Ian Dewhirst
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If you talk to Dave Rivers, he'll tell you that The Coasters "Crazy Baby" was his discovery....plus plenty more. A well respected member of the NS brotherhood for decades so its gotta be kosher
Cheers
Pete
That was a KILLER discovery by Dave! 100% Northern Soul in every way - one of the greatest IMO plus a great C/U title - "My Heart's Wide Open" - Freddie Jones. When you consider that the Coasters were essentially a novelty act it makes the discovery even better. I remember the shock when it was finally uncovered as the Coasters - I must have spent the following 3 weeks wading through crap Coasters records looking for it (but didn't find a real original for years).
Exactly the same thing with Paul Anka "I Can't Help Loving You" (covered as Johnny Caswell I think). How many gazillions of bloody Paul Anka U.S. RCA copies did I wade through looking for one of them and NEVER finding one!
Really weird. Both ex chart acts and big-name known acts with major record companies but both originals are rare to this day. How come? You would have thought there'd have been plenty out there..........
Ian D
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Who found "Skiing In The Snow" - The Invitations?
It was always incredibly rare - only around 2 (or maybe 3 copies) when it was huge and it never really turned up, so whoever found that first copy really found a beauty. I also heard a story about someone finding the 3rd copy which got destroyed in a car crash on the way to the Torch. Does anyone know this story?
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I seem to recall that some of his tunes sound very similar to some northern favourites, isn't Patti Brooks 'After dark' very similar to 'My dear heart'?
Best all,
RB
Yep, same song, different words, different song-writing credits(!). Similarly Arpeggio's "Love And Desire" otherwise known as "Stronger Than Her Love"...........
Ian D
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Hi All,
Apologies for posting up so late but we had a 'lil bit of surgery to do on the first 15 minutes.
Anyway all good now - another 2 hours of superior Soul Music from the last 4 decades. Have fun........download link after playlist.....
1st Hour
Frankie Knuckles feat Intense & Jazmina - Let The Rain Come Down - Bootleg 12" Mix
Sensory Productions Amsterdam - House Luck
First Choice - This Is The House (Where Love Died) - Tom Moulton Remix
Jean Carn - If You Wanna Go Back - Larry Sanders Re-Edit
L.T.D. - You Must Have Known I Needed Love
Rufus & Chaka Khan - Secret Friends
Charles Veal - New Found Love
Alfie Silas - You Put The 'L' In Love"
Luther Vandross - Give Me The Reason
Janette Renee - What's On Your Mind
N'Cole - I'm Gonna Need This Love
2nd Hour
The Spinners - It's A Shame
Don Downing - Lonely Days, Lonely Nights
Lee Garrett - You're My Everything
Thelma Houston - No One's Gonna Be A Fool Forever
The Three Pieces - I Need You Girl
Prophecy - Rain In My Life
Wendell Watts - The Grooviest Thing This Side Of Heaven
Sharon Ridley - When Did You Learn To Make Love
Soulpersona feat Marvin Gaye - Ain't That Peculiar
Aretha Franklin - One Step Ahead - Featurecast Re-Edit
Jermaine Jackson - You Like Me Don't You
Brief Encounter - Human
Robert Upchurch - The Devil Made Me Do It
Dee Dee Sharp Gamble - Just As Long As I Know You're Mine
Lou Rawls - You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine
https://www.sixmillio...6-Starpoint.m3u
Al will be hosting this Sunday, I'll be back on the 20th and then the two of us on a blow-out special on the 27th!
Happy Christmas All!
Ian D
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Question from me for IAN DEWHIRST.One of my fave late casino spins was WILBUR WALTON--24 HOURS OF LONELINESS.I once heard that IAN discovered this in a Sheffield junk shop circa 1978, is this true?
