Davekd

My 14 year old has looted my Harrington and 54-46 T shirt so far, with the words 'vintage is in' lol

Addidas bags and Fred Perry's buttoned up to the neck very common amongst the teenagers down here.

Dave

Good year for me Soul-wise, with a great trip out to the Valencia weekender with all the DJ's scaling the hights but Maria and Carl Willingham really smashing it and new friends made.

Been privalidged to have been at some great nights at Solid Hit Soul in London - top tunes from residents and guests.

Enjoyed Soul nights all across London.

Looking forward to going to Rimini and Lifeline for the first time this year and hopefully back to Valencia again.

Well pleased as well to have been asked to do a few guest DJ spots and ad a real blast doing them.

Actually managed to buy some long time wants as well.

Dave

She did. They toured together for 3/4 years (late 40's / early 50's) & even recorded together -- they performed gospel stuff as would be expected.

I skirted over much of her gospel period but did make a mention of this ..............

.... In 1950, together with Rosetta Tharpe, she sang before an audience of thousands of gospel fans at a big show in Washington.

Thanks - will have to revisit that doc - Rosetta Tharpe's guitar playing in particular mind blowing

Thought I saw on a BBC4 documentary that she also hung around with Sister Rosetta Tharpe in the 50's?

Dave

Really Dave? Seems to me like a hall is there for public entertainment - unless it's some kind of Quakers meeting house or something - and equipment goes hand in hand with such entertainment. But insurers small print never ceases to amaze me!

I'm afraid so mate - if you are providing equipment theoretically it is the venues responsibilty to ensure it is safe and installed safely but if they make sure you have insurance, then they have partly covered thier responsibility. Someone trips over your speaker cable - they sue the venue, the venue's insurers come after yours. If you can prove you safely taped down the cables, made sure people were aware of the cable (hazard tape not gaffer), then it may be ruled a simple accident.

Insurers often insert these clauses not only as protection but as a way to reduce premiums to the venue - insurance for a venue will be cheaper if they confirm all people providing outside services have thier own insurance.

It seems mad but logical in this sueing culture we have developed - it's only a matter of time I am sure that DJ's providing equipment will have to issue a Risk Assessment and get it signed off by the venue!

Oh and remember if your equipment isnt PAT tested and someone is electrocuted (even through no fault of your own), your own insurance could be invalid.

It never ends and will only get worse.

Happy Days.

Dave

ps - I'm not in insurance but have to deal with insurers in construction, which is a real minefield lol

Watch it Chris, they'll already have Liability insurance unless they are complete nutters; what they are asking you to do is get additional coverage to protect theirs in the event of someone falling over on the talc.

Steve, although the venue will already have Public Liability thye will want the DJ to if they are bringing in thier own equipemnt, so if someone is electrocuted, trips over a speaker cable, speaker falls on their head etc, it is down to the DJ. Alot of insurers will have this sort of thing as a small print exclusion on a venues policy (nice isnt it).

Dave

FYI I've had quotes from £150 to £250...................

Chris - I think that's quite cheap - last time I got paid for a full private party, equipment, lights (my tunes) insurance etc I got £350.00 and they thought that a bargain.

Dave

Some nice stuff there, well done

Thanks mate - it was fun

Marc - try PM'ing someone like Mike Cook on here - he lives down on Plymouth and should know what's what.

Dave

My playlist from the Alldayer (Saturday 28th September)

First Set

Billy Butler — Found True Love — Okeh

The Gee's — It's All Over — Port

Sandy & the Pebbles — He's My Kind of Fellow — Mercury

The Gospel Classics — More Love, That's What We Want — Checker

Johnny Bartel — If This Isn't Love — Solid State

The Ambassadors — Good Love Gone Bad — Atlantic

The Volumes — Gotta Give Her Love — American Arts

The Young Folk — Lonely Girl — Mar-V-Lus

The Echoes — Million Dollar Bill — Pulse

Vala Reegan & the Valarons — Fireman

Martha Jean Love — Don't Want You to Leave Me — ABC-Paramount

Joyce Bennett — The New Boy — Jaguar

Cookin' on 3 Burners — This Girl - Freestyle

Second Set (following on from an R&B DJ)

