Soulman

There's obviously the Jimmy McFarland version that got released. Then came the Marvin Gaye version on the bunch of acetates that were found some years ago. Originally this was speeded up slightly when played (and thats how the first boot came out). A legit Motown remix was eventually released that was slightly slower. Following this, the original version was again booted at the proper speed following it's inclusion on the compilation CD "Marvin Gaye - The Master (I think???)

Steve

Yes I'm sure that's an excellent guide to the secondhand book market, thanks for the tip

OK so you didnt find it funny but at least it gives you a potential minimum value in the collectors market. Where do you find that on records other than 99p on a Music For Pleasure album. IM JOKING OK

Interesting stuff.

But I have two books which I'm sure really are quite rare, or at least hard to find; Soul Harmony Singles and the Simon Soussan Northern Soul Price Guide. No sign of either on Amazon. I'd wager that even yourself would have a job getting hold of those two? I've also got Skinhead Bible and Boss Sounds and I know for a fact that both of those sell for over £50 each.

Also - how do you actually establish how much a book is worth.

Look on the inside of the cover or buy a barcode scanner

THE FOLLOWING ARE IN AT LEAST EX CONDITION, SOME ARE MINT AND NOTED ACCORDINGLY:

BO & RUTH - YOURE GONNA GET NEXT TO ME - EMI - £10

AL DE LORY - RIGHT ON- CAPITOL DEMO - £10

DAVID RUFFIN - WALK AWAY FROM LOVE - TAMLA MOTOWN - £7

TRAMMPS - ZING WENT THE STRINGS - BUDDAH - £7

AQUARIAN DREAM - PHOENIX - BUDDAH DEMO - £10

LOU RAWLS - YOULL NEVER FIND ANOTHER LOVE - PIR - £ 5

COASTERS - COOL JERK - STATESIDE DEMO - OUT OF THAMES TV RECORD VAULT - M - £20 SOLD

KIM WESTON - 4 TRACK EP INC ANOTHER TRAIN COMING - TAMLA MOTOWN - £40 SOLD

LOWRELL - MELLOW MELLOW RIGHT ON - AVI - £5

GEORGE BENSON - ON BROADWAY WB - £7

FLAMA SHERMAN - WHERE IS HE - SNB (WITH CENTRE) - £30

BETTY WRIGHT - CLEAN UP WOMAN - ATLANTIC DEMO - OUT OF THAMES TV VAULT - M -£20

JOHNNY DAYE - I LOVE LOVE / STAY BABY STAY - STAX - £5

FRANKIE KNUCKLES - YOU CANT HIDE FROM YOURSELF - PORTRAIT - £5

MARV JOHNSON - DONT LEAVE ME - LONDON COMPANY SLEEVE - £10

BARBARA PENNINGTON - 24 HOURS A DAY - UA - £5

TEMPTATIONS - IM COMING HOME - MOTOWN - £5

DIANE DUCANE - BETTER LATE THAN NEVER - CONTACT - £25

THELMA HOUSTON - IF THIS WAS THE LAST SONG - ABC - £5

RARE PLEASURE - LET ME DOWN EASY - DJS DEMO PICTURE SLEEVE - £20 SOLD

SOUNDS OF LANCASHIRE - SLICED TOMATOES - PYE - £5 DID I REALLY BUY THIS ???

