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The long running no bootleg policy has been updated to....

No recent bootleg/pirated or illegal material may be sold via the Soul Source forums



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On ‎08‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 16:43, dylan said:

No recent bootleg is a good thing but what about no bootlegs full stop regardless of when they were made ?

 

that would be better imo.

:hatsoff2:HI MIKE....I hope the message gets through, especially to the younger brothers & Sisters on the Soul Scene, who are keen to embrace all aspects that the scene has to offer,  Over the last 50 years that the Rare/Northern Soul Scene has been going, the bootlegs have been part of it, initially our naivety & lack of Knowledge meant many of us bought bootlegs as a affordable way to recapture the sound of the All-nighter that we attended on a Saturday night, however this is not the case today as many dealers who use to be 100% anti bootlegs now seem to stock them, It would be so un-soulful to allow the new people to the scene, think that these bootlegs are going to be worth investing in for the future, and indeed when records the are called 2nd press, re-pressings are misleading, 

:thumbsup:I am pleased that SOULSOURCE is reiterating the Anti-Bootleg policy,

:yes:SOULSOURCE IS KEEPING THE FAITH IN 2018 by being a NO BOOTLEGS 4 SALE.

HAPPY CHRISTMAS KTF TO ALL MY READERS (the Ed).  

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Would like to just add to the original post the following

This policy regarding 'illegal items' is a simple normal day to day UK standard website legal policy

Just like any other UK based website we can not offer the selling of illegal items

Moderation is at times reactive, so if you do spot any 'illegal items' for sale then please let us know asap via the 'flag this post ' feature or the  'contact us' feature that show on every page

thanks

mike

 

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On 08/12/2017 at 16:43, dylan said:

No recent bootleg is a good thing but what about no bootlegs full stop regardless of when they were made ?

 

that would be better imo.

I completely agree, it's bad enough seeing 100s of boolegs for sale on e bay. Also, what qualifies as a 'recent' bootleg?

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1 hour ago, soulatthedale said:

I completely agree, it's bad enough seeing 100s of boolegs for sale on e bay. Also, what qualifies as a 'recent' bootleg?

'recent' bootleg for the purpose of moderation is taken to be a recently (as a guide this century) manufactured 45 that is known to be illegal

 

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Just as a side note to all of this...
ALL dealings of pirate / bootleg / illegal material, be it for sale or exchange / trade is not permitted. 

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On 19/12/2017 at 13:06, mike said:

Would like to just add to the original post the following

This policy regarding 'illegal items' is a simple normal day to day UK standard website legal policy

Just like any other UK based website we can not offer the selling of illegal items

Moderation is at times reactive, so if you do spot any 'illegal items' for sale then please let us know asap via the 'flag this post ' feature or the  'contact us' feature that show on every page

thanks

mike

 

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On 21/03/2018 at 19:05, soulatthedale said:

I completely agree, it's bad enough seeing 100s of boolegs for sale on e bay. Also, what qualifies as a 'recent' bootleg?

I have to say that the term “ recent “ does not do the policy and justice at all, and agree with both Dylan and Soulatthedale . A bootleg is by its very nature just that and would it not be better to not allow any full stop . 

 

 

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The 'recent' policy using this century as a guideline is workable.

A more historic blanket policy imo on all bootlegs could not be enforced without major changes and do feel that nothing would be gained by having such a policy, giving the amount of time passed along with the often 'confusing' background/history of 20-50 year old pressings/bootlegs/2ndreleases

 

 

 

 

 

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So it could not work like Discogs manages to do there’s ? 

And how then do “ bootlegs “ from the 70’s become acceptable to sell on but others not . 

So where and how do you draw a line on a bootleg regarding the SS policy ? 

How or why do you allow some “ bootlegs to be sold on here and others not ? 

What qualifies as a saleable “ bootleg “ ? 

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15 minutes ago, stevegods said:

So it could not work like Discogs manages to do there’s ? 

nope do not have the resources to keep a current index of known vinyl 'bootlegs' or to check every sale

plus discogs is set up to offer a more deliberate way of selling, which is quite different than our sales forum 

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And how then do “ bootlegs “ from the 70’s become acceptable to sell on but others not . 

as said given the actual difficulties in id-ing 70s bootlegs any blanket ban would be unworkable

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So where and how do you draw a line on a bootleg regarding the SS policy ? 

if we are aware that a sale is a recent bootlegs then may take action

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How or why do you allow some “ bootlegs to be sold on here and others not ? 

What qualifies as a saleable “ bootleg “ ? 

have explained this many times to you via many PMs and also the above comments do answer this repeated query

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well to be very honest Mike this is the first time you have tried to explain. On other occasions you have just referred me to the policy .  

 

The above comments do help a little  , yes , but also make the policy open to contradiction and the guidelines blurred .

But I guess that this one is a prickly subject . 

 70s boots, have now to a lot of us , become an acceptable part of the history of the scene , whereas anyone trying to do the same thing now  , well . 

 

Tricky one Mike but thank you for having the patients and finally getting there with me . 

 

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