Ike and Tina Turner — He's the One — Kent

Etta James — Breaking Point — Argo

Little Rose Little — You've Got the Love — Roulette

The Servicemen — I Need a Helping Hand — Pathway

Ethics — Look at Me Now — Vent

The Incredibles — Another Dirty Deal — Audio Arts

Jack Montgomery — My Dear Beloved — Scepter

Mill Evans — Why Why Why — King

Bob Collins and the Fabulous Five — Inventory on Heartaches — Main Line

The Festivals — Music — Smash

The Ethics — I Want my Baby Back — Vent

The Mighty Marvellows — Talkin' About Ya, Baby — ABC

The Royal Esquires — Ain't Gonna Run — Prix

The Blues Groove — I Believe in You — Verve

Jean Battle — I've Got to Come In — Clintone

The Dells — It's All Up to You — Cadet

Bobby Cutchins — I Did it Again — Lasso

Willie Hutch — Love Games - RCA

I think it is a requirement but only if you are providing the equipement i.e. if someone gets hurt in any way, it's down to you. I've got 10 million that cost 50quid a year. PM me and I'll dig out the details.

BTW PAT testing if it's your kit is also a good idea if only to protect yourself.

Dave

Any playlists anywhere?

If you go on to events upcoming weekenders Dani has posted the last 4 years of his playlists at The Big Thing in Valencia, which might help.

Dave

On a much smaller scale I've been watching Eddie Holman I Surrender on e-bay over the last couple of months - there are loads of them with one or two coming up every week, but still selling for anything between 50 and 75quid, mental with that many copies for sale, let alone available elsewhere.

Dave

Hi Steve yes I remember doing the comp and was asked to put a few tracks down for this film i had mixed thought's about what to do so i thought sod it i'll put some of me fav tracks at the time I'd got a massive hangover and had , had a terrible weekend djing I'd played the royal esquires (before the big find) ,soul bros inc (teadrops) and the emit track and some others and had emptied the floor I even had a well known dj from Nottingham boo me .so i thought oh bollocks I'll stick them on anyway I'm trying to find a copie of the box set and c.d for Paula but can't find one oh well if it helped to expose a few thing's to the opened minded people I'm pleased about that .I may play it at skeggy in the rare room to see what happens best regards Simon.

Nice tunes, really enjoyed that CD - thanks

hiya just seen one on e.bay a demo

Nice one thanks, will keep an eye on that,

Cheers,

Dave

Looking for a copy of this on Tangerine -doesnt have to be mint.

Cheers,

Dave

Thanks guys, I heard it played at Soulgate this year and it blew me away.

I think the £25 - £35 is about right for the Tangerine issue - massive value for money.

Thanls again for the help,

Dave

Anybody got an idea what this is going for on Tangerine?

Quite fancy it.

Thanks,

Dave

There is quite a thriving scene over in Spain, I believe - regular weekenders and nighters - Euro Ye Ye in August, Valencia in September and Bilbao in October plus regular clubs like the Boiler, Movin' On etc.

There sees to be a hardcore who will attend all these events and travel abroad as well (I have friends from the Basque country who I first met at Hipshaker on the Isle of Whight with thier scooters and then again at Valencia, who are coming over to the uk for a weekender in Brighton).

Most seem to be 'younger' into the Mod/Skinhead look and are friendly and welcoming.

The events range from 100% Northern, R&B (Boiler) or more Modern (Movin' On) and they seem happy to embrace all these genres. I missed a nighter in Madrid as well (I happened to over for work in Bilbao but my friends advised me not to go on to Madrid as it would be completely sold out and packed to the rafters.

They certainly throw themselves into the nights I have been to, dancing from the moment they get in right to the end - they all seem to know the tunes as well (even though they are young lol).

There also is a hardcore of 'proper' OVO DJ's out there who know how to put a set together - At the last Valencia weekender, guests were Mick H, Adi Croasdale, Marc Forrest and John Parker but the three locals Dani Herranz, Albert Petit and Sergio Vivas (I think), more than held their own with these guys.

There are other nights in Spain as well - Mojacar etc but I've not been, so not sure.

There is also a scene in Italy with All Nighters in Rome and a regular club in Pisa - I've not gone over yet but was really impressed with an Italian DJ Barbara Grossi (at least I think she's Italian) - cracking tunes - I would guess there's more Mod/Scooter stuff going on over there.

