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    Have recentley bought a small record collection, this is amongst it, not really my type of thing but can not find it in J.M. guide and popsike are only showing a couple sold 5/6 years back for around $100. I understand it was a Keb Darge spin. Anybody got any ideas how much it may be worth today.

    Thanks in advance if you can help ..Jem

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    Herbert Hunter - I was born to love you/ Push away from the table - Spar (vinyl) ex £180. SOLD

    Thelma Lindsey - Prepared to love you/ Why werent you there - Magic City - vg+ £170. SOLD

    Mighty Lovers - Mighty lover/ Soul blues - Boo- ga- loo (yellow) - vg+ £150.

    Constellations - I did't know how to/ Popa daddy - Gemini star - vg++ £120.

    Soulville Allstars - I'm gonna get to you/ Wont you please be my girl - Soulville - vg+ £90. SOLD

    Joey Heatherton - When you call me baby/ Live & learn - Decca (Demo) - vg+ £80.

    All are issues unless stated. I have been conservative with gradings. All labels are clean (no writing etc.) Price includes postage to uk address (overseas please contact me) paypal payment preffered.

    Thanks for taking a look atb Jem :thumbsup:

    Just like to say big thanks for inviting me and Lenny down for last nights show, we really did have a blast and made to feel very welcome by Nick and Tabs , sorry you couldnt make it Melly hope Mum is feeeling better. Had to make my own tea and supply Nick with beer allnight, but He did remember pasties etc. :yes:

    Hope you can grab a lift for Soul in Bowl on Saturday Mel, if it helps you and driver can have a couple of freebies to get in :thumbsup:

    Love it! One of the first Brunswick 45's I purchased and great value double sider. Used to be played locally here at the end of a night (Rushden, Northants) but not heard it out for ages. I'll maybe have to put in a request this coming Saturday :thumbsup:

    As you know Steve it was a Rushden tradition that i carried on at the Pembo was played as the last record at the 'Rock Foundation' Rushden Northants . Promoters John Warren and Andy Luck were Mecca Fans and played it as a tribute .I played it as a tribute to them. :P

    Funnily enough had it on in the car the other day my son said it sounded like 'supermarket' music :lol:

    Jem and Len, if you nip round Nick's to collect the washing machine and then pop to mine for the piping, shall we call it a monkey all in????? I can let Garv have the freezer then just out of fairness??? :wicked:

    Looking forward to the Travelling Twosome playing some of their best and finest vinyl; (3 for a £10 spot Jem?) :shhh:

    The white van will arrive for 8pm; MOT and insurance documents will be required...... :huh:

    Join us for a fine evening :thumbup:

    Yes the Northants Gypsy is on the way, I will take a look at those roof slates as well , you could have some lead flashing missing Mel, well you will have when im finished anyway...tea and cakes at the ready please!!! and a sugar lump for the horse :D

    Hello len.....how long you been his dad lol.......not trying anything,but he does word things in such a way as to give the immpression that he was where he wern,t......none of which matters as we all live today and the past counts for not much really :D :D

    Eh you lost me there, werent you doing your "plastic sandals funk thing circa 1977" Tez :P Fleet allnighter fletton had good oldies room as well heard Mr. Floods ..Real compared to what in there for first time...love it

    Hi Terry,

    Jem's just coming up to 50 years old - it's to early for me to do the math, but he was the right age to correspond to such a nice post.

    I know exactly what you're getting at though, some do stretch the truth, but this one's ok.

    All the best,

    Len :thumbsup:

    :lol: If i was gonna stretch the truth would try and make myself younger Len , maybe cool Stafford Goer or something, no never went unfortunately. I have to admit i got into the scene at arguably one of its worst periods spencer soul bags white socks and Muriel Day were the order of the day for me :thumbsup:

    As a kind of reminder of what you are talking about, I almost always play this in my spot - I will most definatelly be playing it in 'Len's Den' (Nov 17th) :rofl: along side some rare ones and some 'cheapies', in contrast it seems to sound better than it ever sounded as do any reactivated oldies.

    All the best,

    Len :thumbsup:

    Yes and i forgive you for nicking this of me :thumbup: a soul in the bowl "main room classic"

    Interesting topic Pete and if we are all honest suppose we are all a bit guilty of what your describing. I grew up in a house where my older sister was a original Mod girl so growing up remember hearing Kinks Motown etc., my older brother was a Skinhead/ Suede Head, so Reggae/ Ska and my younger sister was into Rock :ohmy:

    My Cousin introduced me to Northern Soul and i was hooked immediately by the music. I can remember defending it to death at a time when most people including my siblings ridiculed the music, clothes and scene as naff circa 1976/77 think people forget that , as now outsiders view Northern Soul as retro cool. So like you I was guilty of being a N.Soul snob.

