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    I know that Steve, that is what I put in my post earlier on. 'Having a huge collection of big ticket items doesn't guarantee that you will have the ability to be a top DJ'.

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    Also I know as well as many DJs that the fun is in the chase and when you find that

    record either in some junk shop or someones record box, there is no other feeling like it, it's a buzz!

    I remember going into 'Geroles' record shop in a suburb of Leeds and finding 6 copies of 'The Shakers - One wonderful moment' for 50p each. I took them to the Torch the same night and sold them for £30 each, THAT was a lot of money in the early 70s. OK the record is a piece of shite, but then it was a massive want for lots of top jocks and collectors. Can you imagine what it felt like for me on a wage of £30 a week to suddenly have a months wages in my hand?

    But we all know it's not all about money either, If you find a tune you've been after for years it's a religious experience.

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    Edited by steveLuigi

    All Ian is saying is that 'AT THAT TIME' many of the records in his list were rare and expensive and many on the list still are if you were to try to buy originals. Same as today there are some records that are more rare and expensive than others.

    And why wouldn't anyone want to amass that collection again? There are some brilliant oldies events going on that many oldies DJs would give their right arm to play at.

    It's not ALL about rare and underplayed records or new discoveries, there is still a MASSIVE following for the old stuff.

    I have spoken to many people that have just come on to the scene or have not been on the scene for long, that prefer the old stuff over the modern.

    At the end of the day, it's all what we like to call Northern Soul, and we are all into it for the same reason, because we love it otherwise we would have chosen another type of music to follow. Whether it be oldies, newies, Modern or Rare & underplayed it's all about the music.

    Is that so hard to understand?

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    Edited by steveLuigi

    Looking back at the points made in this thread I think the answer has to be

    Do You Have Enough Money To Be A Top Northern Soul Dj?

    No - if you were to start buying big ticket items now to amass a good enough collection to be a top Northern DJ unless you have just won the lotto and have thousands to spend on tunes.

    Yes - if you have been collecting for years and already have the tunes to barter with.

    But as already mentioned, having a huge collection of big ticket tunes doesn't mean that you have the ability to become a top northern DJ anyway but it will get your foot in the door if you flash your box :thumbup:. Whether it's the oldies or Rare& underplayed scene that you're into, the answers are the same IMHO!

    Exactly

    I am not a rich boy.

    I work hard and put in fooking hours and hours of overtime for my hobby.

    I spend all my spare time digging, chasing, listening to new things.

    I am always after unknowns and forgotton things.

    Thats what keeps collecting intresting.

    I can't think of a better feeling when you get a fantastic record for a good price.

    My taste is varied.

    And I only buy what I like for ME ! I am not collecting records for anyone else !

    You are right, there nothing like the buzz of finding a new tune that's a belter, or an old tune at a good price.

    A few oldies I have found at good prices are 'Apollas - Mr Creator - USA Warner Bros Demo - £25, Solomon King - This beautiful day - UK Parlaphone Demo - £50 and Pookie Hudson - This gets to me - USA 'Jamie' Gold and white - £19 (sold on for £112 eventually)

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    Edited by steveLuigi

    Just a few thoughts from someone from the States who went from 0 to 4000 soul 45s in 3 years....

    I'm still pretty new to the soul scene. It's been only about 4 years for me.

    I buy and sell records online and have grabbed bits that have interested me that were in top-whack condition, or am keeping a rarer record in the hopes I'll find a better copy.

    Right when I first started collecting, I realized that I just don't have the dosh for the big-ticket 45s. I've found tons of records that hit the spot for me that are mostly under $50.

    I could never justify keeping some of the rare soul 45s that have passed through my hands. I've had the Second Resurrection 45 in my hands but decided I couldn't keep it.

    I've been buying up originals, trading when I can, and it really comes down to being in the right place at the right time. I went to a record fair in May and found a chap that had added 4-5 150-count 45 boxes of new old stock. There was nothing incredibly rare there, but lots of records people would love to hear played out or that I enjoy.

    I've found that, as others have echoed here, that some of the best records I've heard are the most common, but they hit the spot.

    Cheers,

    Tim

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    Edited by steveLuigi

    A good DJ will keep an eye on the dancefloor and see what they are dancing to, while at the same time working out what would follow the record that is on best to keep the floor as busy as possible.

    A lot of DJs don't even bother looking at the dancefloor at all, but have their heads buried in their record boxes or trying to work out which slider on the mixer to use to put the volume up for the next record.

    PSR (pre set routines) are a bad idea IMO, as if you have only taken the records with you for the set you have planned, what happens if the set doesn't work and you have nothing to fall back on? Disaster! Play to the crowd is what every good DJ should do.

    If you are being paid as a DJ, you are being paid as an entertainer, and should do your utmost to entertain the people that have paid to come to the event. You can play the tunes that no one knows at home to yourself unless you are 100% sure that if you play an unknown, it will definitely work, I am all in favour of educating a crowd also so the odd unknown is good, but make sure it is sandwiched between 2 known tracks so if the unknown doesn't work, the floor will only be quiet for a matter of minutes. All common sense really!

    A TRUE SOUL LEGEND!

    Lorraine, I don't think you could ever imagine the pleasure that you have given the Soulies in the UK over the years. Your records are still cherished and played at many Soul events around the country.

    For this I would like to thank you from everyone in the UK that appreciates Soulful music from a stunningly soulful singer.

    Thank you!

    Steve

    Nope. I hated the bloody record but carried it in my box just in case I did a gig in Humberside or Lincolnshire. :thumbsup:

    Credit where credit's due. I seem to remember Raw Soul breaking via Rick Scott, Chris Dalton and Poke - the Cleethorpes axis.