Correctomundo. I'd kinda dropped off the Northern scene at that point but I was promoting the Saturday Northern night @ the Central in Leeds and Pat Brady and Swish were the deejays at that point. For some reason I had to go to Sheffield one day and Pat came along with me for the ride and he spent the entire journey moaning that 'the Northern scene wasn't like it used to be' and 'you couldn't just find records easily anymore' etc, etc. I was in an optimistic mood and saying to Pat that records were everywhere and he just had to be a bit more optimistic and do some frigging digging! We were heading out of Sheffield back to the M1 and I remember saying to him that there were Northern records right under his nose and, as a joke, I said:-
'Hang on. Can you smell that"?
He said. "Smell what"?
I said. "Vinyl mate. I can smell vinyl!" and at that exact point I spotted a junk shop and pulled up and parked saying, "C'mon let's have a look. Records are everywhere" etc, etc.
We went and there were racks and racks of records and the first one I pulled out was Wilbur Walton Jr "24 Hours Of Loneliness" on 123, went to the counter, paid the guy 25p for it and gave it to Pat and said "There ya go. There's records everywhere".
He said, "How do you know it's Northern"?
I said, "Look at the title. How can it not be"?
We didn't even play it till we got back to Leeds. Pat was astounded.
100% good timing and the luck of the devil LOL.....
Ian D
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From Kev.....
More importantly who discovered these.......
Esperanto- Grand Piano Company/ Theme from the Fantastic Plastic Machine- Harry Betts/ Stop- Bobby Diamond/ Keeps on Burning- Burning Bush/ Name It You Got It- Mickey Moonshine/ Nine Times Out of Ten- Muriel Day
Seeing as Ian D exposed me as 'The Flasher' please own up if you discovered the above!
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Nope not guilty Kev, but that doesn't mean I didn't come up with some clunkers myself. "Danse A La Music" - The French Fries springs to mind....
Ian D
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Some good old soul sounds
Lou Pride - I'm Comin Home in the Morning (I was at the Casino the first time John Vincent played it, but was he first?)
No, I'm claiming that. Bought from Bob from Louth on a Thursday evening gig in Lincolnshire before anyone else found it (I think Bob got it from John Anderson anyway). Heard it over the cans first, knew it was a monster, then played it over the system and realised it was utterly irresistible so did a deal with him there and then (£8 rings a bell). I think I covered it up because I thought the title was ridiculous, so I over-stickered the first copy with "I'm Coming Home" as opposed to "I'm Com'un Home In The Morn'un" which was a bit of a mouthful and frankly daft pronounciation (I think I knocked £2.50 off the price because of the title)..........
Incidentally, that was the gig where I was driving back in the early hours of the morning over the fields of Lincolnshire with a guy called Kelly from Huddersfield and I came off the road straight into a wet muddy field and couldn't get the car out the field 'cos the wheels wouldn't grip the mud. So the two of us were stuck there covered in mud @ 2.00am in the middle of nowhere when some guy appeared out of the blue and between the three of us we got the car back on the road. I often wondered what the guy was doing in the middle of nowhere @ 2.00am on a Friday morning 'cos there were no towns, houses or pubs anywhere within a 10 mile radius. Just cows and mud. We ended up dropping him off 10 miles down the road but it was mud city all the way home......we were covered!
Worth it for Lou Pride though. A monster!
Ian D
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Was it not you Ian that found the Servicemen i need a helping hand on patheway ?? I still have your original copy with the labels on the wrong sides and your handwritten stickers over the top. Sold by you before you went to the states. Fantastic sound, ought to get a lot more play's me thinks. Tony, OZ. K.T.F.
I wish. The arguement for the Servicemen probably boils down to Pep/Colin/Sam or some combination thereof LOL....
Sorry about the stickers by the way! I can't even remember having the Servicemen but I LOVE that yellow Patheway design.......
Ian D
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Dead right Pete. Bob Slater and Jack Wardle - swapped the EP for cash and a pile of emi discs.
