1 hour ago, Chalky said:

Double Soul could be Detroit, owned by Sammy Kaplan and Jerry -O (Murry)  as far as I can ascertain, Jerry-O also involved with Boo-Ga-Loo.  Boo-Ga-Loo publishing and the label Boo-Ga-Loo is I believe Detroit in the main but also has links to Illinois with distribution and Chicago.  E-Rodney is a best known as a Chicago DJ.  Other acts across the labels are Chicago acts though.  I'd go with Chicago.

Thanks Chalky!
The "Right on-Right on" also had a release on Detroit Label Westbound, so no doubt connections. Record World wrote this in May 1970 when it was released on Westbound. Calling it a "new single", so first on Westbound, or just new on Westbound? 
It had (Sex Machine) in title on Westbound, maybe to sell more, or is it a different take?

22 minutes ago, Kenb said:

Karol is deffo Chicago-It's Clarence Johnsons label.

Thanks!

45 minutes ago, The Yank said:

I'm about 99% sure both labels are Chicago based ( or based in the nearby suburbs).

 

Thanks!

I have (for some unknown reason) these as Chicago labels, but I can't find any info on them at Robert Pruters book "Chicago Soul". Does anyone know where they are from? 

 

Thanks Djr! 

I found an earlier discussion about "private press" here: 

I like the explanation from Razadesoul: "A private pressing is not an indie label, exactly. Its a record pressed by the band/artist. Usually a a private press "record label" is generic and is 100% funded and released by the band/artist, and never bothers signing other acts. This is what makes private press different from an indie label press. An indie label signs multiple acts and strives to become a bigger label. A private press is just a band or artist that is not gonna wait around for a label and self fund their own music."

Late night question  😄  
I guess I wanted to know if you agreed on this division of soul releases under the major labels. 

Would you agree that before the major labels “bought up” the soul music in early/ mid 70s, one can roughly divide the soul music issued on 1) (both small and bigger) independent labels, 2) smaller “mom-and-pop” labels, and 3) “private” pressings done by artists themselves?

On 08/07/2020 at 14:27, Widnes63 said:

Tommy , the "house on the hill" is mentioned in Larry Williams - I am the one, as Robb said "a metaphor for where the rich live".

Ste.

Thanks for the tip Ste. that was a new Larry Williams tune for me!

13 hours ago, Robbk said:

"Society Hill" is an American metaphor for the place where the rich (high-falutin') people live.  That song is more likely to be about Pittsburgh than Philadelphia.  It's not about Chicago because that city is perfectly flat.  Not even a mole hill there.  In Chicago, the singer would be talking about "the billionaires on Lake Shore Drive".

Thanks Robbk, that's what I thought!

On 30/06/2020 at 05:30, ez said:

I live in philly, in my opinion he's probably not singing about philly. The society hill neighborhood has been around since we were a british colony but no steel mills or hills there. Alleghany river is in Pittsburgh which does/did have many steel mills. hope that helps

Thanks a lot Ez! So then you might agree that “society hill” is just a metaphor for the finer part of a town? And maybe he used "steel mill" cos it fits? 

27 minutes ago, Kenb said:

there was an area from 11th Street to Sharpsburg along the Allhegeny River that had lots of Steel Mills/plants, that mainly just faded away in the 60's. They called it Steel Mill Row. for the purposes of your book i would follow this line of enquiry.

[I only know because i did P.A. music research for a different project].

hope it helps

Thanks a lot Kenb, it answers my question! 
So even if the 45 is released on a Chicago label, the "story" is from Philadelphia

Hi soul sourcers

I’m writing a book where I use lyrics from soul 45s, and Tony Clarkes’ “Poor Boy”, on Chess records, is one of them. He’s using the word “society hill” and I was sure it was just an metaphor for the finer part of a town, but searching for it, I found out that it was (might be?) a famous neighborhood in Center City Philadelphia, PA. So, what do you think, is he singing about Philadelphia? Is there a “valley by an old steel mill” close to Center City?

I’d appreciate any help!

“You can look, but brother don’t you touch/ Go ahead and care, it can’t matter very much/ you’re just a poor boy, and she’s such a wealthy girl/ She’s got money, diamonds and pearls/ And all you got are dreams that may not come true/ You’re just a poor boy, a fellow ….?/ She stays way up on society hill/ You live in a valley by an old steel mill, and never will your lips kiss/ That’s one thought you may as well dismiss/ Cause you’re from a neighborhood where your kind considered no good, you’re just a poor boy”

On 29/03/2020 at 09:04, Salvosoul said:

I have one copy

You got a PM!

Still looking. Good trades or cash!

Charmels - As long as I've got you on Volt. Will pay good money for a at least Vg+ copy

Looking for a copy of The Relatives "Speak to me" 1971. Cash or good trades!

Does anyone know the release year of this? I'm between 1972 and 73, but would love to have the exact year. 

Hi
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm looking for a sound clip of Charles Brimmers "Man Has Landed On The Moon", the B-side of – "Black Is Beautiful" Does anyone own a copy and can make me a sound clip? I will pay for the effort!

Prices in £, ask for shipping costs

Caviar - Never stop loving you - Survivor M- 150
Ice - Hard times - TGNMC M- 35
Johnny Watson - It's better to cry - Valise M- (red vinyl) 45
K.L. Hamilton - I'm trying - Rip Pro M- 50
Living color - Plastic people - Sophisticated FunkVg+ (Couple of nail scratches, DNAP) 150
Maurice Jackson - Lucky fellow - Candle Lite Vg++ 80
Royal gospel singers - There's hope for this world - King M-25
The Stratoliners - What do you want with my love - Federal M-250
Tony Love - Crying time is over - Instant M- 20
True Movement - Depression - Mystic Insight M- 50

Great record, several for sale here (demo is vinyl BTW): https://www.discogs.com/Winfield-Parker-Starvin/master/744140

On 14/01/2019 at 20:59, IANCSLOFT said:

Wanted an ex copy of Bobby Bland..Im so Tired  Duke

Thanks

Ian Cunliffe 

Buy the pink demo Ian, different take than the orange issue!

Still looking!

I'll pay good money for a at least Vg+ copy of Dee Dee McArthur "Girl We're In Love"

The Stratoliners - What Do You Want With my love – Federal (WD) M- £200
Sage - I'm Alive – Head M- £150 SOLD

Kenny & Larry With The Hidden Persuaders - You And I Are Through – A Bem Sole – M- £150
The Harvey Averne Dozen – Never Learned To Dance – Ex- £1000

Anyone got a Vg+ (at least) copy of Dee Dee Mcarthur - Girl We're In Love (Universal sound)

Buddy Ace – Screaming please – Duke Ex £200 (not sure if this has the "bad" sound, ask for a clip)
Roscoe Thomas – American girl – World Ex £250 SOLD
Lucille Mathis – I’m not your regular woman – A-bet Ex (WOL) £200 SOLD
Cold blood – I’m a good woman – San Francisco Ex (WD) £110
Rex Garvin – You don’t need no help – WSJ Ex+/M- (original on vinyl) £150
Roy Roberts Experience – You move me – House of the fox M- (a small «Vinyl buble» at the start of run in groove DNAP) £200 SOLD