HELEN SHAPIRO - TELL ME WHAT HE SAID - COLUMBIA - £10

ELGINS - PUT YOURSELF IN MY PLACE - TAMLA MOTOWN DEMO SWOL - £20

ANITA HARRIS - THE PLAYGROUND - CBS - STUNNING BLUE EYED DANCER FROM THE BEST LEGS IN THE UK £10

ROGER COLLINS - YOU SEXY SUGAR PLUM - FANTASY - £10

FOUR TOPS - SIMPLE GAME - TAMLA MOTOWN DEMO - £207

TOMMY HUNT - GET OUT - SPARK - £5

MARVIN AND TAMMI - IT TAKES TWO - TAMLA MOTOWN - £5

SOUL BROTHERS SIX - THANKYOU BABY FOR LOVING ME - ATLANTIC - £10

SONNY BOY WILLIAMSON - HELP ME - PYE INTERNATIONAL - £10 ON HOLD

SONNY BOY WILLIAMSON - HELP ME - PYE INTERNATIONAL - NOC -£7

BROTHERS - ARE YOU READY FOR THIS - RCA DEMO - £30

LUTHER VANDROSS - DONT WANNA BE A FOOL - EPIC -£5 SOLD

DAVID RUFFIN - WALK AWAY FROM LOVE - TAMLA MOTOWN - DUPLICATE £7

MARTHA & VANDELLAS - GOTTA LET YOU GO - TAMLA MOTOWN - £5

BRAINSTORM - WAKE UP AND BE SOMEBODY - RCA - £5

CARLA THOMAS - ILL NEVER STOP LOVING YOU - KENT TOWN 117 - £30

TOBI LARK - CHALLENGE MY LOVE - KENT TOWN 116 - £30

BILL BRANDON/JOHN EDWARDS - TIN MAN / STREETS GOT MY LADY - KENT TOWN 115 - £30

DANNY MONDAY - BABY WITHOUT YOU - KENT TOWN 114 - £30

LOWRELL - MELLOW MELLOW RIGHT ON - AVI £5

POSTAGE £2.50 PER 45, 25P THEREAFTER. SECUED DELIVERY £2 ADDITIONAL

NEXT LIST INCLUDES SOLOMON BURKE BEAUTIFUL DAY, DENNIS DELL, CHAPTER FIVE ETC

HAPY HUNTING AND THANKS FOR LOOKING

BEST

STEVE

GOT SOME PHOTOS OF THE BOWL (BARN AND HOUSE) BUT THEY ARE ON THE OLD FORMAT CALLED "PHOTOGRAPHS". OH HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED. JUST LIKE VINYL IS NOW DOWNLOAD, MY PHOTOS ARE ... AS THE SAYING GOES LOFTED.

TAKE £5 OFF ANYTHING LISTED OVER A TENNER. BARGAINS!

Knew I was always better at the US 45's.... guess someone got a bargain with the Gloria Jones then huh!!!!

The following are all in at least Ex condition. Any marks / blemishes are noted accordingly:

ANYTHING OVER £10 NOW REDUCED BY £5 BARGAINS BARGAINS BARGAINS

VELVETONES - WHAT CAN THE MATTER BE - VERVE - £35

FOUR SHARPS - FIFE PIPER - CAMEO - £25

CARL CARLTON - DONT YOU NEED A BOY LIKE ME - LANDO - £40

ESKO AFFAIR - SALT & PEPPER - MERCURY - £25

JEANNE KING - YOU GOT A GOOD THING GOING - GENERAL AMERICAN - £35

LONETTE - VEIL OF MYSTERY - MS - £35

DANNY WHITE - MISS FINE MISS FINE - FRISCO - £65

BEACH GIRLS - SKIING IN THE SNOW - DYNOVOICE (VG+) - £65

TAYLOR TONES - POOR LITTLE GIRL - STARMAKER - £20

OUTSIDERS - TIME WONT LET ME - CAPITOL - £10

WILLIE HUTCH - LOVE GAMES - RCA DEMO - £25

JOANNE MOODY - WE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT - SYLVIA (LABEL MISSING ON B SIDE) - £20

PANDORAS - CALL ME - OLIVER DEMO - £25

COLETTE KELLY - CITY OF FOOLS - VOLT - £65

LOUISE CURRY - ILL TRY AGAIN TOMORROW - MS - £45

LORRAINE RUDOLPH - KEEP COMING BACK FOR MORE - JETSTREAM - £25 SOLD

EARTHQUAKE - I GET THE SWEETEST FEELING - A&M - £15

UNCREDITED ARTIST - CISSY STRUT - HECTORE RECORDS - £50

LARRY HOUSTON - LETS SPEND SOME TIME TOGETHER - HFMP (RED REMIX) - £15

LORNETTES - HIS WAY WITH THE GIRLS - GALLO DEMO - £50

MIRACLES - SAVE ME - TAMLA - £10

ASCOTS - MISS HEARTBREAKER - MBS - £25

APRIL SYLVA - UNDER MY THUMB 0 COMMONWEALTH (FELT PEN MARK ON LABEL) - £100

NANETTE WORKMAN - LADY MARMALADE VOC/INST - PACHA - £15

PJ - TLC - TAMLA - £10

SLY STONE - DANCE TO THE MUSIC - EPIC (79 MIX) - £10

MACEO & THE MACKS - CROSS THE TRACKS - PEOPLE - £50 (RARE FUNK)

