Russ Vickers Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) We all know & love the classics from the Golden era & they are well documented on the whole, even the tunes played during the 8ts, after the tourists had left the scene for dead, when the REAL die hard's kept the scene alive & vibrant with a twist have become classics & in many cases been revived over the last 10 - 15 years & enjoyed almost like newies again by the returnees that missed them first time around, but what are the classic tunes POST Stafford etc, we are constantly told nothing could compare with the discoveries from the Golden Era, but I disagree & wondered what your classics from the scenes more recent history (comparitively speaking) are or maybe you feel there arnt any discoveries from this period that can be considered classics. Here's a few from me: Jimmy Bo Horne - I Just Cant Speak - Dade Fortsom & Scott - Sweet Lover - Pzazz Parliments-This is my rainy day-Cabel Hamilton Movement-She's Gone-Look-Out Vanguards-Good Times, Bad Times-Lamp Johnny Praye-Cant Get Too Much Love-Sidewalk Trannels-Im Blessed With a Love-Flo Jo Barons of Soul-You Need Love Lil Major Williams-Girl Don't Leave Me/Girl Your So Sweet-Paladium/Williams 111 Walter & the Admerations-Man o Man-La Cindy Carla Thomas-Never Stop Loving You True Image-I'm Not Over You-Super Smash Camaros - We're Not Too Young - D'ar Cha Soul Incorporated - My Proposal-Coconut Groove Mello Souls - We Can Make It - Mello Hyperions - Why you wanna treat me - Chattahoochie Annabel Fox-Lonely Girl-Satin Chuck Cockerham-Have I the Right-Mala Barbara Lynne-Moovin' On a Groove-Jetstream Ruby Andrews-Just Loving You-Zodiac Jesse James- love is all right-Shirley Joey Delorenzo-Wake Up To The Sunshine Girl- Mi Val All the unissued RCA from Ady Ben E King-Give It To Me Cody Black-Its Our Time To Fall In Love-Gig Eddie Billups-Ask My Heart-Peachtree Potentiall loads more...........so what are your post Stafford era tunes, you feel deserve classic status ???????????? Russ Edited August 29, 2008 by Russ Vickers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Wow, great thread Russ, will mull over this tomorrow- was a bit surprised to see the JD in there, but we are not going to agree on all so maybe good idea to just accentuate the positive on this one, there are loads and since I am always banging on about it, would be good to put some up. Need to go to bed but I will be back tomorrow........ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 We all know & love the classics from the Golden era & they are well documented on the whole, even the tunes played during the 8ts, after the tourists had left the scene for dead, when the REAL die hard's kept the scene alive & vibrant with a twist have become classics & in many cases been revived over the last 10 - 15 years & enjoyed almost like newies again by the returnees that missed them first time around, but what are the classic tunes POST Stafford etc, we are constantly told nothing could compare with the discoveries from the Golden Era, but I disagree & wondered what your classics from the scenes more recent history (comparitively speaking) are or maybe you feel there arnt any discoveries from this period that can be considered classics. Here's a few from me: Jimmy Bo Horne - I Just Cant Speak - Dade Fortsom & Scott - Sweet Lover - Pzazz Parliments-This is my rainy day-Cabel Hamilton Movement-She's Gone-Look-Out Vanguards-Good Times, Bad Times-Lamp Johnny Praye-Cant Get Too Much Love-Sidewalk Trannels-Im Blessed With a Love-Flo Jo Barons of Soul-You Need Love Lil Major Williams-Girl Don't Leave Me/Girl Your So Sweet-Paladium/Williams 111 Walter & the Admerations-Man o Man-La Cindy Carla Thomas-Never Stop Loving You True Image-I'm Not Over You-Super Smash Camaros - We're Not Too Young - D'ar Cha Soul Incorporated - My Proposal-Coconut Groove Mello Souls - We Can Make It - Mello Hyperions - Why you wanna treat me - Chattahoochie Annabel Fox-Lonely Girl-Satin Chuck Cockerham-Have I the Right-Mala Barbara Lynne-Moovin' On a Groove-Jetstream Ruby Andrews-Just Loving You-Zodiac Jesse James- love is all right-Shirley Joey Delorenzo-Wake Up To The Sunshine Girl- Mi Val All the unissued RCA from Ady Ben E King-Give It To Me Cody Black-Its Our Time To Fall In Love-Gig Eddie Billups-Ask My Heart-Peachtree Potentiall loads more...........so what are your post Stafford era tunes, you feel deserve classic status ???????????? Russ What a list Russ. And what a great idea for a thread. Imperial C's ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) What a list Russ. And what a great idea for a thread. Imperial C's ? Played well before I think Steve, great tune tho' Russ Edited August 28, 2008 by Russ Vickers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Played well before I think Steve, great tune tho' Russ Really ? Where was it played Russ, at Stafford ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 Wow, great thread Russ, will mull over this tomorrow- was a bit surprised to see the JD in there, but we are not going to agree on all so maybe good idea to just accentuate the positive on this one, there are loads and since I am always banging on about it, would be good to put some up. Need to go to bed but I will be back tomorrow........ Dont really need to like em mate.......maybe not a classic tho with hind sight ??????/. Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 Really ? Where was it played Russ, at Stafford ? Im sure it was played end of Wigan & went on to be played at Stafford, but I wait to be corrected as I wouldnt want to swear to it. Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Anderton Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I think it was Dave Rimmer who came up with the label "post Wigan oldie"....still just about sums it up to me.... Great thread Russ.... Suppose I`d have to add......... Stoppers-Come back baby Carla Thomas-I`ll never stop loving you Isleys-My love is your love Constelations-I dont know about you Garland Green-Just aint good enough Chuck Jackson-Whats with this loneliness Now someone is gonna tell me some of these tunes got played in Peterborough in 1974...but I`m talking about widespread popularity.... Chris Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) You could add quite a few from Butch alone, Jean Carter Martha Jean Love Mac Staton & Nomads Antalects Hank Hodge Jerry Williamns (Tommy Tate) cover up Johnny Praye Patrinell Staten Sensations.....Demanding Man couple from Andy Dyson Rita & Tiaras coverup Belita Woods cover up Edited August 29, 2008 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Throw in a few Charles Mintz-Running back Bad Weather Inc-I never, never knew Margaret Little-Love finds a way Dennis Edwards-Johnny on the spot (Know about since the late 70's, but only Martin Coppell had one) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gavin Page Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Jesse James- love is all right-Shirley A little off topic Russ sorry, you have just reminded of the above. I loved this when I used to hear Butch play it. Not heard it for years now. What's the story with this? Is it a one off ect Feckin great thead by the way my old friend. Need to dig out some Soul Essence play lists. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) James Troubles favourite....Joe Jama (Tim Brown) Metros - Don't Let Her Give You Some Of Her Love (Rob Marriott) Diane Lewis - Ain't Got A Chance (Butch) Ralph Graham - She Just Sits There - Upfront (Colin Law) Kurt Harris - Emperor Of My Baby's Heart - Diamond (Ady) Jokers - Soul Sounds - Sko Field (Rob M) Edited August 29, 2008 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) A little off topic Russ sorry, you have just reminded of the above. I loved this when I used to hear Butch play it. Not heard it for years now. What's the story with this? Is it a one off ect Feckin great thead by the way my old friend. Need to dig out some Soul Essence play lists. It's unissued Virtue acetate isn't it? The Shirley one is Are You Gonna Leave Me, Butch's Arcades cover up. Also World of Happiness from Butch too. Credited to Ann Robinson is it although it's supposedly not her. Edited August 29, 2008 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Moments-Baby I want you Norris Vines-Give in Charles Holiday-Don't lie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) James Troubles favourite....Joe Jama (Tim Brown) Metros - Don't Let Her Give You Some Of Her Love (Rob Marriott) Diane Lewis - Ain't Got A Chance (Butch) Ralph Graham - She Just Sits There - Upfront (Colin Law) Kurt Harris - Emperor Of My Baby's Heart - Diamond (Ady) Jokers - Soul Sounds - Sko Field (Rob M) Ady Pountain and Keith Minshull had this at Stafford Edited August 29, 2008 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gavin Page Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 It's unissued Virtue acetate isn't it? Also World of Happiness from Butch too. Credited to Ann Robinson is it although it's supposedly not her. Thats what I thought, but on the list Russ has shown it being on Shirly thus the question Sound Bite any one? Would brighten my day up no end Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Ady Pountain and Keith Minshull had this at Stafford nice one Dave, funny, one I've always associated to Ady, thanks for putting me right. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Arthur Prysock-I was a boy Not really a classic as I have the only copy, but was very popular at The Ritz for the four years I DJ'd there. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gavin Page Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Roosevelt Matthews With Billy Ball And The Upsetters -You Got Me Diggin You - King Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 It's unissued Virtue acetate isn't it? The Shirley one is Are You Gonna Leave Me, Butch's Arcades cover up. Also World of Happiness from Butch too. Credited to Ann Robinson is it although it's supposedly not her. You are right of course Chalks............was typing like a demon & twas late, apologies peeps, Gavin sorry for the 'bum steer' mate & yes we need some Modern input too. Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Sh*t I just love this Dave..........memories of Bretby & my god does it need more action.........just awesome for me. Russ Get yourself upto 'Lifeline' tomorrow then Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 You are right of course Chalks............was typing like a demon & twas late, apologies peeps, Gavin sorry for the 'bum steer' mate & yes we need some Modern input too. Russ Second Re$surrection - You Done Let Daylight Catch You Ice - Hard Times Jesse Fisher-Honey Bill Brandon-Streets got my lady Gino Washington & The Davis Sisters-So in love Little Reuben-In the name of loneliness Trace Of Smoke-Treasure mind Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Sh*t I just love this Dave..........memories of Bretby & my god does it need more action.........just awesome for me. Russ Fabulous piece of soul and you're right Russ, not heard enough! Suppose that's the trouble with acetates and such like. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gavin Page Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Feckin work is goin to get in the way with this dipping in and out quickly.. Chuck Cockram Richard Caiton Kenny Hamber Joseph Webster King Moses Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SteveJohnston Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Fabulous piece of soul and you're right Russ, not heard enough! Suppose that's the trouble with acetates and such like. For me, never heard this befor can honestly say it's the very best soul track i've had the pleasure of listening to in years, truly class Mr Thorley Steve J Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Too many modern tracks to mention really Second Re$surrection - You Done Let Daylight Catch You Dave the above track was played a lot around 1985 onwards , Steve G and NCFC can concur Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Too many modern tracks to mention really Second Re$surrection - You Done Let Daylight Catch You Dave the above track was played a lot around 1985 onwards , Steve G and NCFC can concur The grammar utilised on that title is terrible. Is the song about hillbilly vampires? Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 I think we could also add: Montclaires-Hey You-Arch....(I know............. played once at the Mecca, but wasnt really played out until more recently). Big Daddy Rogers - Im a Big Man-Midas Elipsis-People-Briarmeade Melvin Brown & James Matthews - Love Stormy Weather - Philmore Sound Patience Valentine - If you don't come - Sar Keni Lewis - Not the Marrying Kind Gerri Grainger-Why Cant it Be Tonight Lenny Williams-Gotta Lotta Luv-Krush Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) The grammar utilised on that title is terrible. Is the song about hillbilly vampires? Ian D I think its about dirty stop-outs ps. too many deep funkies to mention too Edited August 29, 2008 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Too many modern tracks to mention really Second Re$surrection - You Done Let Daylight Catch You Dave the above track was played a lot around 1985 onwards , Steve G and NCFC can concur But it was post Stafford, if only just the subject of this tread Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Charles Holiday-Don't lie Bought this at Stafford, does that count? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roddy Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 hi all i think this is a great topic could we split the modern and the not so modern 'cause like the previous stafford thread i will find it hard in keeping up. Regards Roddy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) I've the worst memory in the world but Many classics post Stafford came about by simply flipping tunes made popular at TOTW, eg Jack Montgomery, Tangeers etc. How about Terry Callier - Ordinary Joe Little Ann - Who Are you trying To Fool Purple Mundi Soul Set - Will You Ever Learn Brand New Faces - B N F True Image - Not over you yet Martha reeves - Noone There Oxford knights - We can make it. Some of those may have been Stafford too. Plus the Luther Ingram one that Ady plays. I dont get it, but everyone else raves about it, and it fills the 100 club floor every time. Edited August 29, 2008 by in town Mikey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 But it was post Stafford, if only just the subject of this tread 1985 , I thought that was during Stafford's time Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gavin Page Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 But it was post Stafford, if only just the subject of this tread Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 For me, never heard this befor can honestly say it's the very best soul track i've had the pleasure of listening to in years, truly class Mr Thorley Steve J I say again, get yourself to 'Lifeline' and you can hear it over a booming system Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 1985 , I thought that was during Stafford's time This is the sillest post of the day, but I don't know when Stafford ended . My memory is shot, can anyone give me the date of the last one we did. