decent dance floor as well. There are now two rooms in operation and also let's not forget that there are also a lot of loyal supporters who turn up to the event every month so it must be doing something right!. There are a lots of positive points about this venue and i feel that these need to be mentioned as most of the other comments on here seem to be on the negative side which i just cannot understand why this should be. 
     
    Finally, can i just say that this is still a great scene to be part of and one that has truly stood the test of time, let's try and get back to the positive side of things and forget all of the negatives! 
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    VINCE S got a reaction from AndyG in Promoters Booking Events At Other Promoters Venues. Is This Right?   

    Hi Chris my name is vinny by the way not Winnie lol...the proud founder of the box Crewe and was former promoter who did all of the work and booked all the DJs etc and hardly made any money for all this shit not like you greedy big fookers....   Now then you have bought my name into this why I wonder....You talk of an ill campaign against you lol you need talk Chris ...you know the truth why I left the box in the conversation we had at my cousins factory colin pulizzi the one who sells tickets for you .... 2 months ago etc as I told you to your face in front of him why I left the box it was regarding something personal... I hope soul stew Jez Jones,s  son in law Paul dale  ... Plus I also hope the other Djs I booked and the people / friends that know the TRUE score come on here and confirm I walked out due to my personal life by which I was totally humiliated by a certain few people the cheating the shite politics and backstabbing which has ruined this scene and made most of us fall out and enemies...so now as for you to put on here that I got KICKED OUT of the box ! Chris is totally out of order ! as well as a total lie and for the record I was asked by the owner of the box Ray brucez to start another Sunday / event on my own with a new team etc 2 days after I WALKED OUT on the Sunday session 3months ago
    before you lol ...but I never even replied back to him ... As due to him ray the owner and jez Jones conspiring I would never walk back in the place again regarding issues on who I let in the venue and regarding my personal life as I said before etc ... I'm a believer that the promoter has the right to refuse admission! But moving on  I'm sorry to say even though I will miss it and most of the great crowd that attended from all over the uk...it is a great unique authentic venue  which I am proud of to have found and started....And as for Certain promoters who fookin think they are God and think there event is the greatest in the world way above others with some certain Djs who were no where 5 years ago lol should know better by trying to rubbish the box and another promoter/s venues etc ...well that one word comes to mind and speaks for itself?..but on the positive side lets  just say from now on for me I dictate my own decisions and events on my own with no interference from no one.... With new future events to come  I would also like to add for the record that these certain so called top Djs were wanting to do a spot at the box always and were raving over it always how good it was but were eventually nudged to stop djing for us by a certain top promoter as it was getting very popular but these so called top Djs will never be needed by me again there's loads better out there lol he can keep em and always remember what goes around will always come around ! merry Xmas to all and hopefully peace ..... By the way Chris did a certain Someone tell you about the floral hall in TUNSTALL too that I was going to book it for a Sunday session 7 mths ago before you lol mmmmmmmm I wonder   ... Hope to see you at the cobridge t/a. s o t allnighter sat dec 20th with your flyers   ... regards vince
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    VINCE S reacted to gordon russell in Too Many Venues   
    yep  always makes me laugh  when someone pops out of the woodwork  spends a year or so doing the following    1collecting the big stuff 2attending everywhere he may think he fits in and gladhanding all and sundry,3 tells us everywhere he goes is great (wether it is or not) bigging up the dj,s ect   so he can get some spots.....then lastly  when he gets no spots........usually after about 2-1/2 years......he looses his mojo and sells his tunes never to be seen again............never occurs to these people to just go OUT and enjoy
     
    As far as too many venues   there could be a million.......l go to 3 or 4 predominately,regardless what else is on on that night........as l,ll wager do most
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    VINCE S reacted to dimples in Turley Richards   
    Jimmy James & the Vagabonds do the original of this tune. I find amazing the prices Turley Richards commands compared to the Vagaboos totally overlooked british Soul.
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    VINCE S reacted to Labeat in Is The Twisted Wheel   
    dB121.... i'd love to go back to the Torch but sadly it got demolished
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    VINCE S reacted to Maark in Dates/ Clashing Birthday Parties.. Bla Bla   
     
    I did just that! I wanted to mark rather than have a huge celebration when I turned 50 so I wanted a lively soul night local to where I live and as close to my birthday as possible. This happened to be the Cream Cracker Soul club which at the time held it's nights at Rothwell football ground in Northants. I approached the promoter, Kev Such, and he was more than accomodating. I helped raise some money for Kev's charity on the night, my guests (some non soulies) got in for free, everyone was happy.
     
