Pete S
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The 'madchester' thing was my youth too. I was 16 in 1990 and it was a great time to be around at that age. The mondays were great! OK they were not beaming with talent but they were very entertaining and got kids up on the dancefloor.
It was much better than the Nirvana grunge movement and britpop. They were closest you would get to the Pistols for attitude imo. Oasis would have loved to have been the Mondays in their prime.
Shane
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Would you like to name a Mondays song that stands up to any Nirvana song?
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Why bother going to allnighters to watch barely adequate DJ's spin old 45's when you can see this lot?
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Because they are the most untalented, useless bunch of c*nts ever to make a record??
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....and one of Pete's copies came from me for the princely sum of £22!!
I need a holiday..................
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Yeah it did - from R & T wasn't it? 1990? Nobody was interested in it then, I sold it for £50 I think and thought that was a good deal at the time. Lovely black issue Gene eh? I got 2 more out of Record Collector and a demo off Ebay which nobody else saw
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Can anyone tell the value of an "A" Label demo Mark Loyd, "When I'm Gonna Find Her", in excellent+ condition?
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Well it's actually the B side so When Evening Falls is the A label...couldn't tell you the value now, a couple of years ago it went through the roof, I sold 3 issues for £150 each and only Richie will remember what he gave me for the demo but I'm sure it included Lonnie Russ!
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Whats on the EP ??
any good?
just out of curiosity
the gasher
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It's a track called You My Love or Oh My Love, sounds just like Run Away but with only half the backing band playing. If it wasn't rare nobody would play it. Muggins here once bought the 7" Run Away thinking it was the EP, cost me £40 about 6 years ago and took me about 5 years to sell it!
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I've got some of what are generally considered to be 100% soul classics in my own little collection - nor originals - Springers, Cairos, Eddie Parker, Ray Pollard, Del Larks, Magnetics and so on and so on - but I've also got Paula Parfitt, I've got Mark Loyd, I've got Rain Out of my mind - but I love all of them, I don't have separate sections for soul and pop, they're all Northern Soul as far as I'm concerned and thats why I enjoyed the 70's more than any other period, because to grow up at that time with those records was such an experience...Afternoon of the rhino, Hot line, Theres that mountain, Strings a gogo (sic), Tainted love....even then there were shit records though, Marc Copage springs to mind. But if you give me a choice at this point in my life as to what period I could go back to it would have to be 75 to 77.
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i am no authority on soul and have little experience compared to a lot of you but I thought Stafford arrived just in time to destroy all the crap they were playing in the latter days of wigan. Someone correct me if i am wrong as i am speaking from second hand information. I have been fan of rare soul since about 1990 and since then I have noticed an abundance of Wigan revival nights but very little events referring to Stafford. Well it looks like this is changing with the introduction of the Stafford reunion allnighter courtesy of Chris Waterman and the team. I for one am much more excited about this than any wigan revival.
Just my opinion. I am not knocking what happened in the day as I am just more keen on the future. We have to live the future afterall!
Shane
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Shane - this is my opinion, see if anyone else agrees with me. Wigan up to and including most of 1977, I can't say a bad word about the music. The very end of 77, and most of 78 was poor. This is when we had the Sue Lynns, Gene Latters, Helen Shapiro's etc - records that I have nothing against, but there was too much British stomp stomp stuff being played. So I stopped going. Then, at the end of 78, John Anderson hit a purple patch and Richard broke some of the best records ever over the next 18 months, from Cecil Washington to John & The Weirdest to The Lovers to Eddie Daye and so on. Unfortunately, the place was only half full by then except for the oldies allnighter which was always a packer. I never went to a saturday at the Casino again except for the final night which I wouldn't have missed for the world. But, apart from the hideous modern stuff and the playing of modern 12"ers which lasted 20 minutes, the music in the last 2 years of the Casino was as good as anything before or since. It was just that 18 month period before that when the worst of the music was played and unfortunately people now say that we spent our nights dancing to Joe 90 and Tony Blackburn - I personally NEVER heard Joe 90 and Tony Blackburn was played for maybe 2 weeks as a cover up.
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I prefer my soul to have a bit more class and more of an edge. Not the dreaded wigan poppy sounds. Great then I imagine but things have moved on.
Shane
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It was a lot more fun in the 70's, I can tell you. A record didn't have to pass a colour test before it got played, we just used to enjoy the music and enjoy the scene. Everyone says that 'soul police' don't exist today - of course they do, take a look at yourselves. How many of you would play Jon Ford or I've Been Hurt Shane Martin nowadays? Why not? They sound great loud and were good to dance to.
