Dave Thorley
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Ok here my bit…………….
I got the two 10” discs about 82 from John Anderson at Soul Bowl. I was on one of my regular trips down there with Ady Pountain and had spent up my budget for the trip, in there was the first copy of The Empires, the white test pressing of Geno Washington — Rat Race and a bunch of other things, at the end of the day, we totalled everything up and I paid John. Now he had this awful habit of then pulling out a few things, playing them to you and saying ‘what do you think of this’, he played the two discs and I said ‘fantastic John, but I can’t afford them’ he smiled and said ‘that’s OK you can owe me for them’ and so I went into the famous credit book for the first, but not last time !!! They cost me £600 for the two, which was about 3 month’s wages back then.
I remember driving home with Ady beaming from ear to ear and discussing which tracks to cover up. So on the way home we came up with Johnny & The Mondells for the The Empires and The Detroit Five for the Geno Washington.
John told me at the time I got them that he had got them from the Leaner Brothers in Chicago. One disc had ‘baby what has happened/Win you over’ and the other ‘All of my life/???(Ballad). As soon as I got home I got ‘All of my life/Win you over’ cut onto a 7” acetate. The 10” discs were blank with no info on the discs, but titles written on the sleeves, common for acetates, I have many like that. I didn’t cut ‘Baby what has happened’ as I already had a copy. A week later these and the two cover ups hit the decks at Stafford and the rest is history, as they say. When Stafford finished I sold a large part of my 60’s collection back to John Anderson including these two acetates, he then sold them onto a guy in Ipswich. I did try and buy them back in the early 90’s, but he said he didn’t want to sell them. After selling them I did carry on playing the 7” dub, my choice, right or wrong !!!!, and still have it to this day. A couple of years ago John Manship contacted me to tell me he had them and was going to auction them and could I help authenticate them which I happily did. As for Tim Brown’s comments on his CD, he never asked me about the discs, but did make comment that the naming of the group for these tracks was spurious, well clearly not, especially as one of them had ‘Baby what has happened’ on one side.
The story has a twist in the tail, Butch rang me to ask me about the discs, as he was interested in bidding on them. A week later he told me he had won them and I thought no more of it. A couple of weeks later, he rang me again to tell me the discs were no good for DJing, it transpires that he took them to Lifeline, having not played them at home first. When he dropped the needle on ‘All of my life’ the sound was two low a level for the sound system there and he had to take it off half way through. After a moments pause I said, ‘Now I remember why I had them cut onto a 7” dub plate’ !!!!!!!
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Perfections - Girl you better hurry - Tri-City £175 +P&P (Mint)
Hard to find Chocker Cambell produced, Michigan midtempo 60's group dancer
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Last one 4 2day
Andre Williams - You got it and I want it - Ric Tic £20 +P&P (Mint)
Same backing as the supa rare Fabulous Apollos - Determination. Killa Detroit dancer at a fraction of the price !!!!!!!!!!!
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Sound clips for all on my site www.topdogrecords.co.uk
- I.U. Soul Revue featuring The Lovemen - Music is just a party - Afro-Amersican Arts Institute £100 +P&P (VG+)
Hard to find funky modern soul dancer
- Intensions - I don't care anymore - Bluelight £55 +P&P (Mint-)
Cool midtempo 60's group dancer
- Ronnie McNeir - You better come on down / Saggitarian affair - Prodigal £15 +P&P (Mint)
70's Detroit modern soul classic 2 sider
- Ralph Young - Cool Off The Floor - Goldband £45 +P&P (Mint)
Cool NOLA modern soul funky dancer
- Rozetta Johnson - A womans way / Mine was real - Clinton £25 +P&P (VG+)
Sam Dees produced crossover 2 sided stunner
- I.U. Soul Revue featuring The Lovemen - Music is just a party - Afro-Amersican Arts Institute £100 +P&P (VG+)
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Funny how these rumors spread. It seems it comes from a discussion on Discogs (A rival). But in reality, all my payments have come through fine. They did have an office move, which seems to slowed down a few payments. But don't think their in real trouble. See a part of the Discogs thread below................