    Best of all, if It had been shite I could then have blamed Kev.
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    VINCE S reacted to LilJimmyCrank in Dates/ Clashing Birthday Parties.. Bla Bla   
    Always thought this Steve, especially the birthday thing. If it's someone's 50th/.60th and they're big into the scene, why not just approach your favorite and already established soul event/promoter to absorb the bday celebrations.
    Theyve already got the venue, playing the music you love, got the dates pencilled in, probably already got a lot of your mates going to it who you'd have invited anyway etc
    Would take a lot of the hassle out of planning.
     
    Im sure the promoter wouldnt mind either, probably bump their numbers up!!
     
    The charity do's could try the same thing. I know there's a lot more said on the microphone for charity do's (raffle announcements and the like) but there's easy ways to keep that to a minimum. Everyone would be a winner (promoter gains more numbers, as does the charity in terms of cash generated)!
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    VINCE S reacted to soulontop in Monopoly On Clubs?   
     
    I think you find i didnt mention anybodys names so calm ya sen down a bit.
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    VINCE S reacted to soulontop in Monopoly On Clubs?   
    Gonna stick my nose in now. Whatever issues somebody has dont post it on a public forum
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    VINCE S reacted to LEN in Monopoly On Clubs?   
     
    Well said mate. I'm also finding it interesting - This threads situation is purely and simply someone wanting to hire a venue to celebrate their Birthdays (Happy Birthday btw) which it seems, unfortunately resulted in confrontation when a nice chat would have sorted it.
     
    Putting the Birthday Party situation to one side for a moment (and to streeeetch the thread out as long as humanly possible)  - looking back over a number of years, no one would dream of approaching a venue to hold a Soul event that was already being used for that reason by somebody else - That person has the Soul events covered there.
     
    'Defensive' is the correct word, as in to defend the event by 'batting off' anything that would effect it - this especially includes someone else putting on another event because doing so  'muddies the water', and worse could confuse the punters when they are not the same 'product' (Worries being that this second person's event could put people off going back to the first persons event) That 'defence' was never needed a few years ago - there was a lot more communication between promoters about dates - Nowadays, there's a lot more promoters, and less communication (or burying ones head in the sand!)
     
    All the best,
     
    Len  
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    VINCE S reacted to LEN in Monopoly On Clubs?   
    If someone is already using the venue, I personally think the done thing is to speak to them first, and maybe ask if they can incorporate your wishes in an event (or work together at least) It isn't a matter of being a baby, it is a matter of respect (and I don't mean in a contrived way) I have had this situation many times over the years, and it just so happens, the said peope have approached me before the venue because they were aware it was the venue I use, and every time, I returned that respect (consideration more so) by working together, and helping as much as I could.
     
    There's more to it than 'throwing ones dummy out'  
     
    No offence intended - That is the way I see it, and best of luck with your event mate. If what I say happens to make you have a rethink and you approach the said promoter with this in mind, I bet you they will do everything they can to help you - It's so much nicer
     
    All the best,
     
    Len  
     
    P.s - Also good luck with raising money for Charity (obviously), but that doesn't make any difference to how I think things should be approached  
     
    P.p.s - It's a shame the person in question was rude to you, as you seem like the kind of person who would understand his objections, if spoken to properly, and no doubt would have sorted something amicably there and then - Good luck mate  
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    VINCE S reacted to little-stevie in Dates/ Clashing Birthday Parties.. Bla Bla   
    With so many events and little room in the diary for extra events... I always plan a birthday bash around an established event...
     
    There are so many coming of age birthday events, 40/50/60/65 etc... Many of these for established people on the scene with many friends.... They will invite many people who are on the soul scene.. If they hold a big soul event on its own, then its a clash with regular events, this could and does affect established promotions... I have seen many birthday bash/ charity  soul events set up that in the same area that clash with a local event,the birthday bash/ charity event invites most of the people from the established event... Then you have two events chasing the same punters and people falling out over it......
     
    This is happening more and more and some thought needs to go into it or we will have the problem come up again and again.... " oh its only a birthday or charity event ", maybe it is but its northern soul event too, just like the one round the corner or in the same area, it does and will always get some folks backs up....
     
