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    without being a psychoanalyst I suppose it has something to do with the thrilll some may get from "having had a bid on so and so...could have won it if not blabla..."

    Spot on Mark, makes good conversation for some folk.

    Hear it all the time 'I bid on the---------------on ebay but got beat'

    Yeah, got beat cos you put £30 on a £500 recordwanker.gif

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    All US originals. P&P £1.50 for up to 3. Paypal only please to sas.aircon@hotmail.com (or PM).

    JOHNNY COPELAND –Suffering city – Jetstream M- 20 SOLD SOLD SOLD

    EXSAVEYONS – I don't love you no more – Smoke M- 35

    PEARLEAN GREY – I don't wanna cry – Green Sea w/d (vinyl) VG+ 40

    HAROLD MELVIN – Get out – Landa VG++ (pen on vinyl at run out groove, nap ) 40

    SHIRLEY WAHLS – That's how long/Why am I crying – King VG+ (sol) 45

    AL WILSON – Now i know what love is – Soul City EX 15

    ESQUIRES – Dancing a hole in the world – Rocky Ridge EX 20

    VOICE BOX – I want it back – Loma w/d EX 20

    NONO STARR – Pull yourself together – Midas M- (pressing flaw nap) 10

    RAY GANT & ARABIAN KNIGHTS – True love/Don't leave me – Jay Walking EX 15

    WALTER JACKSON – My ship is coming in – Okeh VG 5

    SAM FLETCHER – More today than yesterday – Vault EX 10 SOLD SOLD SOLD

    ROBERT EARL – Say you'll be mine – Carol EX 10

    DON & JUAN – Are you putting me on the shelf – Twirl w/d M- labels EX 35

    EDDIE HILL – I can hear you crying – GE GE M- 10 SOLD SOLD SOLD

    JOE-L – I'm not gonna be worried – Clissac M- 15

    NOLAN STRONG – Mind over matter – Fortune VG+ 15

    LOU RAWLS – Dead end street – Capitol EX 10 SOLD SOLD SOLD

    EDDIE HOLAND – Jamie – Motown VG+ 20

    NF PORTER – Keep on keeping on – Lizard VG+ 15

    Thanks for looking thumbsup.gif

    Appreciate that you were just asking the guy to share the charges - but in his answer the seller describes the circumstances pretty much as I see them.

    Makes me feel better - although not you obviously.

    MB

    yes sure, but it would have been better if I'd been aware of this, I suppose I would still have bought it, but maybe all the bidders would have bid a little lower and possibly the finish price may have been slightly lesswhistling

    as they say 'all water under the bridge' now:rolleyes:

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    Problem I have Nev is lack of communication,

    I sent the seller a 'reasonable' e-mail asking if he would consider helping out with the charges, in my case there was no mention up front of any conditions regarding the customs declaration, the 45 was declared as 'merchandise' with full price listedangry.gif , after a fortnight still no reply, I also copied the mail and sent that via e-bays message function, but still..........nothing

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

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    After Pete got this rolling this morning I sent another 'nudge' to my sellar

    This time he responded.

    For anyone interested Attached below copies of communication

    RE: ebay item

    From:

    mark whiteley (sas.aircon@hotmail.com)

    Sent:

    21 January 2010 17:57:47

    To:

    ********************@gmail.com

    Hi David, record arrived UK on Monday of last week.

    Firstly let me say this is a lovely copy, just as described and well packed - Many thanks for that.

    What I am upset about however is the fact that you declared the record as 'merchandise' with the full purchase price shown on the customs declaration. This resulted in the package being held by Parcelforce (The UK's UPS Partner) pending payment of import duty, holding fees and full UK Tax. This cost me £87 uk pounds to release and finally recieve the record late Friday afternoon.

    I have purchased many hundreds of records from the States from private individuals to Major dealers and have never had this happen before. The usual method is to tick the 'Gift' box rather than 'Merchandise' which would then exempt the item from the associated charges, this in no way affects the insured value but does exempt the purchaser from these awful charges.

    I feel that I paid 'Top Dollar' for the record and this additional cost has kind of tipped the balance on what was a decent price and wondered if you would consider helping out in any way................... just a thought.

    I have retained the packaging and customs declaration plus the UK charges letter and can supply copies to you to verify this.

