Chalky

and have you seen the buggy now its laden with booze......

Jock's just heard it is last orders at the 19th hole......

Lot of good points in there Paul and a lot of truth. Me I just want to listen to good records whatever the price, preferably something different with some good quality oldies thrown in.

How do you know he promoter hasn't booked he DJ to play unknowns? I've seen DJs bomb, happened myself, cause he promote had asked us to do a particular set yet it wasn't right for the paying customers. That's the fault of he promoter surely. I've also DJ'ed at venues clearly advertised as rare, lesser known, semi known etc etc only to be asked for classics. I suppose that is the fault of he DJ as well? Maybe we should just put a juke box in each venue?

If it is info from a scan then google will pull the Popsike scan up.....well it does when I do a search. But again with the info, it can be got elsewhere for free so still don't see the point in paying? Must be the Yorkshire Blood.

Prices have risen steadily on this since the find dried up. Case of supply and demand rather than rarity dictating the price.

Popsike is probably a waste of time in the majority of cases due to the age of many of the auction prices and the disparity between the lowest and highest price item. Far better using something like this site. Totally free and up to date. I haven't paid and won't be paying for popsike.

Does no one remember the above?

By positive I mean a valid contribution, but I tink you know that. Steve's was one opinion, I can't understand why you would conclude that the venue might not be for you from Steve's comment? Surely your decision would be based upon the fact you didn't know the records and if unknowns are what you want then it is the venue for you. If it was oldies you wanted then the venue wouldn't be for you? Yes the records are known to some, not so to others, they may or may not be cutting edge but the promotion is a damn sight different to the vast majority of venues, that is plain to see from the records listed. On that basis alone I would choose that venue personally over a venue with classic oldies. As Tim Smithers said it was just a small selection of what was played on the night. Tim said he played several cover ups and unknowns. But at he end of the day a venue needs support regardless of the policy or the format. There is a large catchment area on the south coast and there should be room and support for a venue like this without having to reply on travellers.

I would think most of those who attend oldies nights where they listen to what they have listened to for most of heir social life aren't bothered so much about the music like those who do give an opinion. It is more a social affair for them with music they like as a back drop. Some wish to progress and hear music they haven't heard before be that 60's, 70's or modern.

Why is there a bias? It is because others choose not to get involved and that isn't the fault of those who are getting involved. I would think most who have participated love the oldies just as much as newer stuff but choose not to listen to somethg they have heard for 25,30 or 40 years every weekend. Can we drop the "big boys" rubbish, it is getting tiresome. If you don't want to get involved then fine, just leave it at that.

There you go again Win, who are the justified and ancient? If you put something up for scrutiny, seeking opinions you cannot expect everything to be positive, people have different views and opinions. If the playlist had been in the playlist forum I doubt it would have generated much response but it wasn't it was put up here for scrutiny and opinion, there is a difference. Leaving the playlist (a good playlist btw and one I'd be happy to hear at a venue) aside I can only applaud Rod and Sallie for what they are doing and for what they believe in. Unfortunately I don't have the time with work and home to travel so far these days but saying that they should really be getting better support from the South.

The difference being I wasn't saying bury the topic or telling anyone not to have debate or discussion, I also mentioned the off topic. The debate back then was going nowhere, there was no debate. Since then there has been some decent posts and opinions given by members from across the scene. It does now seem to be going off topic again and people dragging the topic down by saying what they think of the topic rather than contribute, bit like your post. So rather than stir things up and drag it down why not contribute something positive? Failing that as I said leave the topic to those that do wish to debate and contribute. Other off topic posts have been removed.

Then go and read something else Kev or start a topic you feel is more worthy. No one is forcing you to read this and plenty of members have enjoyed the debate even if it has all been said before. Same for anyone else, it is a discussion forum so either join in or keep out.

Practice what you preach, I didn't tell you to stop moaning, read it again, I asked "why moan about it then". There is a difference and with your knowledge of the English language should be able to understand that. And I haven't mentioned anywhere to the bet of my knowlegde that you said sh*te. And I haven't jumped on any high horse. If you wish to carry this on then do so via PM.

I'd forgotten all about that story Andy but now you recap it, it does stir the grey matter. At least it has answered Nev's question although I d like to know when he remembers it being covered as it as been uncovered for years as far as I know. Been in contact with Luckey for a long time Keith, back from when I was researching Higland. He did ask me if I could move ten copies of "I was born to love you" and that he had sold a handful to someone in France. Think he was wanting too much for them at the time.

Don't talk rubbish. No one has said you can't have an opinion nor has anyone told you to shut up. You were slagging something off you don't like and by the looks of it have no intention of listening to, all I asked was why moan about it. You should try and quantify your comments rather than simply slag somethng off.

Dave Flynn started to catalogue monarch presses over on the RSF. Dunno how far he's got with it.

Exactly, they call em counterfeits. Plenty of bootleggers/counterfeiters used "all rights reserved" and other official looking abbreviations on the label.

I have an magazine at home about the Grapevine Label, (done in the 80's I think) and sure it has scans of quite a few Grapevine RCA acetates. I'll have to dig the magazine out.

If you listen to a couple of the videos on YouTube of George Kerr you can probably see why Mr Lucky was covered as George Kerr but I guess the only definitive answer is the one Butch has. I have a playlist from Butch where he played this upstairs at the last Stafford allnighter.

Was probably covered up as George Kerr Nev, been sometime and can't remember for sure. Butch been playing it since mid 80's. Luckey Davis has a copy or two of this.

Me too, didn't know about it either. Wish they'd get these on at the weekend.

I fully agree with you and I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet. Ballads in the right place at the right time have their place but like you say not a run of them at 4am.

Then why moan about it? And I I'm sure the likes of Roger could satisfy a night with uptempo Modern Soul.