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gavin Page Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Melvin Moore Flowers Satin John Edwards James Phelps Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 Feckin work is goin to get in the way with this dipping in and out quickly.. Chuck Cockram Richard Caiton Kenny Hamber Joseph Webster King Moses King Moses was deffo played pre & during Stafford, altho maybe not at Stafford, Poke play wasnt it ? altho' has enjoyed wider success more recently, I think Joseph Webster might have been played earlier too, but not sure, can anyone confirm ????????.........Richard Caiton woahhhhh........great tune. Which reminds me. Milton Parker-Women Like It Harder-closet James Phelps-The Look On Your Face-Apache Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 The grammar utilised on that title is terrible. Is the song about hillbilly vampires? Ian D Or the Pope turning into a Vampire, ahh bless him. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 This is the sillest post of the day, but I don't know when Stafford ended . My memory is shot, can anyone give me the date of the last one we did. Well I went a few times in 1986 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) King Moses was deffo played pre & during Stafford, altho maybe not at Stafford, Poke play wasnt it ? altho' has enjoyed wider success more recently, I think Joseph Webster might have been played earlier too, but not sure, can anyone confirm ????????.........Richard Caiton woahhhhh........great tune. Which reminds me. Milton Parker-Women Like It Harder-closet James Phelps-The Look On Your Face-Apache Russ yeah thats right on King Moses ! plus Guy H and a DJ at Morcombe had Joe Webster . Hey Gavin you got one yet ? Edited August 29, 2008 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gavin Page Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 yeah thats right on King Moses ! plus Guy H had Joe Webster . Hey Gavin you got one yet ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gavin Page Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 This is the sillest post of the day, but I don't know when Stafford ended . My memory is shot, can anyone give me the date of the last one we did. I thought late 86 early 87 Feck me man, it was your gig Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 This is the sillest post of the day, but I don't know when Stafford ended . My memory is shot, can anyone give me the date of the last one we did. Let's get this right Dave. You ran the No.1 all-nighter in the 80's and you can't remember when it closed? I'd hate to do a Stafford comp with you mate! Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 plus Guy H had Joe Webster . Hey Gavin you got one yet ? Guy deffo had it, got first two copies from label owner although not sure it could have been instrumental flip he played more. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) I'd say Stafford went 83 to 86?? Where's Chalkie when you need him? Oops there he is. Edited August 29, 2008 by in town Mikey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Let's get this right Dave. You ran the No.1 all-nighter in the 80's and you can't remember when it closed? I'd hate to do a Stafford comp with you mate! Ian D Tell me about it!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Let's get this right Dave. You ran the No.1 all-nighter in the 80's and you can't remember when it closed? I'd hate to do a Stafford comp with you mate! Ian D Actually Ive spoken to a few people and no one remembers the final Stafford . Strange hey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Actually Ive spoken to a few people and no one remembers the final Stafford . Strange hey That's partly because it ended suddenly, no big last night. The new owners of the club had inherited us when they took over the club and didn't really get the whole soul/allnighter thing. So in a search for something to close it, focused on the drug thing. It was fair to say that by the mid 80's people jacking up and leaving works in the toilet pans had become a bit of an issue. We had to sweep the build three times a night to clean up ofter others. In the end, the management just annonced that this was the last one, and so it ended, no fanfair. But by then it had do it's job as a venue, the scene was in much better shape than when we open our doors, new DJ's and venues where everywhere, fun while it lasted, but never out stay your welcome. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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