Been thinking about this for a good number of years, do record prices on this scene make any sense anymore?

I've seen people take as red certain prices not necessarily knowing what price they were a few years earlier for instance.

I was reading the R & B thread (now closed down), noticed Beeks talking about Ronnie Savoy 'Big hand, little hand', a £15 record for a very long time & reading between the lines he paid a fair bit more than that price.

Remember Alan H used to spin it at The Dome as a forgotten cheapie but great all the same.

My point is are the prices realistic anymore, have they ever been or is it just supply & demand, we're living in very hard times & the prices don't seem to reflect this, i've seen records like Jackie Wilson's 'Because of you' & Dee Dee Sharpe's 'Deep dark sectret' go from five pound records to hundred pound records in the blink of an eye lid but neither are rare.

Discuss if you wish.

Simon

Been thinking about this for a good number of years, do record prices on this scene make any sense anymore?

I've seen people take as red certain prices not necessarily knowing what price they were a few years earlier for instance.

I was reading the R & B thread (now closed down), noticed Beeks talking about Ronnie Savoy 'Big hand, little hand', a £15 record for a very long time & reading between the lines he paid a fair bit more than that price.

Remember Alan H used to spin it at The Dome as a forgotten cheapie but great all the same.

My point is are the prices realistic anymore, have they ever been or is it just supply & demand, we're living in very hard times & the prices don't seem to reflect this, i've seen records like Jackie Wilson's 'Because of you' & Dee Dee Sharpe's 'Deep dark sectret' go from five pound records to hundred pound records in the blink of an eye lid but neither are rare.

Discuss if you wish.

Simon

Hi Si

Swings and roundabouts isn't it mate...i've bought cheaply and sold ridiculously higher in the past but i'm also prepared to pay should I want a record that used to be cheap but demand drove the price up

Ronnie Savoy is much sought after and no longer the cheapie it used to be...I'm not worried telling you what I got it for...it was £60 all in...now believe it or not that's a pretty good price as the last couple i've spotted have gone for a ton+

Remember every record starts off as a cheapie...it's demand and rarity that drives prices up...due to the Popcorn market Savoy is not that easy to come by and i've been looking for it for some time...so it's all relative

Hi Si

Swings and roundabouts isn't it mate...i've bought cheaply and sold ridiculously higher in the past but i'm also prepared to pay should I want a record that used to be cheap but demand drove the price up

Ronnie Savoy is much sought after and no longer the cheapie it used to be...I'm not worried telling you what I got it for...it was £60 all in...now believe it or not that's a pretty good price as the last couple i've spotted have gone for a ton+

Remember every record starts off as a cheapie...it's demand and rarity that drives prices up...due to the Popcorn market Savoy is not that easy to come by and i've been looking for it for some time...so it's all relative

Your right, lots of items that used to be in nearly everyone's sales boxes which could hardly be given away at one time. Over the years tempo has changed and forgotten cheapies get played and create a demand. Revue lable for instance Garland Green "Girl I Love You" "Ain't That Good Enough" plus Jack Montgomery "Baby Baby Take Chance On Me" (just gone for £175) were all back of the box 50p - £1 items at one time.

Ronnie Savoy is much sought after and no longer the cheapie it used to be...I'm not worried telling you what I got it for...it was £60 all in...now believe it or not that's a pretty good price as the last couple i've spotted have gone for a ton+

£60 ain't too bad, i was worried you were gonna tell me it was a ton plus, that would be down to hype imo & not a true realistic value.

I've seen so many of these kinda records go form £10 - £100 for no apparent reason other than the seller has plucked the figure out the air, which is where i sorta started from on this thread.

Hope your well mate & hope to see you up in Manc sometime in the future, we're due another visit.

Simon

£60 ain't too bad, i was worried you were gonna tell me it was a ton plus, that would be down to hype imo & not a true realistic value.

I've seen so many of these kinda records go form £10 - £100 for no apparent reason other than the seller has plucked the figure out the air, which is where i sorta started from on this thread.

Hope your well mate & hope to see you up in Manc sometime in the future, we're due another visit.

Simon

Yeah get your arse up here mate...try and find me on FB too...deleted my old account...i'm under Russ Beeks

It feels like record prices work like house prices do, estate agents only put a price they know other houses in a street already have but they forget that they were the ones to hike up those prices in the first place, they add a bit more and so it goes on...

I agree prices rarely seem to fit the actual worth of a 45, sometimes it's no good looking at popsike either becaue at the end of the day that's just what some people are prepared to pay, not always what a 45 is worth.

Even once rarely played obscurities command the prices of big dancefloor indemanders thesedays

I refuse to pay over the price for any 45 no matter how much I may want it ,I found that patience is most definitly a virtue . There will always be someone out there who has a record you want and knows the true value and is honest enogh to sell you at that price it might just take you a while to find that someone , that said its up to the dealers to sell at the price they seem fit to sell lets face it there is always someone willing to pay there prices there choice it takes two and all that . Anyways there thousands of so called cheapies out there never played and fooking brill.

Kieran

prices are more demand than rarity on a good many records - so my tip is - get other collectors to load you up tapes/cd's with lots of cheap sounds they rate - listen, learn and go shopping - let the money men go after the big niter sounds and then you pass on your sounds to them and watch them go shopping and your collection increase in value

the biggest plus for this is - while others search for records you've got, it leaves the field open for you to get the next batch in

bar a handful of discs this worked for me in the 80's

As always -something's only worth as much as you want to pay for it !

money's tight all over-I'd sooner trade records to get other stuff at the moment -I also enjoy doing that as well

3 Revue records mentioned earlier-all great records that were waiting to have their day! so the price went up.

Dave Thorley's just had a VERY long standing Want of mine- I was beaten to it--but didn't have the spare cash to buy at this moment anyway

It wasn't cheap as such -but I'd gladly pay that price if another comes along and I have the cash in hand.

there's always another day !

Rob