    Think most would agree those times 76/77 where strange , Golden era over etc.pop influenced "newies" stuff coming through, which even as a impressionable teenager i found a bit naff, although some good then modern soul stuff emerging . I found myself more often than not in oldies rooms where i was listening to what i now know was 60s club classics, met Glen Bellamy who educated me in this stuff.

    Coming full circle my eldest son 23 is heavily into rare motown and soul which has filtered down, In the end I suppose all the dots have been joined and now i listen to and have a healthy respect for all the genres

    not sure about the rock thing though :g:

    Purely coincidentley just got this through the post this morning but on uk chess 8102. reason being dug my us original cadet styrene copy out the other day.... hadnt played it for ages..reminded me that i was never happy with the sound quality ...uk copy good quality vinyl sounds perfect gives a whole new pleasure to playing it. This to me is what owning records is about getting the best possible recording you can and a big reason that i prefer owning originals......But going by the rules some suggest the uk copy could be classed as a re issue?

    Anyway for those who might visit our venue where i could play it please dont walk out in disgust if you here it thinkling its a re issue.. cos i shall be playing the us cadet copy and saving the chess one for the ultimate sound experience at home

    :P

    Forget the ‘What’s original, what’s not’ bit for a moment because I think we all agree, if we study the ‘nitty gritty’ of that, it becomes a mine field!

    I think what Jem is trying to get an honest answer to, is why do people ‘insist’on the ‘Original Vinyl Only’ thing? - I can only speak for myself, so here goes…..

    We’re basically talking about the ‘purest’ aspect of the scene and the ‘need’ to play the most ‘purest’ format of a particular sound - There’s absolutely nothing wrong in having this obsession, it’s a passion, and I am ‘guilty as charged your honour!’ - I want the original, most purest format, for the same reasons an art collector wants original paintings or an antique dealer wants original pieces, whatever that reason may be! — I can’t put it into any other words really, except that I get joy out of it — some sort of magic I guess!

    The quality of sound is also part of it….. But, who am I trying to kid? - If the ‘original’ was a worse recording than the pressing….guess which one I would pay more for?...Correct! - I am that sad :D — Come on guyz, we have to laugh at ourselves!

    Although Russ may have come across to some on this thread as a bit angry, I can vouch for him, that he buys his records with the same thinking as me - Of course, if someone enjoys a record I play, that gives me a buzz - but that is because I have ‘shared the joy’ of the sound and the ‘Magic’ of that particular ‘piece’ (Record)

    What I detest and always have done, is when people go on and on about it so much - it just makes them look stupid as they are focussing on it far too much, almost as if they are desperate to prove themselves or something - As far as I’m concerned, it’s not an issue - I know what I play and that’s all that matters to me.

    All the best,

    Len :thumbsup:

    Well Len to you and all the other purists if thats the case then you should be seeking out the master tapes and playing them out :P not sure how you would plug them into the amp etc though :lol: sorry mate see ya later

    Jesus the singer often got bugger all then and even now with reissues !!!! Do ya bloody home work on publishing and royalites within the music industry and stop digging at people who buy or play or at least respect original vinyl !!!!

    as I have already mentioned above... What I find also interresting is that the european soul scene as well as the rnb and reggae scene is slowly getting more & more into the ovo spirit even at a pub level!!! People also treating ovo venues, dj's & collectors with respect not with contempt & constand ridicules like in Britain!!! Right now the uk scene is more and more deluted by a jolly good knee up and piss up soul don't give a flying monkey night out play what I want anything goes and do as I say....

    Im not having a DIG at anyone, just asking questions thats what forums are for, I Have a few thousand original soul records myself and know what motivates me to own them was just enquiring what others thought. Why would i know anything about record publishing companies I just buy records someone else raised the point that artists were not getting paid or being paid for uk re issues, I mereley commented on it,

    i made a post about artists getting one off payments....but i never said this was the reason why i personally and many like me play original vinyl....as has been said MANY times...the main reason for playing ovo is to stop every tom dick and harry playing bad copied boots of tomangos etc or even cheap legit reissues of tracks other djs have the originals of....to make their own playlists of underplayed quality tunes....

