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  1. My copy on the stereo side has GSFS 1179 and almost opposite a @

    On the mono side it's GSFM, then N80 scored through 3 times, top middle & bottom, then 1179. again opposite a @

    The run-out on the mono side is about 1.5cm and on the stereo side it's about .75cm (which makes sense as it takes more of the vinyl to record in stereo)

    Things get curiouser and curiouser? on mine the Stereo side says 'GSFM 1179-S', further round the dead wax are various things scratched out, one bit having 'X' at the end and no '@' in sight unless it's one of the scratched out bits. On the mono side it has

    'GSFM- 1179 M' and again other bits scratched out but no 'X', also again no '@' sign? Did they use the '@' sign much in 1974?

    Respect Steve

  2. You must have been rich back in them days because I dont remember anyone giving us a 10 bob note! but suppose you could have done (thanks) I do however recall people were very generous - :wicked:
    heheh! Only kidding, but I do remember every week people trying to cadge money to get home with. Usually spent their transport fare on 'other things' :lol:
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    Edited by steveluigi

    Sorry, it may be a bit selfish of me, but I can't understand anyone slagging down the Casino when it was one of the clubs that paved the way for the scene as it is today and has been for over 30 years. The club was AWESOME! the atmosphere, the people, the music, the dancers, the DJs, the venue, what is there to slag off? maybe I'm out on a limb here, but if it hadn't been for clubs like the Casino, the scene might not be what we know it as today. It and other clubs of that time, were instrumental (no pun intended) in educating and introducing thousands of people to the best music scene in the world ever, FACT!!!

  4. I remember meeting up in Doncaster with like minded "soul music people" when the organised bus never showed up sad.gif gutted we all stood about wondering what to do next :lol: , suddenly this older girl named "Linda" asked if anyone wanted to hitch and being only 16 young years of age and eager to dance I said I would alongside a couple of others (safety in numbers and all that) but then as we started to walk to the main road one by one eveyone started to drop out - I was so scared because by this time there was only 2 of us and I didn't even know the girl plus the fact I had never hitched before - (I will admit I was going to go home but had informed my parents that I was staying at my friends house plus the fact they never knew I went to Wigan and I would have definately been punished had they found out) but Linda was persistant and I was assured that she would look after me and that I would be ok (I was bricking it). Well we set off and managed to get to Birch Services about midnight and she met these 2 lads in the cafe and asked them if they were going to Wigan? yes they said we'll give you a lift in our mini (it had no floor on the passenger side but the engine started), so I thought well they look ok and she knows them so it must be safe - the only problem was we went through one red light after the other and were speeding at times :D - We arrived at Wigan in one piece :g: (Shaken not stirred) and when we got out I asked her the question "why did we go through all the red lights?" her answer to this was simply they had no brakes on the car they had to use the handbrake and sometimes it just wouln't stop the car! aaarrrrrhhhh

    Suffice to say it put me off hitching and the journey home was another story (we cadged enough money to catch the Train Home)

    I can honestly say I have never hitched since.

    I had not seen Linda for about 25 years and had actually spotted her at a northern night about 6 years ago she had not changed a bit - it was lovely meeting her again after all that time - the first words we said to each other was "Do you remember when we hitched it to Wigan. If the 2 guys that gave us a lift that night happen to read this - thanks for getting us there is one piece :wicked: but never again.....

    If Russ White (Train Driver) Stamford reads this can you get back in touch - I have lost your number you know who I am.

    Miss Wasperella x

    YEAH! AND YOU STILL OWE ME 50P THAT I LENT YOU TO GET HOME! :(
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    Outside of The Torch , 1967 ......

    Pictured sitting in the car is owner Chris Burton , and to his right , original DJ Barmy Barry ......

    Do not know who the guy to the extreme right of Chris is / was , but I would not have liked to pee him off ......

    Malc Burton

    wow, WHO'S THE DUDE WITH THE BLONDE HAIR? TOP MOP!! :wicked:
  6. IT WAS A SHITHOLE :wicked: ...........BUT OUR SHITHOLE :lol: ............... I REMEMBER GOIN IN THE LITTLE PUB IN THE SQUAREI THINK, BY THE PUBLIC BOGS AND THE LOCALS BEIN VERY ANTI TORCH!!!!!!!!!!! FIRST RECORD I HEARD IN THERE WAS CHUBBY CHECKER JUST DONT NO....I GOT THAT RUSH TOO>>>STILL GOT IT.........CATS ONLY PLACE TO COME NEAR IT FOR ME!!!! :D
    Nice one Ezzie, Like I say above, nothing has ever matched the rush of atmosphere that greeted you when you walked through the door. AMAZING!!!!!
  7. Why move on when the Casino was one of the clubs that paved the way for the Northern scene, I know there were other clubs like the Wheel and the Torch, and they all have thier avid supporters and memories toboot. When peoply say "those were the days" they really were. Remember the Northern kids were in a way the rebels of music, ignoring the mainstream crap that was played on radio, and travelling miles every weekend to hear something that no 'normal' person would entertain. I know folks still do this, but then it was all new and exiting. I mean, people still follow Christ and he's been dead for over 2000 years but he paved the way for Christianity.

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    Edited by steveluigi

    Me and a coach load of folks were travelling to Wigan, when our 52 seater coach was stopped by the squad. They took us all to some spurious police station in god knows where and kept us all in a room while they tested and searched us all for gear one by one. We had to keep our hands on our heads and were not allowed to go to the toilet. I was dying for a leak, but had to wait for about 4 hours until i was called. I was tested and proved negative. By the time we got on our way and arrived at Wigan, it was 7am and after a lot of arm twisting, we were allowed to go in for the last hour. NOT FUNNY!!!! :wicked:

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    Edited by steveluigi

    All great and helpful comments, but still no definative answer to be able to determine an original Anderson brothers from a boot. I was told that the original plays stereo on the stereo side and mono on the mono side, and the boot plays in mono on both sides although stated as stereo. Like I say mine does play as the stated original copies? Is there anyone who has a guaranteed original copy that could tell me the definate differences. As stated I have had this copy for some 30 years since the Blackpool Mecca days although I cannot remember clearly under what circumstances i bought the record or from who or how much I paid for it as I used to buy so many in those days, money generally no object. Does anyone know what the originals have on the run out dead wax so I can check against my own copy?