Interesting Ian mentions 'Send Him Back' - Jack still insists he played it to Ian - who declined it then later turned up with a copy
Mike
Nope definitely not from Jack. I'd never heard the Pointer Sisters before Brad played it to me and even then I was unsure about it because the rhythm was weird compared to what else was happening at the time. Also I didn't think it could be that rare being on Atlantic and all. It was the Wardell Quezergue connection that made me eventually make that very, very difficult £2.50 decision LOL......
Also, it has to be said that I was never particularly over-keen on the record - too screechy for me by far but it just sort of took off from the first play......
Also another thing to remember is that there were a LOT of unplayed great records in collectors boxes at the time and that's where an awful lot of stuff came from. For instance I had a copy of Tobi Legend in '73 long before it took off @ Wigan. I can remember Snowy from Doncaster having the Steinways in his box for years before anyone knew it, the Kegsy Dean Parrish story is legend and my Carstairs came straight out of a collectors box! That was the beauty of the scene 'cos you just never knew what would turn up suddenly at any time.......
Ian D
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Who played Eddie Parker I'm Gone and Ronnie Forte's Nervous Breakdown/Whisky Talkin'
I'm pretty sure that John Manship was first with Ronnie Forte - I think he got it from Disco Bob in 'Frisco 'cos he brought it to Cleethorpes first. Also, some of the rarer Detroit stuff tended to be in Detroit collections rather than DJ's hands at the time. "I'm Gone" was known about but I don't think I ever actually saw a copy back then - it was just hearsay that it was a killer. Much like "Spellbound" - Tamiko Jones. Everyone kept mentioning that there was meant to be a great Tamiko Jones on Golden World but no ever saw one until Anderson unearthed a load.........
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Just a little info from me, to add to this thread, global used to ship box loads( 100 count boxes ) to john anderson, god knows what he found in there, after quantities of vonettes, had been discovered, last few reasonable titles left to surface, magnetics- I have a girl, george kirby- what can I do, harry starr- another time, another place, bobby 'guitar' woods- mighty nice to know. As regards bernie binnick, there were connections, to swan via global, and together with john lamont and ed balbier, were part of the philadelphia record dealings.
I think Richard used to work @ Global didn't he? I'm pretty sure that's where he picked up most of his early goodies - I think he flew out to Bernie Binnick's place a couple of times (was that where he got the Volcanoes?). "Mr Big Shot" also came out of Global but I think Rick ????? found that (forgot his surname).
Didn't Bobby 'Guitar' Woods come from Black Grape originally? I'm sure that was buried away on Gary's shelves for ages 'cos it looked like a blues record...........mind you anything was possible back then. Records were everywhere up North.........
Ian D
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L.C. was found in Orlando, Fla 1976 in the front room of pot-smoking kitten thrower; i believe the full story is featured in Neil Rushton's new book.
LOL, 'pot-smoking kitten thrower' is a classic! Another was that 'Charles Manson lookalike freak' from L.A.!
How come the nutcases had all the good tunes?
Ian D
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Steve 'Brad' Bradley and Barrie Waddington are my choices.. ..
Brad came up with some beauties! He had direct contacts with a lot of people in the states in the early 70's which was unusual at the time. The source of the first copy of "Send Him Back" among many others (£2.50 if I remember rightly on a Tuesday night @ Burnely Cricket Club)!
Ian D
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Did this ever actually get issued on Columbia in the 60's? It's on a package called "Super Baby Cakes" - Jimmy Radcliffe & Friends on a recent CD and the sleeve notes don't make it clear whether it was ever actually issued or not. Great mid-tempo pounder which will sound great loud..........
Ian D
It was a long time ago.
Who Discovered What ?
in All About the SOUL
Even nuttier is that when I met George again in the early 90's he didn't even have a copy himself (I'd already met him when Parliament were recording "Flashlight" in L.A. in the mid 70's before Tamala Lewis was discovered). I ended up giving him my copy along with white promos of Shirley J. Scott and Roy Handy when he came over to the UK in the early 90's......an all-round great guy and a huge influence so it somehow felt right that the records went full circle.............
Ian D