Ian Dewhirst
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Eddie,
I have never found out who P.B. is or was. Simon Soussan used him for his counterfeits...maybe Ian Dewhirst will know, he was around L.A. in that period.
I dunno either. Simon kept his modus operandi very close to his chest. I just know he'd be down @ Monarch every other week picking up his 'legal reissues'. I think PB was either a 'front' company or possibly even the guy who mastered the records..........?
Ian D
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As regards the Kenny Smith on Goldspot they are all real. When I spoke to Kenny about this many years ago he confirmed that Simon purchased all of his remaining stock. Kenny owned the label
Regards
Andy
Cheers Andy. That wraps up the mystery of why Simon had 'em then. I think out of the three records I ordered from him at the time, the Prince George and Kenny Smith
were actually originals and the George Blackwell was a very convincing boot........
Ian D
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Interesting intro. Almost classical. I enjoyed listening to it, but I dunno if I'd prefer it to the original when on the dancefloor. I do actually like the 7" mix - which omits the first verse and is a tighter production in my view. (Possibly just 'cos that's the cut I heard first and which still holds such fond memories). He does a good job on it though.
But then I love this song any-which-way, and the MELODY is so memorable which always helps!
p.s. Has he done "Cathedrals"?
It is almost classical. I've played it out to great effect a few times. It's a good record to kick off a set with as the intro gets everyone anticipating what's going to happen and then.........bada BOOM! It kicks in and people go nuts. I also like the way it breaks down to just vocals later in the mix which, again, is a great tension builder. I love it!
I dunno about "Cathedrals" but I think it'd be very difficult to beat the original mix on that to be honest.......can you imagine how good that would have been with a decent Soul vocals and maybe a Gospel choir........?
Ian D
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Hey I missed it - was down in Somerset (Crayford is in Kent by the way Ian)....and knowing some of the obscurities Simon has stashed away, I bet i missed a blindingly good show.
Well you can catch the download now Steve! Both the guest and music was top notch but the host left a bit to be desired LOL.....
First time I've heard the majority of the selection as well proving that one's never too old to learn.
Give us a shout when yer ready to guest yourself. Simon schooled me on how to beat the download carvers so no worries there!
Ian D
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OK, today's show was touch and go right from the off LOL.....
We got to the studio with all of 3 minutes to spare and just made it in time. Then I had motor neuron problems trying to figure out a couple of minor technical issues (that's the awkward gap just before the EL record which was entirely my fault by the way) and then for some reason we only appeared to be coming out through one channel. Phew......
Anyway the good news is for the download link is that we had a good fiddle about (many thanks to Champy) and the show can now be heard via both channels finally praise be to the lord!.
Which is a good job because we have some absolutely top class tunes today which would otherwise unheard outside of Simon M's record room.
Top quality stuff folks, so kick back and enjoy........
Normal live service will be resumed next week I'm reliably informed......
Six Million Steps Presents The Original Mastercuts Show with Ian Dewhirst and special guest Simon M on Sunday 5th April 2009 on www.starpointradio.com.
To download the show simply hit the link below! Or for this and all archived shows please pay a visit to www.sixmillionsteps.com where you can download the last 4 weeks worth of all Six Million Steps produced shows. That's 16 hours of free music over the last 4 weeks plus loads of new fully downloadable KILLER mixes in a variety of styles!
So let's go with this week's show:-
1st Hour
Groove Junkies Presents Solomon Henderson - Inside My Soul
EL - Walk Away
Vincent Kwok feat D'Layna - Love Is The Answer
Leo Mendez - I Feel Love
Lanier and Co " I Don't Know What To Do
Walt Foster - Let's Take This Time Tonight
Otis Clay - All I Wanna Do
Truth - What Direction
DMX Affair - One Time To Make It Right
Epicenter - Get Off The Phone
2nd Hour
Lorraine Rudolph - Keep Coming Back For More
The Pretenders - Just Be Yourself
Joe Chapman - Beautiful Lover
The Joneses - Who Loves You
Buddy Ace - I'll Love You If You Let Me
La Voyage - Never Lookin' Back
Tony Gregory - You Lift Me From The Ground
Drizabone - Don't You Want Me
Oezlem - Eyes Burn
https://www.sixmillionsteps.com/6MS-...5-Starpoint.mp3
Many thanks to Simon for putting up with a none-stop barrage of issues and manfully coming through the test with flying colours. A Mothersticker of a show!
See y'all next week!
Best,
Ian D
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it would probably be computer technology that would make it stand out as a boot. you would probably have to replicate the materials and processes from the 60's to stand a chance of pulling it off. The vast majority of fakes in any collecting market get found out.
True. Plus you can't access the original raw vinyl material anymore. When the oil crisis kicked in during the mid 70's the raw vinyl manufacturers lessened their reliance on the petrolium components. These days I think there's just a couple of suppliers and they both use vinyl pellets.