OSCAR PERRY - TEASIN ME - RED SUN - £25

NF PORTER - KEEP ON KEEPING ON - LIZARD - £20

GLORIA JONES - FINDERS KEEPERS - STATESIDE UK DEMO - £20 SOLD

FOUR TOPS - LOVING YOU IS SWEETER THAN EVER - MOTOWN - £10

MIRACLES - I LIKE IT LIKE THAT - TAMLA - £10

BOB & MARCIA - YOUNG GIFTED AND BLACK - TAMLA DEMO - £10

SUPREMES - STONED LOVE - TAMLA MOTOWN UK DEMO - £15

Postage is £2.50 per 45 (25p each additional). Add £2.00 for signed delivery. Please feel free to PM or reply for more details.

Payment by Bank transfer, cheque or cash preferred.

Thanks for looking

Steve

List dropped throught he door one Thursday and had my usual quick scan through it. One record immediately got my attention however, it was obvious John or Marisa had made a typing error. I rang spot on 8:30am, the usual time John would plug the phone into the wall socket and, pretty much as always, I managed to get through first. Ring ring "Hello Soul Bowl"... Hi John... "Oh hiya Steve"... I think you've made a mistake on number 56 but I'll take it anyway. As he looked down the list there was the Empires on Candy Demo for a mere £5. I paid him the £50 which it should have been. Still a bargain and far cheaper than the £1300 I eventually sold it for a couple of years ago

I always liked spending money with John

Steve

Thank God Its Friday - Various - Columbia - VG -£5

Best Of Rose Royce - Rose Royce - Omni Ex - £5

Meanwhile Back At The Go go - Various -Kent Ex - £5

Spirit Of Philadelphia - Various - Expansion Sealed -£5

Music From The Soul (Richard Searling Comp) - Various - Expansion Ex -£5

Smart - Various - Kent - £5

Kissing & Crying For You - Various - Kent - Ex -£5

Leon Patillo - Skys the Limit - Myrhh - Ex - £20 Rare Uk Gospel / Soul

Jr Walker - Rainbow Funk - Soul - Sealed £30

Dusty Springfield - Everythings Coming Up Dusty - Philps -Ex - £10

Al Green - I Cant Stop - Blue Note - Sealed - £5

Walker Brothers - Make It Easy On Yourself - Contour - Ex - £10

Sister Sledge - Circle Of Love - Atco -Ex - £20

Postage £2.50 per album, 50p per additional.

Buy all for £80 plus handling at cost.

Lots more to follow

Thanks for looking

Steve

Hi Geoff,

Its a superb version taken from Lou's last CD. As far as I know it's still available from CD Baby but I can't for the life of me erember the title. I'm sure someone will come back with the right info.

Best

Steve

In fact just remembered its the album "Keep on Believing" which came out around 5 years ago I think.

Steve

If this has been covered before I apologise. When I was on holiday in Greece recently with friends playing music each night in their hotel bar, one guy played an alternative version of I'm Comin' Home In The Mornin' by Lou Pride, slightly slower than the normal version. Does anyone know if it's genuine, or has someone played around with the original? It's not easy to listen carefully enough when you're with other people but it was definitely slower and longer.

Also I heard a version of Pressure recently, supposedly a cover up credited to Harold Melvin. The backing sounded exactly the same as Drizabone, even the oohs and aahs seemed the same. Is this another one that's been fiddled about with?

Just idle curiosity on my part.

