Denbo

That's very true Davie but I'm from the old school and sometimes forget that it's the norm these days to speed up or slow down to personal taste / better dance floor audience. See, I DO understand, just don't agree.

Yes, I know you do but not everybody does and it's on occasions like that when a person can get caught out. In those instances, not a problem if you have a turntable with pitch control, but if you don't and you track down a copy for your collection, then that's where the frustration can set in. IMO. And by the way, I'm not arguing with anybody here, I'm just being the devil's advocate. I hope that's clear?

Unless you are playing to an audience who happen also to collect records. Are you being fair to them?

I can honestly say I haven't. I can't, 'cos like I've already said, I don't have a turntable with that facility. But I wouldn't even if I did, as a matter of principle. And when I visit the States looking for records, I take a record player that has no pitch control neither. Neither do I even look for records where I could alter there affect by speeding up or down. It has to be the real deal or no deal at all.

Hi Kiddo, Nah, shoe-horn works for me. The only word I might want to change is "be" to "fit".

Don't forget the bit about the 'silk purse'.

Okay, Linda played me the track from the Lp at normal speed and then at +8 and whilst I agree, it improved the recording from our New Breed R&B 'dance scene' point of view, I wasn't THAT disappointed with the original speed to be honest. I think Linda is going to contribute to this thread and I agree with her opinions in advance, as we had a good and long discussion about it all and I liked her thoughts on the matter, especially the bits about the recording artists themselves and the 'silk purse'. You'll understand better after she's posted. In conclusion, it's not that I don't understand the reasons for speeding up or slowing down a record, it's just that I don't agree with it in principal, that's all. But good luck to all that think otherwise.

I'll do that but if I'm a luddite then why don't you go the whole hog and cut records to CD after totally remastering them. If you are not prepared to do that then couldn't somebody say that you too are a luddite? I'm all for keeping with the idea of using the technology that these records were intended to be used on, ie a turntable with speeds like 33rpm, 45rpm and 78rpm. I'll give Linda a call.

Yes, but you are then deceiving the punters who may go out and buy the record you played / pitched up or down, only to find when they get home it doesn't sound the way they remember it and might have no facility to 'correct' its speed. You have to remember, there are a lot of good / high quality turntables out there that don't have pitch control. Are these people now supposed to go out and purchase a turntable suitable to make their record sound the way they first heard it?

Hi Joe, I'm not one who opposes technical or technological change but one who prefers to hear a record at its correct speed. If I had a turntable with pitch control I still wouldn't use it. Just one of my pet hates and I have to say, you know I'm not alone. Perhaps slightly in the minority but not alone.

Yes you can Davie, we just need to be a little more discerning when making our choices instead of trying to shoe-horn a record that wasn't 'meant' to be.

Hi Kiddo, Just my opinion as a collector with a turntable that does not have pitch control. I think you can probably work out the rest for yourself.

Oh, God, NO!!!

Nice one Tone :o)

Any chance of a sound file of the following? Sonny Childe/Giving Up On Love-Decca Thanks in advance.

Well, let me know when you're ready to sell; frankie & johnny demo chapter five demo Denbo.

What's the sudden interest and sudden hike in price on this one???

Okay Davie, I might do that. Thanks. Nice blog by the way. Love them photos. I used to take some black and whites with coloured lens filters when out and about in the sticks whilst living up in Drumlithie way back in 1981 to 1985. Drumlithie is about 7 miles south of Stonehaven, which itself is about 25 miles south of Aberdeen, so I was living out in the sticks already. Only had to walk around the corner from my croft and it was lovely coutryside with a couple of crackin' 9 hole golf courses. Aahh, those were the days, when life was simpler. Hadn't returned to record collecting at that time which meant I had plenty of time for golf and fishing.

FRAME? God I hope not . . . it's MINT and should be played NOT displayed. Having said that, if I don't get my money back on it, I could play my 45 and display the 78. Terrible waste though.

Well . . . that could be you if you offer me the best price.

WOW, NICE ONE!!! Better condition than mine. This is a toughie and should be getting played on the R&B scene everywhere. Are you playing it to your audience in Hamburg?

Hi Davie, Like I said, I'm taking offers by PM. But remember, it's absolutely MINT. I've never seen or had a 78rpm record in such good condition in my life. Well, except perhaps for the UK Parlophone two 1-sided white Demos of Otis Williams and the Charms doing "Walkin After Midnight" and "I'm Waiting Just For You". I wonder if Tiny Topsy is in the Charms for this recording? I'll have to check on that. :o) Denbo.

Cheers, I'll look that one up. Awesome voice that Cissy Houston. Got her other release on Major Minor, which is pretty tasty too. :o)

Ha, JUST sent you a PM about the Pint thing. Yeah, sure, give me a fixed date and we'll meet up again. Denbo.

Popsike.