Sorry I dont know much of the history I'm afraid, but get yourself over there!

Cheers,

Dave

Dave Greenhill, Tony Smith, Des Parker

The Boiler Club in Barcelona is the place, although a bit heavy on the R&B but surely they will all be at Euro Ye Ye this weekend?

Dave

Love the album

I can understand why promoters/residents etc pick guests who guest elsewhere as they usually pick them because they think they are right for their venue and they know that said DJ's will do a good job as they have a proven track record.

Same thing goes for picking people who run or are resident at other (nearby?) venues - they normally know what sort of thing they are going to play and how well they DJ.

When I helped run a club in London, early on we had a couple of awkward experiences by letting people DJ who asked us - they turned out to be not very good, so we stopped doing it. Not a pleasant thing to do to have to tell someone that you can't give them a set because you make it a rule to only book people with a proven track record and records.

How to get DJ sets when you are not known is always a quandary. Who is going to ask someone to guest when they haven't got much experience? Starting up a night neatly solves the problem - you get to play your records every month. The only other option is for people to book their mates but IMHO that doesn't add much to a night unless said mate has an under the radar incredible collection and knows how to play records in some sort of order that doesn't have people getting up and sitting down again all the way through their set.

Easy to see why most guests are well known and why people also book residents from other nearby clubs. A known quantity is normally much better than taking a chance on someone.

If you want to do the latter though - gizza set?

Agree with this entirely, but also dont mind taking a chance on someone completely new either but usually like them to have actually been to the night before.

I do wonder what most of the negative posters actually expect promoters to do - book DJ's the've never heard of, book only from a chosen list, book DJ's who are unsuitable for thier club but are approved by the negative posters, book DJ's they can't afford, book only DJ's who can't be bothered to come to thier club but have good tunes?

Dave

Hi Dave,

Horses for courses. London is a complete mish mash of scenes, sub cultures, mutual DJ back-scratching et al. There is so much on, there isn't to use Phil's expression a "focal point venue" at all - just various micro-scenes with some limited crossover of DJs and punters. There are loads of venues most people have never been to, and always a new one starting up somewhere with some sub-set or other. I personally am not familiar with some of the younger gigs like the newish thing at the Boston Arms or the gig that Wiggy was championing in EC1 - never heard of it before. Then again loking at the playlists, I'm not going to be going either. Last "new" gig I went to was Marco's when Butch was on which was very good.

Contrast that with someone who lives say in Devon, Aberdeen or Norfolk - they are lucky if they have one venue a quarter to go to within reasonable (1-2 hour) distance.

So I guess what I am saying is the scene fragmented totally into a range of clubs, all of which will have their day and inevitably fade out over time.

All of which of course is a million miles away from the topic of this thread.....

Hello mate,

Yes I suppose at only 8 years into the scene, loads of stuff is still new to me, so still enjoying getting out there - I usually go with its either good, bad or indifferent in terms of the tunes as opposed to oldie, newie etc.

You are right there are loads of little fragmented scenes here and sometimes quite odd to step into them.

It does occour to me that some tunes are also regional - rare in the South but common elsewhere and visa versa.

Dave

You are wrong and makes me wonder just how you came to the above from what I said?

Anyone can see from the calendar alone that by and large there are too many venues.

I don't care what he policy is or what the format the DJs will be playing there are far too many.

I've lookked on occasion at e event calendar and within an hour of me some weekends there have been 30,40 and at least once 50 events over the weekend. If that is good for the scene then Christ knows how bad it has to get before it has a detrimental effect on the scene.

Many venues are suffering with attendances, especially in today's economic climate so wouldn't it make sense to do away with some events and have one or two decent events with a full house and great atmosphere no matter what the policy or format of the music?

40 events within an hour of me, you could lose at least 30 of them and have decent events to suit all tastes and still give everyone a choice!

Of course there will be areas where this won't be the case and there is a reasonably healthy local scene but these are few and far between.

It is time for some promoters and some DJs to stop being so selfish and look at the bigger picture, for the good of everyone , all IMO of course. It is time folk got their heads together or banged together

Right ok understand now, apologies for picking you up wrong there. Like Steve says I suppose London is it's own little environment and not particulaly relevant to whats going on elsewhere. 40 events within an hour is mental.

Dave