Also the whole label processes have changed - the printing, the ink and the paper itself. I tried to replicate Cream's "Disraeli Gears" sleeve when I worked at Simply Vinyl and there wasn't a single company who could replicate day-glo colours LOL.....
Ian D
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Ian, just thinking stuff is "dodgy" isn't enough the deadwax and all the info requires documenting in detail. Otherwise you can get ridiculous coments like all vinyl copies of Willie Hutch on Dunhill are bootlegs etc etc. I will document every Kenny Smith on Goldspot that comes my way, but I think they'll all be originals.
For years for obvious reasons we all think if Simon Soussan had quanity and sent them to England the were bootlegs, I myslef fell foul of that mindset by selling April Silvers - Under My Thumb for £8 from the reissue area until recently, now we know they were all original he sent over.. we know sell it at £100.
Every day there's something to learn..
John
True, true mate. I always knew the April Silva's were originals even though they looked like boots 'cos I'd stumbled into it early on but the first time I ever saw a Kenny Smith on Goldspot was directly from Soussan so naturally I assumed the worst. Every copy I've ever seen up to that point was on GAR........
Also what me wonder was this was the period where Soussan seemed to be doing very limited presses of some items - the afformentioned Eddie Daniels, Lee Mitchell, George Blackwell etc, etc so I can be forgiven LOL. Was it the only release on the label though?
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That is a gret remix! It's on a great cd I have of him at the playboy mansion. The whole cd is amazing.
Check out "Return To The Playboy Mansion" as well Andy. His "Sexytime" mix of slowies is the best running mix of slowies I've ever heard - truly stunning plus he includes things like "For Real" - Flowers etc, etc. He knows his stuff too and he's actively collecting a lot of early Modern these days. He's got an amazing collection and all originals too. There's a real Soulboy under that smooth French exterior LOL.....
Ian D
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Mmmm. Interesting. Are there any other releases on Goldspot then or was Kenny Smith a one-off? I'm pretty sure they didn't emerge until Soussan was doing his limited boots.When he was trying to counterfeit originals and pass them off he told me that he used to put them into a washing machine wrapped in a sheet and put bits of wood and coins in to try and replicate the wear and tear.......
But the Goldspot thing has got me wondering now. I know Soussan was in touch with Kenny, so is it possible that he got the different mix from Kenny Smith and booted it on another label so that Kenny wouldn't have any problems with the GAR people......?
This would have been exactly the same time as the Lee Mitchell's emerged......
Ian D
So, I'll answer my own question........
"However, there's a good chance you would not be holding this CD right now if it weren't for one song in particular: "Lord, What's Happening To Your People?".
Issued in 1971 as the first and only release on Kenny's own Goldspot label, (originally titled "Lord, What's Happened?"), the record was written to cash in on a particular trend that Kenny describes as the "Jesus-rock era." "It was just a market or a trend that was going on at the time, so I thought it would fit," Kenny explains. Some label owners from Chicago thought that it would fit as well. They picked up "Lord..." to re-release on their General American Records imprint.
However, General American had bigger things in mind for Kenny than the Billboard charts. They made him the Publishing Director of the company and the host of their new television show: Soul Street. Soul Street, for which Kenny also wrote the opening and closing themes, was broadcast in 36 markets around the country and featured a range of guests from local artist Tommy Wills, to more well known acts such as Lynn Collins, the Ohio Players, Little Royal, the Detroit Emeralds, Gladys Knight and James Brown. Soul Street ran for ten episodes, the first nine of which were hosted by Kenny. Behind the scenes, things were falling apart for GAR. A new host was brought in for the tenth episode, and that was it as the studio pulled the plug on the show due to unpaid bills.
Kenny was out of his element in the television studio. By the early seventies Kenny was a seasoned performer and a regular on the regional club scene. Used to the gritty and aggressive atmosphere of the nightclub, the cold, sterile television set was an environment with which Kenny was unfamiliar. Besides being a fish out of water, Kenny was face to face with people who he previously considered to be his idols. ""I got intimidated a little bit, by these people ...I used to worship 'em. James Brown, you know, I did all his stuff, danced like him, everything else. And all of a sudden, here I am in control of this guy, askin' him questions."
However, "Lord, What's Happened" would provide Kenny with recognition yet again in a strange and unexpected way. The song failed to ride the gospel-rock wave that Kenny had tried to latch onto in the U.S., but it got a second shot at success across the Atlantic in the dance clubs of Northern England.
A couple of years after its release in the States, the British Northern Soul scene discovered the record and it became an anthem at the legendary Blackpool Mecca. Demand for the single from British dj's and collectors was high enough that in 1976 that Kenny was tracked down by the infamous French rare soul dealer and producer Simon Soussan. The original contract between Kenny and Soussan's Soul Galore Disco-Sound Productions details how Smith was paid $300 in advance for the right to reissue "Lord What's Happened" for the Northern Soul market and a promise of royalties to come for any copies pressed up and sold. Look more closely, however, and one notices that it is doubtful that any "commercial" copies were ever pressed up, because Soussan had 1000 to 1500 "promotional" copies made beforehand, after which there'd be no need for any commercial copies".
https://www.shakeitrecords.com/cincinnatiso...mith/index.html
But I still think some of those Goldspot ones are dodgy........