    Adding a birthday bash/ charity event to established event/ maybe a second room or longer event ( all dayer ), its a win win and big fest, ha ha....
     
    Just a thought...
     
    Peace x
     
     
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    VINCE S got a reaction from LEN in Monopoly On Clubs?   
    they are not bulling tacticts at all carmen whatever issues you have with me as they are so obviouse for all to see i would like to know please as i dont know you and you dont know me theres a courtesy and proper way  of trying to get a venue for whatever reason especially when your promoters when someones already in it ask nige or better still kr he will tell you
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    VINCE S got a reaction from dedji1955 in Monopoly On Clubs?   
    well folks i feel as i need to reply as with due respect there are always TWO SIDES to a story so here goes... on sat night i was at the box trying to sort a few more dates out and doing a wedding as a favour for the owner!! then when the bar manager said to me there are some people who want a northern soul night at the box for for a birthday party and 300 to 400 people!and wanted djs... i asked who and he gave me a name shiela barnett and tel no and was told to ring, so i rang  and shiela answered by the way i dont know sheila or derek barnett at all or ever have seen them at all!                  i explained i was vinny one of the promoters at the box and offered her the venue and to supply the djs as i thought correct   ... i was abruptly stopped by her saying we have our own djs and are fussy about using other djs which perplexed me a bit but in no way was i rude whatsoever i was then told that they were promoters or had been and used to run bury masonic and that her husband was a dj too ...thats when i though hey ho here we go! ...     i then said to sheila that it would have been common courtesy as promoters/djs to ask the said current promoter/s first as we have built this venue out of nothing with a lot of hard work to make it one of the uks popular venues along with the best of the best in our  opinion and by fellow uk promoters and djs alike but most importantly by most  of our followers! and not for some other PROMOTER to MUSCLE in with there DJs and advertise THE BOX for there own ends and for us to have no say in it...I DONT THINK SO!!  DONT I/WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND PROTECT OUR VENUE AS PROMOTERS ffs... then sheila  said to me are you serious why should we ask you i said again you dont ! it just would have been nice if you did! then they said that they were going to do a charity event when i asked what it was for i was told to mind my own buisness as it didnt have anything to do with me fair enough i thought ...so i told her sheila or derek i cant remember which one AS I WAS SO WOUND UP to do one which on  looking back i perhaps shouldnt have  , i then ended the call there and then ten minutes later i looked at my phone and had a miss call off the same number i quickly put an abba mix on at the wedding and went outside i rang back and her husband derek i assume answered he informed me that it was going ahead and that he was coming to view the venue on the morrow sunday i told him it wasnt going to happen as i was angry how they went about things and being promoters themselves and on here too on ss they knew in my opinion that we put soul events on at the box as they have been advertised for over 2 years ... then i recieved a text saying i was abnoxious and that a load of there friends would be boycotting the box  that me and our cronie djs only wanted to dj there lol that was when enough was enough and i showed the text messeges to the owner who decided to not let them have it as i and my co promoters who i informed were not happy as well... now here comes the sting in the tale ... sheila still claims on here that she and derek didnt know about the box and who ran it... OH BUT YOU DID SHEILA AND DEREK BECAUSE YOU ASKED A FRIEND OF OURS LAST WEEK WHO IS A CO PROMOTER/DJ WHO RUNS A WELL ESTABLISHED EVENT IN MANCHESTER...YOU ASKED HIM DID HE KNOW OF ANY VENUES BETWEEN SHREWSBURY AND MANCHESTER AND HE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE BOX WHERE HE DEEJAYD FOR US ON OUR LAST SOUL SESSION..HE TOLD YOU TO ASK VINNY AND JEZ THEY WILL SORT YOU OUT!! HE TOLD ME THIS MORNING ON THE PHONE SO IF YOU WANT TO CALL HIM A LIAR PLEASE DO YOU KNOW WHO HE IS I WONT NAME HIM HOPEFULLY HE WILL COME ON HERE AND TELL THE TRUTH AS I KNOW THEY WILL BE READING THIS !
    my parting shot to you both is thankyou for publicly slating me when all i tried to do as any other promoter would do with BALLS was not let you have our venue by trying to bypass us and your attitude and i hope those that know the real true facts  will reply on here and tell you the same!! and for the record if you are still struggling for a venue please feel free to ring me and ask me/us in the  correct manner and i will do all i can to make it happen for your birthday parties and charity event whether we dj or not and whatever you choose to do good luck with your event best vince

