Northern Soul Uk
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I hope your Javells is original.This is off topic, but, I can't ignore it. If DJ's can only play "originals" then many venues should close right now! (and should have closed years ago). Yes the original vinyl is the ideal word, but they are limited in supply. How many DJ''s own originals of Gwen Owens, Don Gardner, The Parliaments, Eddie Parker, The Salvadors, and, dare I mention, Frank Wilson!
And how many would play them?
Does a legal re-issue meet the criteria of an "original"?
Now I am dropping the needle on my Javells again.....
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by all means buy as many boots as you want, but dont run around claiming to be a dj if you dont have the originals, you're just like winstanley another old has been trying to cash in on former glories, now jog off back to the rave scene
MMM? So you can't be a DJ if you don't have original records then?? Didn't know that! Sorry for my ignorance, but I thought DJing was all about being able to hold a crowd on the dance floor and try to make them enjoy a night in order to get them to return? My aplogies, but that being my theory for the last last 38 years of being a successful DJ has been wrong all along, Damn I'll have to re-think now!
As for the Rave scene, it was soooo close to the Northern scene in it's heyday than you will ever know if you weren't there, Kids travelling hundreds of miles to hear the tunes, taking gear and chatting all night and all with the love of the music, and some of them including myself paying hefty sums of money to have and play the records, sound familiar? The only thing that was different was the music. And the ironic thing is is that a lot of the tunes that i used to sell in my shops and play, are getting played on the modern Northern scene now i.e the deep Chicago House stuff etc. And to be honest, taking a trip to music further afield served it's purpose and made me realise that there is only one type of music for me, and here's a clue, it's not Rave!
Peace out!
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Sometimes I cringe at the thought of putting alternative versions of classic Northern tunes on here, but I think this one is definitely worth a mention.
Another version of 'Picture me gone' by Dave Berry. I love the version by Evie Sands and there's another by Madeline Bell too, both great.
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I'm not having a go at the 'Soul Snobs' if there is such a thing, I was stating a fact about what happened to me on one occasion.
I was also made aware of the term by a girl who suffers from chronic arthritis, who went to a venue and tried her best to dance, she noticed a crowd looking at her and laughing at the way she was dancing and described them as Soul Snobs, when they started dancing they were worse than her, so the term apparently goes further than record collectors.
What I'm saying is that there shouldn't be a devide between original collectors, and those that still love music and love playing it, but due to other commitments, can't afford originals.
I was one of the original Northern Soulies back in the late 60s early 70s going to the Torch and the Casino etc. I had all original records then because I had a disposable income, but things and situations change, but it doesn't mean that I love the music any less because all of my records aren't original now although I do have a lot of originals, but the ones I can't afford I will gladly buy a boot or a re-press just to own it and play it.
I suppose that there is bound to be such a divide though, as the folk that spend hundreds and sometimes thousands on a record, feel cheated when a record gets booted or re-pressed and anyone and his dog can then own it, so I do understand the argument.
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When I came back on the scene some 10 years ago the term 'Soul Snob' was new to me. When I left the scene there was no such term. When asking what the term actually meant I was told that it referred to people who for instance, won't dance to a record unless it is on the original label, or look down on collectors because they have bootlegs or re-presses in their collection.
I know everyone has the right to their own opinions of records and I understand Chalky that you don't like the record, that's fair comment.
I had first hand experience of the 'Soul Snob' scenario on one of the first occasions of getting back to DJing Northern, when a guy came up to me during my set and said '"Is this the original then?", when I said no I couldn't afford the original because it was going for approximately a Grand, he said, "Oh! well I won't dance to it then", How f**king pathetic is that? The floor was full at this time BTW and the record was Margaret Little - Love finds a way'. I couldn't beleive what I was hearing, and said that that was his choice.
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totally agree m8 and there were some big name djs playin it all over the place at the time!!! loved it then love it now, id also play it unashamedly , records like this helped to make the scene what it is today wonder if anyones got the balls to play it at the kings hall!!! cause i guarantee it would still ram the dancefloor as you rightly say, too much snobbery these days i know more than you, ive got dearer records than him etc
it may be a £5 record but ive heard a load of shite being played costing a lot more with bums on seats
Thank you,
'Soul Snobs', why can't they just like the music for what it is, what it was, and what impact it had on the scene at the time? instead of analysing (or should that be 'ANAL'ysing) every track for what label it's on, who produced it, whether it was a black or white artist, how much it's worth, and whether it's an original or a boot.
Who gives a flying f**k, as long as the tune is good, pleases the crowd, and fills a dance floor.
After all, that is what the scene is about isn't it, and what ALL good DJs should be thinking about.
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Just wondered if this stunning record ever gets played on the modern scene?
Or this blinder??
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Just watching 'Bargain hunt' on TV with the very eccentric Tim Wonocot, and what should come on in the background?
'G Davis & R Tyler - Hold on help is on the way'
An unexpected boost to my morning viewing
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Can someone let me know if this is rare and what would one expect to pay for a copy?
Big Frank & The essences - I won't let her see me cry
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I'm in touch with Gary again now after some 30 years, I'm trying to coax him out again as I think he lost interest after he'd sold his records. His wife Lynne has been to a couple of my do's but not Gary as yet.REMEMBER GARY VERY WELL, WITH HIS BIG SOUNDS AND LITTLE BOX
....GOT SOME NICE TUNES VIA HIM, NEW WANDERERS, ADMIRATIONS AND PROFFESSIONALS ETC, TOP FELLA INDEED 
NOT SEEN HIM IN A FEW YEARS THOBRI PINCH
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, and sepia, they do still give away the golden gavel for 3 profits, erm! apparently! 
The Javells - Goodbye Nothin To Say
in Look At Your Box
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Hate arguing and try not to, but I am entitled to my opinion as is everyone like it or not.
As to the original topic question, Yes! I liked and still like the Javells, although I do not, or haven't played it in my sets for many years, but I still think in the right club with the right punters, it would still go down well.
I still don't see though that anyone can say it's wrong to play boots or re-presses, when there are VERY FAMOUS DJs out there playing CDs and MP3s, at least I have stuck to the vinyl and spend most of my leisure time hunting the tracks that I want, and buy them if I find them and if there is originals out there in my price range, I will buy them.
Love and Peace.