    Steve

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    Edited by steveluigi

    Wow! it looks so different, must have been the mind of a youth, but I don't remember the street as it is now to what it was then. I though that the opposite side of the street was wasteland? Saying that it was some 30 years ago. All I remember is that I have never again experienced the rush of atmosphere when I first walked through the doors and I remember that it was 50p (10 bob) to get in. What a place and what amazing memories. Thank you very much.

    Steve

    ps - are you any relation to Chris Burton the owner? If so, it's a great pleasure to talk to the son of a person who changed many lives for the better.

    Respect.

  11. Theres loads up on the albums section m8

    Hi there, here is a picture of me and some good friends from the 70s at 'The Cats Whiskers' in Leeds, This picture was used as the cover for the Cd/album 'Soul survivors 2' That is me on the front left (with the fag in my hand). Hope that this helps.

    Steve

    whiskers_sml.jpg

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    Edited by steveluigi

    Sorry I might have confused things re: the Anderson Bros original.

    The original plays in stereo on the 'stereo' side and in mono on the 'mono'; the boots play the same (mono I think) on both sides, regardless of what the label states, stereo / mono

    yes Iv'e checked it through headphones and the stereo side is in stereo and the mono side in mono. original? Is that the only way of telling the diference, as there is one on EBay at the moment, how could you tell the difference in an auction?

    https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/anderson-brothers-i-...1QQcmdZViewItem

  13. That's great, the Anderson Brothers is an original then as it has both the mono and the stereo versions. The carstairs has sterling scratched on the run out and 'RC 2857' scratched also, which is strange as the matrix number is 'RC 802' on the label? I take it that this is a booty then?

    Thanks, any more info would be appreciated.

    Steve

    P.S. Any ideas as to how much the Anderson brothers is worth these days?

  14. OMG! The Central @ Leeds. I still go harping on about that place. Some of us peeps from ULL (or Hull if your posh) would drop by with regularity prior to heading further west to Wigan. I my humble opinion the Central was one of the best local clubs on the go in the 70's

    Here's to The Central and all who frequented said venue :lol:

    yes, I spent most of my weekends at the Central, and then ended up being the resident DJ there. it was the longest running soul club in the country at the time, being open for some 15 years or so. fantastic atmosphere and quality dance floor. Massive respect to the late Len Cave and his amazing wife, who owned the club and let us cause havok every week, those people were what the scene was all about, friendly, dedicated and full of heart.
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    Hi there fellahs (and Gals)

    I need a bit of help to identify the uniqueness of 2 records, both that I've had since the 70s. The first one is 'The Carstairs - It really hurts me girl'. Like I say, had it years but never known weather it was an original copy or not, can you point me to what I should be looking for? here is an image.

    carstairs.jpg

    The next one is 'The Anderson Brothers - I can see him loving you', again, had years and one or two people have said that they thought it is an original copy.

    anderson.jpg

    I will leave it to the purists on the forum to tell me the truth.

    Thank you

    Steve

  16. Well as much as I hate to muddy the waters :(

    The Gordons Gin Theme was played at a Youth Club in Royton near Oldham that I used to go to when I about 14. One of the lads who DJd there wrote to Gordons prior to the realease that Pete mentioned and got sent an acetate, which I think had the Gordons logo on it. Memory is a bit shaky here but I recall it had a long version with voiceover and the shorter version at the end. It might have even had the short version with the begining passage repeated to make it a bit longer as a third track (but it's possible I'm getting mixed up with Human League's version from the 80s)

    Point is it was played in a Northern Soul venue and, according to a popular definition, by default it's a Northern tune. At least as much as Pat Williams' Police Story anyway.

    I don't mind as I just think of them as great pieces of theme music but I love watching it when people get all bent out of shape because they aren't soul tunes :D

    Yes me too, Thank you for the comments and I totally agree. I mean how the hell can you call 'Hawai five 0' Northern soul? and that used to pack the floors. There is NO true definition of Northern Soul apart from it's always dancable and ususally, but not always soulful. And what about Wayne fontana 'something keeps calling me back' and Paul Anka's 'Can't help loving you'? about as soulful as Ken Dodd, but still massive tunes on the scene.
  17. Let me know when the next one is and I'll try and make it!

    Funnily enough, there was a Paul Anka visit earlier this year which co-incided with the release of the Northern Soul Story series I did for Sony-BMG - Paul Anka was the lead track on the Wigan Casino volume. So, at the time, I saw that Paul Anka was going to be on This Morning or a similar show, so I did send an e-mail to the show to see if they could ask him about his Northern Soul records, which I think would have made a nice chat subject.

    But no cigar. Just an auto e-mail response which is par for the course these days LOL. :no:

    Ian D

    Hi Ian, just wondering, do you think that if they had have asked Paul Anka about his northern Soul records, he would have known what they were talking about? Does he know that some of his recordings were massive on the Northern scene? Many of the American artistes didn't have a clue that their otherwise dead records had been caned in the UK. I have heard many a story of artist coming over here to perform at Northern venues, and having to listen the tracks that they were going to perform before they went on stage, as they had forgotten the words, and were duely suprized that the audience that they were playing to knew the tracks word for word and in many cases, better than they did :lol:

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