    Let me know your views

    Best regards

    Mark

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    RE: ebay item

    From:

    mark whiteley (sas.aircon@hotmail.com)

    Sent:

    05 February 2010 12:11:43

    To:

    ******************@gmail.com

    Hi David, did you get my last e-mail?

    M.

    　

    Re: ebay item

    From:

    David *************@gmail.com)

    Sent:

    05 February 2010 16:25:44

    To:

    mark whiteley (sas.aircon@hotmail.com)

    Yes, we received your email. I wrote to eBay and am waiting their response. I do not think it is reasonable to expect me to pay the customs charges in your country for what is rightfully merchandise. I'm sorry that you had to pay to receive your package, but I own a record store next to the post office and I am not in a position where I can lie on a form at the post office. They know who I am and what my shop sells, which is of course merchandise. As for your having paid top dollar for the item and therefore being entitled to demand the seller pay the customs charge, I did not set the price for the item. It was determined by the number of bids. I am sorry for the expense but it is part of ordering merchandise from overseas. This is how we have always declared the handful of records our shop puts online. If you feel you must complain to eBay I'm sure they will contact us both and resolve it.

    Dave **************

    RE: ebay item

    From:

    mark whiteley (sas.aircon@hotmail.com)

    Sent:

    05 February 2010 17:07:56

    To:

    ******************@gmail.com

    Hi david, thanks for the reply.

    I'm not sure writing to e-bay will have any effect as this has no bearing on the transaction.

    Of course I'm aware that the bidders finally decided the finishing price, and was only saying that the additional charges made it much less of a bargain.

    As far as the 'entitled to demand the sellar pays the customs charge' goes where on earth have you conjured that one up from?

    I merely asked if 'you would consider helping out in any way'

    Your response makes it quite obvious that you have considered and come up with a definate NO.

    As far as being part of the process of ordering from overseas, many regular record sellers will state that 'Items will not be shipped as 'Gift' and will be declared at finishing value'

    Perhaps something you may consider using in future!

    Thank You For taking the time to reply - eventually

    MW.

    　

    I think I can consider this one Closed

    M.

    Mikey

    If that is the value that is going to be used to calculate a VAT/Duty payment - putting a lower value is almost certainly a fraud.

    That's why they don't want to falsify the value.

    Sorry if it goes against the grain - but I am just trying to tell it as it is.

    If I am wrong on this I am sure someone will put me straight.

    MB

    According to a regular sellar I raised this point with, 'UPS aren't interested in what you put on the customs declaration, their insured value is based on what you pay in postage, so presumably the declaration 'should' have no bearing on any claim filed'

    Not something I would like to put to the test thoughno.gif

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    Easiest way to deal with these people is to let them know when it arrives ,it's being held in customs untill i pay the charge ,which i'm not going to .

    I then tell them if i don't pay ,it'll be returned and i want a full refund cos i payed with paypal .

    Ok you don't wanna send your beloved holy grail back but you can negotiate a bit of compo to cover the cost ,it works cos i ve done it a few times:yes:

    I also tell them i won't deal with em ever again and that i'll inform all my UK collector buddies to steer clear:wicked: (which is a blatant lie cos i ain't got any):laugh:

    Problem I have Nev is lack of communication,

    I sent the seller a 'reasonable' e-mail asking if he would consider helping out with the charges, in my case there was no mention up front of any conditions regarding the customs declaration, the 45 was declared as 'merchandise' with full price listed:angry: , after a fortnight still no reply, I also copied the mail and sent that via e-bays message function, but still..........nothing

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

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    I think we as a group should be marking our feedback with something we all recognise, as a way of identifying who these sellers are, and lowering our bids by 20% or so ( and every time we win something we should write back to the seller to say " I would have bid 20% higher, as would all rare soul collectors but you chose to take this stance, so you lose 20% of every sale")

    These particular sellers have at least marked their item page with the info to say they won't play ball on charges, others have in the past told me they would, and then when they post the parcel I find they didn't.

    How about some letters, like W.F.H.W.C, or C.M.A.F.I.V. or D.D.R.F.O.R.W.Z.

    Wonder what ebay would make of it if we all started using these?

    Same happened here, turned what was a 'fair' price into 'over the odds'.

    11.99 import duty

    62.08 VAT

    13.50 Parcelforce handling charge

    87.50 total,

    Plus 30 mile round trip to collect from PF depotangry.gif

    Guess who's not too thrilled

    M.

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