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    VINCE S got a reaction from dedji1955 in Monopoly On Clubs?   
    well folks i feel as i need to reply as with due respect there are always TWO SIDES to a story so here goes... on sat night i was at the box trying to sort a few more dates out and doing a wedding as a favour for the owner!! then when the bar manager said to me there are some people who want a northern soul night at the box for for a birthday party and 300 to 400 people!and wanted djs... i asked who and he gave me a name shiela barnett and tel no and was told to ring, so i rang  and shiela answered by the way i dont know sheila or derek barnett at all or ever have seen them at all!                  i explained i was vinny one of the promoters at the box and offered her the venue and to supply the djs as i thought correct   ... i was abruptly stopped by her saying we have our own djs and are fussy about using other djs which perplexed me a bit but in no way was i rude whatsoever i was then told that they were promoters or had been and used to run bury masonic and that her husband was a dj too ...thats when i though hey ho here we go! ...     i then said to sheila that it would have been common courtesy as promoters/djs to ask the said current promoter/s first as we have built this venue out of nothing with a lot of hard work to make it one of the uks popular venues along with the best of the best in our  opinion and by fellow uk promoters and djs alike but most importantly by most  of our followers! and not for some other PROMOTER to MUSCLE in with there DJs and advertise THE BOX for there own ends and for us to have no say in it...I DONT THINK SO!!  DONT I/WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND PROTECT OUR VENUE AS PROMOTERS ffs... then sheila  said to me are you serious why should we ask you i said again you dont ! it just would have been nice if you did! then they said that they were going to do a charity event when i asked what it was for i was told to mind my own buisness as it didnt have anything to do with me fair enough i thought ...so i told her sheila or derek i cant remember which one AS I WAS SO WOUND UP to do one which on  looking back i perhaps shouldnt have  , i then ended the call there and then ten minutes later i looked at my phone and had a miss call off the same number i quickly put an abba mix on at the wedding and went outside i rang back and her husband derek i assume answered he informed me that it was going ahead and that he was coming to view the venue on the morrow sunday i told him it wasnt going to happen as i was angry how they went about things and being promoters themselves and on here too on ss they knew in my opinion that we put soul events on at the box as they have been advertised for over 2 years ... then i recieved a text saying i was abnoxious and that a load of there friends would be boycotting the box  that me and our cronie djs only wanted to dj there lol that was when enough was enough and i showed the text messeges to the owner who decided to not let them have it as i and my co promoters who i informed were not happy as well... now here comes the sting in the tale ... sheila still claims on here that she and derek didnt know about the box and who ran it... OH BUT YOU DID SHEILA AND DEREK BECAUSE YOU ASKED A FRIEND OF OURS LAST WEEK WHO IS A CO PROMOTER/DJ WHO RUNS A WELL ESTABLISHED EVENT IN MANCHESTER...YOU ASKED HIM DID HE KNOW OF ANY VENUES BETWEEN SHREWSBURY AND MANCHESTER AND HE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE BOX WHERE HE DEEJAYD FOR US ON OUR LAST SOUL SESSION..HE TOLD YOU TO ASK VINNY AND JEZ THEY WILL SORT YOU OUT!! HE TOLD ME THIS MORNING ON THE PHONE SO IF YOU WANT TO CALL HIM A LIAR PLEASE DO YOU KNOW WHO HE IS I WONT NAME HIM HOPEFULLY HE WILL COME ON HERE AND TELL THE TRUTH AS I KNOW THEY WILL BE READING THIS !
    my parting shot to you both is thankyou for publicly slating me when all i tried to do as any other promoter would do with BALLS was not let you have our venue by trying to bypass us and your attitude and i hope those that know the real true facts  will reply on here and tell you the same!! and for the record if you are still struggling for a venue please feel free to ring me and ask me/us in the  correct manner and i will do all i can to make it happen for your birthday parties and charity event whether we dj or not and whatever you choose to do good luck with your event best vince