    Again wasnt aimed at you. I just find it interesting that a point was made concerning artists getting paid/ not getting paid and buy people extolling the virtues of buying ovo may be linked as a mark of respect . When in fact it transpires that they may have recieved royalties from uk reissues in the 70s ....suppose its just a bit ironic....you play ovo for the reasons you stated ...fair play

    :thumbsup:

    I didnt say that. And what I spend on records has nothing to do with you, all you need to know is that whether Im spending 50p or £1k it will be the original format of release. You can spend your money on what you want, it has nothing to do with me until you spin a reissue or bootleg at a venue that Im attending, then I would feel cheated.

    Best Russ

    Russ

    Whoa there boy, wasnt aimed personally at you was an answer to the general point being made ....spend what you like on what you like . I posed the question to some one else. What is your motivation for buying ovo? thats all and really as yet havent had an answer...incidentley i buy ovo in most cases because the sound quality is superior and i like listening to it not cos i want to dj with it. I do proffessional djing at non Northern Soul events so certainly not desperate to dj at a northern soul night ...plenty of people around to take care of that

    Best Jem

    People say that, on here? Really? If they do, I absolutely despair at their ignorance.

    OVO is nothing more than an original release of a track - no matter what country it came out in - as opposed to reissues of it. Why is that so difficult to understand and why do people need to complicate something so simple?

    :rofl: ha ha but really these reissues are in lots of cases just later represses very often from the same pressing plate just re labled.... so they are authentic....sorry but its reality not terminology im talking about :P

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    ok then so lets get this right ...what is being advocated is the artist that sang the tune is getting nothing, just one off payment then record companies cashing in ? and this bothers some people today , well here is a suggestion stop spending thousands of pounds on ovo. buy a reissue(ligit off course) cos you really like the record ??... so your "right on" and got some credentials left, then send the change from your grand to the artist or the family if they are no longer with us.

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    Do you think that the people behind the said re issues had the best interests of the artists at the for front of thier mind when they did them, or do you think they were done purely to cash in on a demand so they could earn a wedge ?.

    Best Russ

    Im sure if they were proper business people they were in it to make a profit (nothing wrong in that) but if it was done legitimatley and above board then surely said artists would have got something for it down the line, unless we are saying that pye and the like were total charlatans, never been in the record industry myself so wouldnt know , but at least this way they stood a chance with a illegal boot leg zero chance, plus any royalties they may of recieved from the us release im sure would have long gone if we are to believe the stories

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    I would not have thought any artist gets any royalties from OVO policies.

    Just about every record played on the scene was played from a "second hand" copy,

    Mecca current releases excepted.

    The only way anybody would get royalties is via a legitimate re-release or being issued over

    here Pye Disco Demand etc.

    kegsy

    Kegsy

    Interesting point Kegsy...so really in respect to those often unsung artists we should have all opted for ligit uk re issues back then

    least they may have got some of their just deserts then....well i got loads of disco demand stuff i bought new so i done my bit :thumbsup:

    well I'll risk getting my head blown off

    at our Soul Nights @ Bridgwater on 13 October we had the issue of the sad passing of Frank Wilson to deal with ; just wouldn't be right to say nothing.

    the request was, natch, and from a couple of sources, to play DILY. And somebody offered a 1970's tmg demo as something we could play for Frank to remember his fantastic contribution to our lives.

    to me [as promoter of S.N.@ B.], and taking money off people who travel from near and far to come to an ' OVO ' night, it's a no-brainer. Can't be played.

    Released in [ 1972 ? ] whereas the original is from [ 1966 ? ]. Can't be OVO.

    The point of this posting is to air my view that occasionally people get mixed up with the boot v OVO debate [ surely dead simples ? ], whereas the more subtle issues are usually around re-release v OVO.

    Anyway, all the above is off course, I.M.H.O. And I don't mind if someone wants to give me a kicking if the dates above are wrong. I guessed at them; I'm cooking dinner and didn't go and check them.

    If anyone is interested, and still reading without nodding off, the tribute record to Frank was ' Stoned Love ', [ long winded spoken intro ], played as the ender, which is a bit of a S.N.@ .B guilty secret / fave.

    pete

    Hi Pete, just a question not a pop, you seem pretty dogmatic in your approach (100% original vinyl) as the F.W. situation suggests. You adverise A.T.B. night , so if i came along and requested say Frankie Beverley - Thats what i wanted or Majestics - I love her so much would i expect to hear it on Sassy/ Gamble or Linda/ WB in both cases one came before the other just wondered what your policy would be on them :)

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