Sorry,

Didnt see the next bit. The "Pressure" mix was put out as a booty carver and is just Drizabone messed about with... unlike the Lou Pride which is genuine.

Steve

If this has been covered before I apologise. When I was on holiday in Greece recently with friends playing music each night in their hotel bar, one guy played an alternative version of I'm Comin' Home In The Mornin' by Lou Pride, slightly slower than the normal version. Does anyone know if it's genuine, or has someone played around with the original? It's not easy to listen carefully enough when you're with other people but it was definitely slower and longer.

Also I heard a version of Pressure recently, supposedly a cover up credited to Harold Melvin. The backing sounded exactly the same as Drizabone, even the oohs and aahs seemed the same. Is this another one that's been fiddled about with?

Just idle curiosity on my part.

Hi Geoff,

Its a superb version taken from Lou's last CD. As far as I know it's still available from CD Baby but I can't for the life of me erember the title. I'm sure someone will come back with the right info.

Best

Steve

Seeing as there was quite a bit of interest generated ragarding this 45, it's now up for sale. No offers, bids or whatever. Judging by the comments I feel this is a realistic price:

Chip Tyler - Because I Love You - Chicory Original Green Issue in really nice shape (see previous thread for photo). £400 including secured delivery UK only. Worldwide please enquire.

Bank transfer only please

Best

Steve

Actually, if I think about it, it's John Anderson (God bless hime) that made me poor.

Steve

I think he is Chip Taylor - a singer songwriter and brother of John Voight and uncle of Angelina Jolie (according to Wickipedia}

if its him he wrote lots of pop classics, Angel of the morning, Wild thing, Any way that you want me........also wrote 'Picture me gone' and "I can't wait to see my baby's face"

look at this discog of Chicory records - it has him listed as "Chip Taylor"

Cheers for that

Hard roe To How..Otis Lee when it was still c/uped

Found three copies under a stack of records that I had to mover to plug in the stereo, thought "shall I steal the fookers?" nah I gave all three toJohn expalining he could get a right result on these.

He played em and responded with a "what a pile of shyte, if I get rid of these at £20 you can have one for fook all" In the event I told him to list at £100"

He rang the following week, " I have a shit record for ya foc, where did you find this shit, I could have sold 100 of them"

PMSL

Hi Paul

That's John all over. I lost count the number of times he would say a record was shite... also the number of times he said he didn't like Northern. In the broadest Scottish accent he say "Ah dunno aboot this Northern thing. Ayd rather deal wi the Japs 'cause theyre inte the ballads. I've sold 'em loads of Northern only 'cause they've got a good flip... and this Northern thing aint gonna last".

Made him a few quid though.

Heres another little tale for you.

We went down to the local Mercedes garage and neither John or I were suitably dressed (he always wore jeans). When nobody came to talk to us he just turned and said "C'mon, let's f*ck off oota here". There were a few stares as we walked out the showroom. We went back to his house. A week later I called round and the first thing he said was "Fuc*in Mercedes... I showed em". He'd gone out to BMW and ordered a Black 635CSI with all the chrome removed. Stunning motor at the time. Automatic though (as were all Johns cars as he never passed his manual test).

A year later he was in Manchester (when he had Expansion Records) and bought a Maserati Bi-Turbo. About 12 months later he decided to go back to Mercedes. When the guy asked him if there was a trade in, John showed him the Maserati. The salesman couldn't find any info to to the deal and had to ring up the garage where John had bought it from. The salesman asked for a trade in value and the guy on the end of the phone said something around £20K (bearing in mind John had paid over double that). Merc salesman says "No, I think theres been a misunderstanding. The Maserati is only 11 months old and its very low mileage, to which the guy on the phone says "Yes they are all in good nick and low mileage coz there always in the f*cking garage being mjended". Must admit John did have a lot of bother with it. He laughed when I said to him "Jeez John, you could have kept for another 6 months by which time I could have paid you £10K". Think I had an XR3i at the time. I know John hated that car coz he couldnt stretch his legs in it. It was his fault for being tall and not my fault for being a normal 5' 8",

Steve Handbury

As a matter of interest does anyone know anything about Chip Tyler?