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    VINCE S got a reaction from Bearsy in Monopoly On Clubs?   
    over 2 years
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    VINCE S got a reaction from dedji1955 in Monopoly On Clubs?   
    well folks i feel as i need to reply as with due respect there are always TWO SIDES to a story so here goes... on sat night i was at the box trying to sort a few more dates out and doing a wedding as a favour for the owner!! then when the bar manager said to me there are some people who want a northern soul night at the box for for a birthday party and 300 to 400 people!and wanted djs... i asked who and he gave me a name shiela barnett and tel no and was told to ring, so i rang  and shiela answered by the way i dont know sheila or derek barnett at all or ever have seen them at all!                  i explained i was vinny one of the promoters at the box and offered her the venue and to supply the djs as i thought correct   ... i was abruptly stopped by her saying we have our own djs and are fussy about using other djs which perplexed me a bit but in no way was i rude whatsoever i was then told that they were promoters or had been and used to run bury masonic and that her husband was a dj too ...thats when i though hey ho here we go! ...     i then said to sheila that it would have been common courtesy as promoters/djs to ask the said current promoter/s first as we have built this venue out of nothing with a lot of hard work to make it one of the uks popular venues along with the best of the best in our  opinion and by fellow uk promoters and djs alike but most importantly by most  of our followers! and not for some other PROMOTER to MUSCLE in with there DJs and advertise THE BOX for there own ends and for us to have no say in it...I DONT THINK SO!!  DONT I/WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND PROTECT OUR VENUE AS PROMOTERS ffs... then sheila  said to me are you serious why should we ask you i said again you dont ! it just would have been nice if you did! then they said that they were going to do a charity event when i asked what it was for i was told to mind my own buisness as it didnt have anything to do with me fair enough i thought ...so i told her sheila or derek i cant remember which one AS I WAS SO WOUND UP to do one which on  looking back i perhaps shouldnt have  , i then ended the call there and then ten minutes later i looked at my phone and had a miss call off the same number i quickly put an abba mix on at the wedding and went outside i rang back and her husband derek i assume answered he informed me that it was going ahead and that he was coming to view the venue on the morrow sunday i told him it wasnt going to happen as i was angry how they went about things and being promoters themselves and on here too on ss they knew in my opinion that we put soul events on at the box as they have been advertised for over 2 years ... then i recieved a text saying i was abnoxious and that a load of there friends would be boycotting the box  that me and our cronie djs only wanted to dj there lol that was when enough was enough and i showed the text messeges to the owner who decided to not let them have it as i and my co promoters who i informed were not happy as well... now here comes the sting in the tale ... sheila still claims on here that she and derek didnt know about the box and who ran it... OH BUT YOU DID SHEILA AND DEREK BECAUSE YOU ASKED A FRIEND OF OURS LAST WEEK WHO IS A CO PROMOTER/DJ WHO RUNS A WELL ESTABLISHED EVENT IN MANCHESTER...YOU ASKED HIM DID HE KNOW OF ANY VENUES BETWEEN SHREWSBURY AND MANCHESTER AND HE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE BOX WHERE HE DEEJAYD FOR US ON OUR LAST SOUL SESSION..HE TOLD YOU TO ASK VINNY AND JEZ THEY WILL SORT YOU OUT!! HE TOLD ME THIS MORNING ON THE PHONE SO IF YOU WANT TO CALL HIM A LIAR PLEASE DO YOU KNOW WHO HE IS I WONT NAME HIM HOPEFULLY HE WILL COME ON HERE AND TELL THE TRUTH AS I KNOW THEY WILL BE READING THIS !
    my parting shot to you both is thankyou for publicly slating me when all i tried to do as any other promoter would do with BALLS was not let you have our venue by trying to bypass us and your attitude and i hope those that know the real true facts  will reply on here and tell you the same!! and for the record if you are still struggling for a venue please feel free to ring me and ask me/us in the  correct manner and i will do all i can to make it happen for your birthday parties and charity event whether we dj or not and whatever you choose to do good luck with your event best vince

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    VINCE S reacted to wiganer1 in Winstanley's Disoveries?   
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    whats the difference white pop soul or black rock and roll (the worse side of rnb i may add!)

    sorry Russ is my hero in terms of most of the stuff he played at wigan and ive got to stick up for him

    regards mark

    champion of the underdog!!
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    VINCE S reacted to wiganer1 in Winstanley's Disoveries?   
    it cud ave been worse joe - he could have discovered some shit Rnb!!!!
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    VINCE S reacted to Ted Massey in The Perfect Allnighter?   
    He put the same post on face book what a different set of answers he has received
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    VINCE S reacted to jocko in The Perfect Allnighter?   
    Oh good, another Kev Roberts convert here to promote Stoke.

    Put the lights off as you leave please.....


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