Posts posted by Maria O
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Did some research a few years back for a second records review article for Derek that I never submitted...
This particular label was apparently formed by Lou "I Travel Alone" Ragland in 1968, although the track's composer Chuck Brown, has also been credited as a probable owner.
Found this somewhere back then too:
"The Out-Of-Sights-Members were Gregory Still (brother of Charles "SLICK" Still lead singer on "I Was Wrong". Paul Woodall (former member of The Tam-A-Las in John Wilson's high school group), Stan Reeves who now is a policeman, Harry Stewart, the late Larry Wade. Rumored Chuck Brown was a member of this group, but he was never a musician. Always has been in The Bail Bondmans Business."
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Hi Gary. This album came out on three different labels. I believe the color one is the LPG release, black and white as you state the Graham International while the TSG got different cover design. Not sure which one was first but Graham was probably a later release.
Regards, Karl
Yep, the Graham International one has been described as "2nd issue" too.
Lloyd apparently co-founded the LPG label with Don King (boxer promoter) in 1976, when this LP came out on that label.
Until now I was not aware of the TSG release of the LP! So I found myself needing to dig further again:
According to the TSG discography [ click HERE ], this LP was released in 1976.
Therefore, we may have two 1976 releases - both on LPG and TSG.
So... does anybody have both and can confirm actual dates further????????
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(mine's on LPG but not sure if I left it in Oz, before I bother to try dig it out).
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Hi,
for my girlfriends birthday I gave her a 3 day trip to Copenhagen in October
(2 days after the Hamburg Soul Weekender
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Any commendations for record shops, nice bars or restaurants, etc. ...it's more than 15 years ago that I was in Copenhagen. We will stay in the Vesterbrogade.
Thanks for your help
Tolbert
Tolbert,
We flew into Copenhagen when we went to one of the Malmoe (Sweden) soul nights, which was quite close.
So, Helena or Hanna or...... (sorry, my mind's gone blank on all the boy's names)
can possibly help you via PM.
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the problem is as soon as someone names venues that do this......the whole world and their wife on this site ..berates them for being negative, unsoulful and a general arse.....even if what they post is TRUE....they would rather in time honoured fashion shoot the messenger.I could name plenty of folk but all that happens is people complain about ME never about their dodgey practise atb tezza
I logged on earleir today and felt sorry for a guy who sounded like he got a raw deal, so lended some requested advice [ CLICK HERE TO READ ] only to now see the replies to my post as well as this thread here
..obviously BOTH SIDES OF THE SAME COIN.
Next time I get involved with stuff like this, can someone please send me a big e-spank on the arse.
Thanks muchly,
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Ms Blah Blah
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I wonder if you have ever heard Rolf's "Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport Cha Cha Cha"? Actually I wonder if it even exists - I thought I saw a copy once c. 1973, on Australian Columbia, in the window of a (sadly) closed junkshop on the Archway Road, but when I went back to claim it, both record and junkshop were gone. Perhaps I just dreamed the whole thing?
Anyway if you or anyone else has a copy of this 'holy grail comedy record' could you or they post it up please? If only to satisfy my mind that I didn't make the events of the previous paragraph up!
TONE
Hi Tone,
I edited my post when I realised that I was confused with another track regarding who wrote the track. Not sure if Rolf ever released the Boomerang track on 45, but he def did a version. I was forced to check this previoulsy and I'm not the only one who remembers him singing it.
(Also, If you google it, various debates on this very issue exist!)
Off course I remember 'Tie me kangaroo down sport' (without the 'cha cha') and it's also on you-tube -> click [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raYS3RGVdCE&feature=related"][ HERE ]. Rolf did a later version to the 1960 original version, changing some words because that was racist.
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ps. I've taken the afternoon off as leave in order to get an assignment in by midnight e-lodgement. I can't believe I'm looking up Rolf Harris instead!
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Edited by Maria O
Soul Sam played my Demo Copy of Benny Hills ERNIE @ Prestatyn last year its on Utube!!https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wb35dTLt5CI&...7E6&index=2
Torchboy x
Ooops, I forgot I stuck that up on my You-tube 'boomerangsoul' account
I'd never heard of Charlie Drake until Karen mentioned him to me when we had a debate on who did this song. I had been threatening to play it at our 'Boomerang' night in Thorne, just to see if anyone would notice
I can't remember if it came up because someone told me that it was customary for the resident dj to finish soul nights here in the UK and that we should also get a regular ender (- not that I had any intention of listening to that advice - as I'd rather a guest dj leaves them gasping for more).