Hot on the heels of Netsounds being snapped up by Musicstack, is the GEMM marketplace in trouble? A couple of threads in the Musicstack seller lounge where some (though not all) sellers who use GEMM as well as Musicstack have been concerned about the delays in receiving payments from GEMM for sales and lack of communication and transparency regarding why the payments are late. Note that GEMM, unlike Discogs and Musicstack, handles the payments for transactions between buyers and sellers; so if you're selling on GEMM, you receive the proceeds from your sales on GEMM from GEMM itself, minus their commission.
Any sellers here on Discogs also sell on GEMM and have experienced the same problem?
Whilst the more online marketplaces there are for selling music, the better, as a dominant position by any one marketplace will most likely tempt them to leverage that dominance by charging a higher commission than their competitors but GEMM have singularly failed to innovate or build on their first-mover advantage. I used them (as a buyer) about the time that I started using eBay back in 2002 but apparently they've been around since 1994. In the time since I first used them, the website's appearance and functionality has barely changed so if they are in trouble, then it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I remember receiving a newsletter around 18 months ago that had an almost pleading tone, trying to entice the recipients back to the site; am guessing that was sent due to a consistent decline in web traffic.
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Someone told me that Gemm was having financial problems, can anyone on here shed any more light on this ????
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Andre Williams - You got it and I want it - Ric Tic £20 +P&P (Mint)
Same backing as the supa rare Fabulous Apollos - Determination. Killa Detroit dancer at a fraction of the price !!!!!!!!!!!
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He's a few interesting LP 4 you
- Okeh - Various artists (Double Pack) - Epic Still Sealled £20 +P&P
Found a couple of these in an old record store in the U.S. A double pack LP set, put out in 1982, stuffed full of rare soul classic from the label, now hard to find and this one is still sealed.
See track listing in scan.....................
- Disco Tech #2 - Various Artists - Motown £15 +P&P Mint-
Cool LP stuffed full of Motown 70's dancers including Eddie Kendricks - Date with the rain
- Quartet Of Soul 2 - Various Artists - Musicor £30 +P&P Mint
Dancers from the Platters, Tommy Hunt, Jive Five, Inez & Charlie Foxx
- His Way With The Girls - Various Artists - Soul Supply £10 +P&P Mint
Classic girl 60's dancers, Paula Durante, Martha Starr, Vivian Carroll, Sherrys, Ella Woods + more
- Spanky Wilson - Specialty Of The House - 20th Century £50 Mint-
Al Kent produced stunner, with the LP only monster crossover side 'Easy Lover'
- Okeh - Various artists (Double Pack) - Epic Still Sealled £20 +P&P
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Sons Of Moses - Soul Symphony - Coral £30 +P&P (Mint)
Piano intro, stabbing horns, instrumentals come no better, stomping time baby ....
Sensations with Yvonne Baker - I can't change - Junior £75 +P&P (VG+)
Great version of the Lorraine Chandler song, rarer fist issue orange label
Sam Waymon - You can count on me - Ninandy £20 +P&P (Mint)
Uptempo 60's Stafford classic dancer
Sargeant Malone - Love message - Halfmoon £140 +P&P (Mint)
Oh so hard to find 45 of this modern soul stunner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIaDsYVpWhs
Sam Dees & Bettye Swann - Just as sure - Big Tree £30 +P&P (Mint-)
Only on the hard to find issue, stunning midtempo crossover
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7 Day Unlimited - Dirt (In the sky) - Acacia Street Gang £145 +P&P (Mint)
Much rarer west coast label, for this one time Keb Darge monster, Oh so soulful midtempo 70's group dancer
Roy Hamilton - You shook me up - RCA £120 +P&P (Stone Mint)
Classic 60's, big production midtempo dancer, here on a nice demo
Billy The Kid Emerson - The Whip - Mpac £30 +P&P (VG+)
Classic 60's Chicago R&B
Spanky Wilson - Specialty Of The House LP - 20TH Century £50 +P&P (Mint/Mint-)
Oh so rare LP, recorded in Detroit, produced by Al Kent. Includes the LP only crossover stunner 'Easy Lover'. Up there with Gloria Scott............
