Simsy

Great posting mate, save for me saying CLG is Northern - was actually the opposite, or if a sh*t load less famous etc.

You say that like it's a fact, when in reality, that's just your opinion. That is a fact and like it or not, it subtracts credibility from your statements.

Interesting..

Is this Black Aces Of Soul esq situ a similar sort of thing to the first time the Carstairs was played at the Highland Room?

Main room to other, you'd be going round in 'Circles' ..!

Okay why not.. For me at least, a lack of anything close to a soul dance beat. That's what I pay the twelve quid or whatever for.

Have to agree with your stance mate and Yes (for me at least) CLG serves as perhaps a seldom seen and valid example of superior soul being available commercially. Over and above that, I do like most of his stuff as to my ear, his vocal has soul. I remember 'Rehab' getting spins at a couple of southern nights a few years back..

It worries me too. I would rather hear a proper northern newie (regardless of value) any day of the week.

Okay so is it a fair argument to say look for the underplayed and undiscovered SOUL, as opposed to so called third rate chart soul or funk?

Agree with Winnie there Chalks. End of the day if remixed Cee Lo numbers have been played, then it is to do with ns. Interesting debate this. "All About The Soul'.. Don't think anyone has said CLG has not got soul and whilst there may be a place for funk it's interesting to hear the pro's & cons of each. Own personal take at this stage wouldn't be more CLG or Funk, but northern underplayed's, b sides and if poss new 60's soul discoveries.

That's a well measured fair assessment mate. Tell me, were there other tracks of interest on those cd's?

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He did indeed say that and he was right. Yet he knew there would be mileage in it and he was right there as well. I've certainly enjoyed it, had a couple of calls and pm's over the weekend all civil and well mannered which I am pleased about. I do think also it is great that we can stop and stoke chins on the subject of northern newie spin offerings balanced against something possibly more soulful and or danceable available commercially elsewhere.

You are right Dave, the 100 Club is not the Benn Hall. Although most of the 100 Jocks (save for Butch) including Ady have played there. Then we enter the realms of southern northern soul v northern northern soul - remember that thread? I have it somewhere.. I've got a couple of hour spots at the September Rugby, in the freestyle room. If we don't clash, I'll pop in and you can teach me how to dance funk! Seriously though, thanks for the cd. I'm not closed minded, if they're good they're good! Just gotta get over this dancing hump! Camaraderie, records, beer, John Weston ... These are some of the reasons we go, though dancing... Dancing is key!

If you and Cunnie were playing at the Benn Hall say, and you were in the main room cue-ing up Black Aces and Cunnie was cue-ing up the 'I Want You' edit in the freestlyle room, I'd head there like a shot, end of story. Head for the soul, stone me! I deserve that after the hooter grabbing gaffe!

Mick H was playing as we left the 100 mate. We'd done the old "see what he plays next" for 3 or 4 records and then decided to split. I'll be honest, it was your 'Wall' I went to for that funk track and I did give it a listen. Again being honest, it's exactly the sort of thing that isn't my cup of tea. Primarily because the dance beat is not a soul beat - even modern has a better beat (to dance to) than funk imo. I appreciate there a goodly number of dj's (I hold in high esteem), Dave Abbott, Karl Herd and yourself amongst them that are playing newer funkier discoveries. I understand why, I accept the sense in the action, but it does not necessarily mean I like it. Don't take it personally mate, it wasn't a slight on you. Even if a set or part of a set wasn't to my taste, I wouldn't come up and say "your sets shit mate, we're off" lol. No this whole thread is borne out of a comment on facebook that said it's a shame imo that there are more soulful commercial acts in the charts than some of the newer stuff being broken at places where I like to go to dance.

I don't want this thread to descend into chaos. I've baited Gareth enough and I would just like to keep it on topic. Petty differences spilling over from earlier threads isn't on. Would rather keep the thread open, so please play nice and don't ask for sweets!

I thought you had got things a bit mixed up in all honesty - the ballad track with the more uptempo one for starters. The point of the thread I didn't think you'd fully grasped really. "Suffering" reference was me/us suffering at the hands of your pomposity pistol! Send me your number and I'll give you a call later if you're around? I would like to keep the thread on topic.

Caro Emerald

Thank God he doesn't do any funk numbers eh! Threaten you? Where the f*** did you get that from??? I think you need to calm down and move on, or at least stop continually getting the wrong end of the stick!

A soul-less fool, oh deary dear. What is a boy to do? Suffering is at hand with your continued pomposity pistol.

Righteousness is unequivocally on my side. Whereas you sir have goofed spectacularly!

I agree on the underplayed part Vince and fortunately there are still some venues that stick to this. I would still personally rather hear the Cee Lo edit in post 23 than the funk one - maybe in the other room..

Was this explanation insufficient ? I think comparing a commercial soul artist's output to a new genre of allnighter dancer is particularly relevant. I find the Best/Rugby analogy poor too be honest.