...anyway:
We Aussies grew up with the ROLF HARRIS VERSION of "My Boomerang won't come back".
And after now finding Charlie Drake's version [ HERE ] for a listen, I recall Rolf sounded a hell of a lot better.
- off course, I was a hell of a lot younger when I last heard it
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Do yourself a favour Mark and give Rolf a listen. I don't remember Rolf's version sounding offensive (to my ears) if I was an aborigine - like I have just found the Drake version to be, imho. We're very PC on the Oz south/east coast where I'm from, so maybe that's why I don't find it funny
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Yes I said that Tim Whitset should know, because I was already in contact with him about other aspects of the discography. Do you think he just picked me at random and then emailed me information about a record at random.
I'll happily admit I had no idea who the record was prior to Tim emailing me. However, Soulful Kinda Music is primarily a site about Soul music discographies, and if an artist emails me with a correction to a discography, I'm going to include that on the site. I'm certainly not going to say I can't include the information he has given me because it might upset someone in the UK because they have got the record covered up !
To expect that is both selfish and ridiculous !
Dave,
Apologies, but the post I had read then, implied that you had contacted Tim after someone wrote that your discography was incorrect.
A few UK guys were in contact with Tim regarding Tommy Tate at the time I wrote to him (including those asking about this particular record). In case there is any doubt, I was calling myself an idiot for jogging his memory about the band name
- although he wrote that he had been meaning to ask others, so guess it would have come out soon.
I am grateful for online discographies and use them a lot to join the dots. I appreciate your efforts.
However, I am also selfish and ridiculous at times too ...but you already knew that!
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Sean, as far as Im aware, the Kansas City group have no connection. This is basically Tim Whitsett's Imperial Showband, with Tommy on lead & Dorothy Moore backing..............it was recorded in the grease pit of a garage !!!!............the fore runner to the Grits n Gravy Studios !!!!!. You are quite right in saying Marva Whitney was a one time member of the Kansas City TATD tho'.
I picked up a copy last year after seeing it amongst a bunch of others in an auction. I actually forgot to bid on it
, then tracked down the seller who put me on to the new buyer. We had no idea what it was worth, but we finally agreed about 50% over the whole auction price for this one record in about 50-100 records. In the end, it worked out about £78 (with postage).
I also chased up the group and thought that it must be Marva Whitney in the backing as she sang with a group with the same bizarre name. I found other members of the group and finally a contact name (or two). Lots of emails were exchanged.
But no, it is not the same group and has absolutely no connection as far as I could find.
Unfortunately, my next step could prove fatal after admitting this:
After reading and posting in [THIS THREAD] last January, a couple of guys called RussV and DaveA PM'd me and sent me on a new direction of Dorothy Moore singing the backup (and Tommy Tate on vocals). They had done extensive research already, but they understood when I would not give them the real name, which was very honorable of them I thought. Obviously, I then found Tim Whitsett and asked him about the group only to discover that he had forgotten all about them
. Unfortunately, he assumed by my email address that I was living in Australia and then also emailed back a few guys who had asked about the Tommy Tate track. He also wrote a lot of background about the group and recording (which I assume he copied to others).
Regardless of Mr Rimmer saying [iN THIS THREAD] that Tim Whitsett should know because he was in the band ...well he had forgotten enough not to be able to advise anyone else asking for a Tommy Tate track with that title (or similar), until some idiot
twigged his memory banks.
...I am sure that it was near being uncovered, but it still makes me feel sick.
Whilst I do talk a lot, I carry secrets to my grave and it's not in my nature to normally give anything like this away.
Hopefully it's a valuable lesson to the rest of you who like to find records themselves and also artists to email chat with, but hate to see prices hyped.
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Cmon Maria, have that second coffee so you can see straighter
3 negatives above and a flurry last time it was mentioned, interesting point about it being a boys records, I think thats probably actually quite true
(and I won't really push my luck by saying I always see you as one of the boys, dont want two black eyes do I
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Yes, bit sleepy as I woke early (+travelled over 500 miles for soul do's the last two days, after a week of little sleep from coughing fits). Not even 3 tablespoons of Lavazza is doing it for me today.
...But I still don't see anything that bad said about the record
If it's on my 'wants list', I love it when people say a record I love is crap - coz I'm hopefully the only one looking for it and it's around cheap. Besides, as I always say: "Soul is Emotion ...we cannot choose what may evoke that!" Hence, the reason why everyone gets so stroppy on these internet lists - and why so many think they're right, when we know they aren't
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ps. you're safe. I only hit men I like
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I can't believe the negativity to this record, yes a tricky dancer but so what, uptempo, soulful, agrosoul with oooomphh. It has that magical missing something that 90% of records just don't have that stop them becoming truly great, to me anyway.