Brothers Of Soul - Come on back - Boo £85 +P&P (VG+)
Bridges, Knight & Eaton at their very best. Nice Orange first press copy
Counts (Our love's gonna be) Stronger than ever - Yes £150 +P&P (Mint-)
Thumpin' uptempo 60's group dancer
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Hi All
www.topdogrecords.co.uk
Another big site update, over 300 new titles across the site, usual mix 'From the hard to find, Too the just plain good' including
- 21st Century - Shadow of a memory/Coming right back - Dot W/D £150
- Zulema - Wanna be where you are - Rca £30
- Willie Pickett - On the stage of life - Soul Spot £350
- Wes Black - I feel good - Star West £60
- Freedom - Can't you see - Freedom £85
- Dynamic Heartbeats - It ain't no secret - PS £50
- Don Hannah - I got your number - Ar'Nett £75
- Mystics - Steppin stones - Olimpia £40
- Nina Simone - My baby just cares for me - Bethlehem £50
- Samuel T. Robinson - Take time to go crazy - Vimla £50
- Significants - Funky party/I'm in ecstacy - Alesvers £200
- Silk & Satin - You got to be the one - Hamilton £55
- Honey Due Twins - Come on baby - Yam-Bo £350
- Kim Weston - A thrill a moment - Gordy £55
Plus many, many more. Thanks for looking, sound files on the site, hope you find something you like.
www.topdogrecords.co.uk
Dave & Malayka
- 21st Century - Shadow of a memory/Coming right back - Dot W/D £150
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Was a big tune at both Yate & Stafford, found my copy in a junk shop in Swindon, by the old tech collage around 77/78. Sold it to John Anderson in the mid 80's. Think that was the copy that he then sold to Richard Searling, that he was then playing on the radio in the late80's/early 90's
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Plus a few more
Little Beaver & The Rocketeers - I feel my love - Octavia £175 +P&P (VG+)
Thumpin' 60's Florida dancer, killa horns just drive this winner along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyK78YD9Qbg
High Voltage - Country Road - Columbia White Demo £40 +P&P (Mint)
Classic funky group dancer from 1972
Eldorados - In over my hear/You make my heart sing - Torrid £30 +P&P (Mint-, slightest warp, but plays mint)
What a great Chicago group crossover 2 sider
Fontella Bass & Bobby McClure - Don't jump/You'll miss me - Checker £12 +P&P (Mint)
2 great 60's duet dancers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mleM77Ii8TE
Al Kent - The way you've been acting lately - Ric Tic £25 +P&P (Mint)
One of the great Detroit recording, impassioned vocals, Al Kent & Herman Weems production, a classic !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Valerie Lamar - Shame/I don't want your lovin' - Dee Dee £175 +P&P (VG+)
Chicago oh so soulful 2 sider, 'A Stafford Classic'
Velvet - It's the right thing to do - Love-Lite £30 +P&P (Mint- Vinyl, some water staining to label)
Oh so sweet group harmony crossover outta Chcago, here on the much rarer local label
Up From The Bottom - That's the way the world will be - True £15 +P&P (Mint)
Later re-make of the great Chicag song, James Dockery production
Vondells - Valentino - Marvello £75 +P&P (Looks VG, but plays with hardly any noise)
Killa 60's group dancer, with same backing as 'Arabia', same writer and production team, what a suprise !!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqkW9uGv1g
Walter Hawkins & The Family - He brought me - Light £25 +P&P (Mint)
Killa Modern Soul-Gospel dancer from 1977
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Sound files for all on my site www.topdogrecords.co.uk or on Youtube
- Eldorados - In over my hear/You make my heart sing - Torrid £30 +P&P (Mint-, slightest warp, but plays mint)
What a great Chicago group crossover 2 sider
- Fontella Bass & Bobby McClure - Don't jump/You'll miss me - Checker £12 +P&P (Mint)
2 great 60's duet dancers
- Floyd Beck - Show me - Timeless £45 +P&P (Mint)
Polished midtempo early 80's modern soul outta Phittsburg
- Al Kent - The way you've been acting lately - Ric Tic £25 +P&P (Mint)
One of the great Detroit recording, impassioned vocals, Al Kent & Herman Weems production, a classic !!!!!!!!!!!!