    I think most of us got the record at the same time via Soul Bowl but the local Cleethorpes guys pummelled it into popular conciousness until it became a Pier anthem. Definitely an East Coast tune that's for sure........

    Hope you're well Steve. I hear the Central reunion was a killer. I'll be up for the next one for sure unless I get sidelined by the realities of life........

    Ian D :D

    Thanks for that Ian, for some weird reason I had it in my head that it was your baby. Yeah def for the next Central mate, don't get sidelined please, everyone thinks your doing it :-)

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    Now here's a guy who has his priorities bang on!

    Nice one Bearsy.

    Off the top of my head I can't think of many Northern collectors who are prepared to peddle their arse for new records, so hats off to you! If everyone else showed your level of commitment we'd be in a whole different scenario mate.

    Listen, whilst you're down at the docks you could try knocking out some of those Canadian Lime and Dennis LePage 12"ers to the same audience. Y'know, kill two birds with one stone............:)

    Ian D :D

    Ian, Hi! Sorry, a bit off topic here, but was it you that broke 'Raw Soul' at Cleethorpes?? and if not who did and where?

    Steve

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    Edited by steveLuigi

    I know this version isn't the best, but just got this through the post purchased for £2 + £1.50 p&p.

    Nice label, anyone seen anything on this before? Australian Decca

    Also just noticed that on the original 'Decca' sleeve that came with the record there is an address of the record store that I imagine the record spent some of it's time.

    The address and record store are;

    Rhythm Rendezvous

    Hunters Corner, Papatoetoe, PH: POP 87-698

    And Broadway, Newmarket, PH 544-738

    Anyone any idea where that is??

    dave.jpg

    Just used Google maps to find out where 'Papatoetoe' is and it's in New Zealand

    Great taste, contacts, knowledge, doggedness, intelligence and an unshakeable faith in your own ear.

    Those are all far more important than mere money.

    We've all seen people with money show up and try to use it to get to the inner sanctum (such as it is these days). It never works for long.

    You simply cannot instantly amass a great collection from scratch these days even with relatively unlimited funds.

    Even great records in themselves mean nothing without innate deejaying ability. Not everyone has it. It can develop over time but in many ways the ability to play the right records in the right order in an entertaining and refreshing way is probably something you're born with. It's a different thing from merely being a 'showman' or a comedian with the mike.

    Hear Hear!!

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    Edited by steveLuigi

    I know this version isn't the best, but just got this through the post purchased for £2 + £1.50 p&p.

    Nice label, anyone seen anything on this before? Australian Decca

    Also just noticed that on the original 'Decca' sleeve that came with the record there is an address of the record store that I imagine the record spent some of it's time.

    The address and record store are;

    Rhythm Rendezvous

    Hunters Corner, Papatoetoe, PH: POP 87-698

    And Broadway, Newmarket, PH 544-738

    Anyone any idea where that is??

    dave.jpg

    Just sat here thinking to my self why the hell do I continually get myself mixed up in these debates on SS. It doesnt effect me personally because these kind of events wouldnt be where I would personally choose to go, nor are my soul mates involved or particularly interested in the topic in more, it isnt really discussed at all - its just a given.

    Boots, carvers & EMI Discs have always been played on the scene to some extent & for the vast majority of this time I spose I was blissfully unaware of the fact. But there does seem to be another dimension to all of this these days. Years ago it was accepted that at youth club do's & your little local events bootlegs would be played alongside everything else & no one cared, least of all me. the events & DJ's however were not trying to be anything that they wernt.....everyone wants to be a DJ or promoter now & will almost go to any lengths to achieve this, so to me the playing of bootlegs at these kind of events is not acceptable, as most are passing themselves off as mainstream events where IMO on the whole originals should be played.

    I'm tired of discussing it, cos to me its obvious & as I said earlier a given, which almost doesnt need to be debated, up until releatively recently because we all knew it was wrong........apparently the goal posts have changed & because I point this obvious fact out I'm demonised & branded a soul snob.

    My modest collection has taken years & years to amass, I have saved, lied (to the wife), visited the US, nurtured friendships with dealers & record savvy friends, dug long, deep & hard, wheeled, dealed & scoured the earth for soul records & the hours & money I have spent are incalcuble. Occasionally I am lucky enough to share these records through DJing...........& apparently all i needed to do was say sorry its too difficult for one reason or another to play originals, but heres a boot that I could have secured in seconds on any given day of the week forever.

    Thats why I continue to get involved in these debates. Now it would really make my day, if some one came on here & said OMG I understand now, dont think I'll do that any more, but it aint gonna happen is it.

    Russ

    Russ I already have expressed my understanding of the points you make in an earlier post, as i said then there will always be an argument for and against boots etc. It's the nature of the scene, and if it wasn't for these arguments, people wouldn't know or understand the points made.

    I appreciate the fact that you have put countless time and money into your collection, and as far as I'm concerned you and other collectors of your ilk should be appreciated, as if it wasn't for them and yourself buying and playing these originals out and making them popular, there wouldn't be a market for the bootleggers.

    This is my way of saying that I can see both sides of the argument, we all love and live the same music, and that is what the scene has been built on over the years.

    Respect

    Steve

    cockney steve once bought a round of drinks

    Heheh!! NOW THAT IS A MYTH!! guaranteed that every time I see him he'll cadge a cig, and phone me before one of my events to get in for free, and to top that he uses Terry Deans phone to ring me LOL :thumbup:

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