Just stand during the tricky bits and smile on the dancefloor and be grateful.
One of the greatest records to have had pleasure to dance to.
Um, I thought I was the only one who said they didn't rate it
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It's very popular I thought (esp with the males) and I know someone that we book at Thorne regularly who gets asked to play it all the time.
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I think there is unissued stuff still but most his Jazz vocal style as George Lemons considered himself more a Jazz singer.
Interesting Gene, because I've always thought CABARET was his calling.
Always found it too tedious to my ears, but it would be nice for George to know that his record was appreciated by so many others.
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or someone could bid the minimum which would take off the reserve and ruin it for everyone
In this case, I don't actually like this record - but surely Soul Source should have a "gentleman's agreement" that records on auction are not discussed prior to auction completion, unless:
- you are warning everyone about a dodgy auction/seller, including doubt over authenticity
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- you are the seller and you want to flog your wares by raising interest (I can't begrudge anyone for that)
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i agree with you there matt. incidentally its a 70s recording anyway isnt it,albeit an early one
dave
I understood that Seventy 7 leased it from Impel in '71 for release - in the same year as the recording and original release. But I always thought the Seventy 7 was common and still only a few dollars because that charted, so it must have sold a few.
Great record (wouldn't mind upgrading to an Impel), but shame it got flogged to death.
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Must admit that I've only read a few posts, because it's not really entertaining me enough.
However, I was an extra in a film which was based around another scene (from the 60s
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After all the hoo-ha and 2 days and 1 night of filming, our bits were backdrop for less than 10mins of the movie - and that part focused so much on the central characters' drama in the club venues, that the background was superfluous.
'Normal' people who watched it, didn't even notice the things we wanted to get "right".
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Hi can anyone tell me how much it is to post a 45 to Australia please.
Thanks in advance
Dolly
I depends on the size and weight of your parcel.
It's simple to look up all postage on the ROYAL MAIL WEBSITE
Another problem solved
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I was thinking the same or do you only have to sell three copies to get that high on the charts
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Doug Parkinson was a well known pop star in Oz who later regularly appreared on numerous variety shows and local clubs, etc. If you're in your 30s/40s, he's the type of singer your mum probably liked.
Anyone seriously interested, can read his bio [ CLICK HERE ] which also highlight his other talents.
Not having a go at anyone who appreciates his voice, but I doubt the uk soulies in Oz would even take notice if he didn't have one track played out a bit on the northern scene in the uk.
...and yes George (sunnysoul) - I remember that night at St Elmo's (and others there), but for me - the Hip Hop club in the mid 80s and 'The Site' weekly soul nights in the late 80s hold special memories (along with later soul nights/weekenders we girls ran).
Gawd, now I really feel old and tired
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how many djs would play for nowt
well in Sydney, we pay to get in to the nights to help the promoters break even . We Dj for nothing and we all have a great time ...no ego's or problems....just a common love for the music and a need to keep it going
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That's a shame. I remember we never charged the dj's for entry. Personally, I think it's wrong due to the wear on vinyl.
(As you'd recall, in the late 90s, we girls also did well enough to regularly pay the dj's.)
No egos or problems there?
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10) My all time fave track...Frankie Valli and the four seasons - The Night
Sneer if you wish...they are all tunes I love...some might not be underpayed or particularly rare...but hey...im not anal
I must admit ...I noticed that you'd posted a stack of photos of yourself (just after joining recently) in the section where most people post up their soul event photos - and therefore I wondered if you'd be another young lad seeking attention and post things others would argue about.
However, after seeing a list of your favourite records - it's no wonder you don't like Tommy.
You're absolutely right though : we are all entitled to our opinions and soul "taste" is very subjective.
I wish every record I liked was disliked, coz I'm very fond of collecting spares
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New Zealand 45s
in Look At Your Box
I used to give them away if anyone staying over fancied one, as they were $2 or less. However, certain more obscure NS releases command somewhat more now
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Some years back, Frank Driscoll wrote some info for Flynny on Oz releases (which was an extension for the one he wrote for our Sydney hosted 2000 National Oz Weekender magazine - that you might remember Pete?) .
[ READ it on Dave Flynn's website here ]
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ps. to be honest, I thought I had next to no Oz releases, but have recently found about 20 or so amongst my bits...
I'd assumed they were British