As for JV playing the original Footsee - lines have to be drawn somewhere
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...or not? Just thinking it could be useful for brightening up compilation tapes, slipping a few of these after tracks like...
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We can expect a list this week then Pete ?
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Seriously, don't think I'm going to do a list this week, I'm just going to sell all those acetates I did for myself, I've sold a few things privately already this week (Lee Roye issue was one) but I think I'll leave it til next week maybe. Anyway all I've really had this week has been ska stuff...
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I know a lot of you were following my Worst Ebay Cock Up Of All Time thread and laughing your bollocks off at me
anyway would you believe it, the records have actually shown up! This means I can keep the death row slippers and dressing gown and auction them on ebay as execution memorabilia. I am also going to attempt to extract DNA from a toenail I found in the slippers so that I can create my own mass murderer, who I will unleash on the dj's at 'Original Vinyl Only' events.
As for the records, they were utter shite, maybe about 20 soul 45's all really common like COD's, Impressions, Four Tops, but there was a copy of The Zombies 'Time of the season' which is great, The Beat Merchants ' Pretty Face', and "12,000 Girl Scouts sing America's national favourites' in a picture sleeve., so all in all, a load of cack.
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Perhaps in the point number 10 about having no history, BB means that if you win the lottery, buy a load of Shrine, etc rareities it would not make you a DJ. If you don't have a history on the scene, you will soon find out that playing a bunch a rare sounds one after the other will not make a happy bunch of punters and will not turn you into a "Northern/rare" Soul expert.
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Very good explanation Paul and totally spot on.
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NICE ONE.............
AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED:
1. IF THE VENUE IS PLAYING CDS THEN IT IS NOT PART OF THE SCENE.
2. IF A DJ IS PLAYING CDS THEN HE SHOULD BE SHOT.
3.IF THE DJ IS NOT BEING CREATIVE HE SHOULD NOT BE TRYING TO BE A DJ!
4.IF HE CANNOT PLAY FROM THE HEART THEN HE SHOULD GO HOME AND STAY THERE.
5. IF HE CANT PLAY A POUND RECORD THAT IS BRILLIANT THEN HE SHOULD NOT BE ON THE SCENE!
6.IF HE PLAYS 20 UNKNOWNS BACK TO BACK HE SHOULD BE REMOVED.
7. IF HE PLAYS 20 TIRED OLDIES BACK TO BACK HE SHOULD BE REMOVED.
8. IF HE IS PRETENDING TO BE A DJ THEN HE SHOULD AT LEAST LEARN HOW TO DJ
9. IF HE DOES NOT KNOW A RECORD THEN HE SHOULD HAVE THE BALLS TO ASK SOMEBODY WHO DOES!
10.IMPORTANT-IF YOU HAVE NOT GOT A HISTORY THEN YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT GOT A FUTURE!
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Notice that John's 10 Commandments do not mention that you have to play original vinyl anywhere.
This is a guy who I think I would easily put in my top 3 dj's of all time.
Though that might be something to do with 'history'
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I figured it out. Someone took the regular old Billy Butler "Right Track" and ran it through a sound program where you can change the pitch without changing the tempo. They basically pitched it up about an octave higher to fake a female vocalist.
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Wow, never heard of this program, any idea what it's called
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Would you pay £20 to £50 for this lp, Pete?I must say I've always found the practice of dubbing album tracks to seven inch lacquer for the purpose of 'northern soul' deejaying quaint. Yes the music is louder, but so too are any distortions, blips, noises etc., so it's rather counter-productive. As for the convenience issue of carting round a bag of albums: who said it was meant to be easy; the logical extension of this is setting up an MP3 player and playing sets comprised of downloads. Those players are smaller than a packet of fags.
What gets my goat is that people often pass of these dubs as something they are clearly not. On his last comeback tour Levine even (allegedly) played the Magnificent Men's "Keep On Climbing" from such a source with a bogus Capitol acetate label! What a sad twat. I believe it was he who started doing this in the first place, with things like Willie Hutch "Lucky To Be Loved" at The Mecca.
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No, I wouldn't pay that, but I did back in about 1990.
Nothing wrong with lp tracks on 7"...I've got rufus lumley 'stronger' on 7", looks great on a white RCA demo
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Mad For It
in All About the SOUL
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Oh come on. Saying The Mondays were better than Nirvana is like saying Tom Jones is a better soul singer than Levi Stubbs.
Once again; they had no talent; they had no songs; they could barely play their instruments; their singer couldn't sing.
And before anyone says 'sounds like the Sex Pistols'...they had everything and paved the way for the talentless oafs and overrated druggies from Madchester.
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no offence like