- The Imagination - Love diet - 20th Century £25 +P&P (Mint)
Stunning sweet group vocals, Tom Tom 75 arranged swirling strings, a killa
- Inez Foxx - You shouldn't have set my soul on fire - Dynamo £15 +P&P (Mint)
Killa crossover from Inez
- Eldorados - In over my hear/You make my heart sing - Torrid £30 +P&P (Mint-, slightest warp, but plays mint)
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Can't Youtube to work on here today, so sound files for all on Youtube or on my site www.topdogrecords.co.uk
- Ray Batts - Love me - Faces £80 +P&P (Mint)
Pretty mid 70's southern crossover dancer
- Krystal - False alarm - Magic touch £15 +P&P (Mint)
Lenny LaCour produced modern soul stepper, masterpiece
- Kevin Drinkard - I wanna thank you/World world - Teen's £10 +P&P (Mint)
70's Chicago oh so soulful 2 sider
- King Arthur - Hey baby - Soundscape £55 +P&P (Mint)
Oh so pretty 70's funky modern dancer
- Reuben Bell - Meet me half way - Alarm £15 +P&P (Mint)
Deep soul 2 sided stunner
- Richard C - I want you back - Sho-Boat £30 +P&P (Mint)
Oh so soulful Memphis modern classic
- Richard Popcorn Wylie - E.S.P./Georgia after hours - ABC £15 +P&P (Mint)
Look at the credits on this, then tell me you don't want one. Written by Wylie & Dozier, Produced by McKinley Jackson, Arranged by Gene Page, Paul Riser & McKinley Jackson. Stunning mid 70's soulful 2 sider.................
- Ray Batts - Love me - Faces £80 +P&P (Mint)
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John Gilliam - Come back Carol - ICA £15 +P&P (Mint)
AKA Johnny Gilliam or J.G. Lewis, the man with the awesome deep voice does it again
Original Breed - The Prophet - Karol £20 +P&P (VG+)
Awesome midtempo Chicago group crossover
Oscar Weathers - When you see what you want - Sirloin £20 +P&P (Mint)
Much rarer local Jackson, Ms. first release of this sweet modern soul winner from 75
J.E. Morsan - By my side - M.G.S. £25 +P&P (Mint)
Joe Hunter produced Detroit crossover soul winner
Jean Carn - Was that all it was - PIR - £15 +P&P (Stone Mint)
Stunning Philly classic
Jerry Weaver - I'm in love - TMI - £15 +P&P (Mint)
Oh so pretty Neil Hemphill (Sound Of Birmingham) produced crossover soul
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Johnson Family - Peace in the family - Atlantic White Demo £55 +P&P (VG+)
Much harder white demo of this mid sweet 70's winner
Jackey Beavers - Hold On - Sound Stage 7 - £25 +P&P (Mint)
Jackey on stormin' form on this classic side
Joe Johnson - Can I change my mind - Syla - £50 +P&P (Mint)
Oh so soulful NOLA modern soul winner
Johnny Daye - I'll keep on loving you - Blue Star £45 +P&P (Mint)
Classic 60's 2 sided dancer
Don Gardner - My baby likes to boogaloo - Tru-Glo-Town £45 +P&P (VG+ missing B side label)
Rarer white label copy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hH2VNrYvCY
Dells - Run for cover - Cadet £50 +P&P (Stone Mint)
All time classice Chicago 60's dancer
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All Of My Life - The Ringleaders?
in Look At Your Box
To my knowledge, no one has ever released the tracks legally. The Leaner Brothers are now dead, the rights to the tracks sit with the family, I think one of the son's is trying to sort things out. Bob Abrahamian and others in Chicago have spoken to the group and the family and may know more.