Ian D
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Mmmm. Interesting. Are there any other releases on Goldspot then or was Kenny Smith a one-off? I'm pretty sure they didn't emerge until Soussan was doing his limited boots.
When he was trying to counterfeit originals and pass them off he told me that he used to put them into a washing machine wrapped in a sheet and put bits of wood and coins in to try and replicate the wear and tear.......
But the Goldspot thing has got me wondering now. I know Soussan was in touch with Kenny, so is it possible that he got the different mix from Kenny Smith and booted it on another label so that Kenny wouldn't have any problems with the GAR people......?
This would have been exactly the same time as the Lee Mitchell's emerged......
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I'm sure Goldspot is a legit first issue. Different take as well.
Have there ever been any other records on Goldspot then? I remember ordering Kenny Smith, George Blackwell and Prince George from Soussan and being bitterly disappointed when Kenny Smith arrived on Goldspot, George Blackwell was a convincing re-press and only Prince George appeared to be real.........
I thought Soussan did the Goldspot version as he was actually in touch with Kenny Smith 'cos I was there when he spoke to him a couple of times a few months later.....
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And two went on to become Cheech and Chong.... unless I'm mistaken. x
Actually I think Tommy Chong was one of the Vancouvers and Cheech Marin came along later. Either way, I guess you could say political correctness wasn't at the forefront of either Four Niggers & A Chink or Cheech & Chong.......
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I imagine some uber rich rock star with a loathing for Motown buying it, then proceeding to destroy it with a Water Song (Kung Fu) Sword By Paul Chen , you know the type from Wushu practitioners for swords the ones with ultra-flexible blades. With a spring steel blade, tapering to almost paper thin at the tip, it is very light (barely one pound), extremely fast and surprisingly loud in skilled hands................. All just to prove a point.........
Wow! F*ck the record, just gimme the sword!
Ian D
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I can relate to all this, having just dropped a new remix myself:
Is that the kind of thing you meant, Dave?
I also did a second mix with an even harder edge, which should go down well at Wigan Pier:
if anyone wants a carver for next weekend just PM me. might also make a nice addition to the next raresoulman auction too?
Both a l'il bit manic for me George LOL although I'm sure they'd work OK at the Frontier in Batley where the kids seem to love the million-mile an hour ravey stuff.......
Ian D
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Yes folks,
He may have been something of a recluse just lately.....
........and he may have a vocabulary which is limited to just 2 words, namely 'Soul' and 'Bowl'......
........and he may have issues of a highly embarassing personal nature......
........but Simon M does have an immense amount of knowledge and a record collection to die for!
So come join us this Sunday afternoon on the ORIGINAL MASTERCUTS Show between 2.00-4.00pm on www.starpointradio.com and you'll be hearing some astoundingly good music and some in-depth nattering to find out exactly how Simon M ticks.
Hopefully we'll get behind the mind of how this highly complex character thinks and what motivates and moves him besides Soul Bowl.
Can't wait LOL!
See ya Sunday @ 2.00pm sharp!
Ian D
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Edited by Ian Dewhirst
As if to prove the point, quite simply this is the greatest remix I've ever heard in my life. An absolute work of art which totally vaidates what can be done when someone puts their heart and soul into it and totally understands the record........
"Down To Love Town" - The Originals Dimitri From Paris Disco Citay Remix
https://www.zshare.net/audio/574790283d411ba8/
Ian D
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My wife called me down from my office this morning @ 8 saying "hey Mark, John Manship's on the radio" - now, my wife has no idea who John actually is, all she knows about him is that she sometimes sees his name on emails in my inbox...John was on 6Music this morning talking about the FW auction - anybody else hear it? 'rarest record in the world' and 'most valuable record in the world' were both being bandied about...
Must be pretty big news if the Beeb are covering it? I wonder if Trevor McDoughnut will mention it as "the last item" on News At Ten on the day the auction ends...? "And finally, over to Melton Mowbray for a look into the strange world of Northern Soul record collecting..."
That's the general plan Mark.......
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Don't think there are ANY DJ's at all on the Northern scene & very very few either on the Modern scene.
Just collectors who are passionate about playing the music they love to a wider audience.
Well, if you put it like that what's the point of the thread then LOL?
Good point though Cunnie. Is there any Northern or Modern 'DJ' who started off as a DJ and then started collecting......? The only one I can think of is John Vincent.....
Ian D
The Third Degree - Mercy
in All About the SOUL
I agree Tony. I only heard it for the first time last night. A great f*ckin' rekid which sounds like it owes it's brass arrangement to Gene Chandler's "There Was A Time". Anyone know who the vocalist is?
I think it's a perfect Acid Jazz release. Typical of 'em to do a 60's cover of a 00's record LOL......
Ian D