Living in Kings Lynn, i remember standing outside thge shop in Portland St in the mid 70's first thing Thursday mornings on list day, to get what i wanted before he got in and answered phone.

Must say he could often be a bit moody, n didn't look too pleased to see me there!.

John wasn't moody, he just needed a few cups of coffee and some fags to get going in a morning. He's one of the nicest guys you could ever wish to meet (Marisa too, his wife). It wasn't just the posters on the wall. What about the photo's of John and Popcorn Wylie (long before he had been to the UK) where John had the biggest afro you could imagine. The piles of records that sat on his mailing bench where the sun would beat down on them (how they never warped I'll never know). The gold discs hung up on the end of the racking (Mel & Tim, etc etc). The garage across the courtyard which was full to the ceiling with boxes of 45's and 12's. The house where eventually, the kitchen would become the office and the bedrooms upstairs were also full of 45's and the conservatory/porch area was in the end the mailing area and where the soul packs would be assembled.

I came away with many, many great records. John was kind enough to give me quite a few for nowt. I guess I must have been a good customer. Got a Daybreak, a Candi Staton, Emanons and loads of others just as a gift.

One of the strangest things I ever came away with was Toby, his cross eyed Siamese cat. I'd left my sunroof open and was setting off down Long Lane towards the main road when all of a sudden I saw Toby jump up onto the parcel shelf. Don't know who was more startled. Anyway, turned round and took him back. John loved that cat.

Happy days

Steve Handbury

Andy,

The ownership history was:

Tom DePerrio - Simon Soussan - John Manship - Gary Field - Richard Searling

Smudge,

I can't remember Gary Spencer having owned this although 20 years back Gary did get first choice from any purchases we made - he may have had it for a short while and sold it back to us - I honestly can't remember.

I do remember the load it came i though - over 60 10" Motown acetates which included all the legendary titles, even The Four Tops - Jazz Workshop album on acetate, that ended up going to a Japanese collector. We still have some 10" Acetates left from that original batch that we never got round to selling - I'll have to dig them out and have a look what's left over.

john

Remember that batch of acetates well. Andy didn't have a car at the time so I brought him over and we took them back to Boston to catalogue and record many of them. I don't think I've ever driven so slowly in my life !!!!!!!

Happy days.

Steve Handbury

Hi

I'm sure I still have the 12" so bear with me and I'll have a look. Don't need the 7" though as I believe I've still got a dozen or so copies stuffed away somewhere.

Steve

https://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item45f9cc03d4

See above.

Always thought this record to be difficult to find but it doesn't seem to be held in high regard so value doesn't equate to rarity IMO.

Pretty sure I had an issue too back in the 90's which I sold, but I kept the demo.

ROD

Thanks Rod,

Had Jerry's version numerous times over the years but always hung on to this as I thought it slightly better in some ways. I understand what you are saying in some respects but if the issue is so much rarer and hasn't been seen by many how can it be priced. Its a bit like a Charles Brandy issue I had. Nobody thought it existed and because of that the price went sky high (in excess of £4000).

Best

Steve

As a matter of interest, what's the bootleg look like ???.... oh and yes, I'm genuinely looking at selling this copy for those that asked

With regard to the topic in "wants" section.

According to feed back, it seems the green issue I have could be quite rare. Photos are attached (scanner not available at moment). This was bought from John Anderson at Soul Bowl in the late 70's. Check wants for full Delta details. I've always had it down as original. Dave Flynn says he's never seen one which had me wondering, hence the transfer to this section. Your thoughts are welcomed. Could this be another enigma from my box along the lines of the Charles Brandy issue on Blue Cat, the first issue stock of Frankie Karl....

Let me know

Steve

Heres the best photos I can get of the 45. In the run out is Delta number 62855 Listing number CH-401-B and stamped circle... no MRB, just circle. Label is dark olive green with light dish towards centre of lable. Bought from John Anderson late 70's. And your thoughts please Dave and folks??? Another enigma out of my box, just like the Charles Brandy Issue and the strange Frankie Karl stock first issue methinks.

Steve