Chalky
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did we?
my memory is shot to bits
will have a look
anything known about label's founders/owners?
will check on rsf but if anyone does know any more...
Mikey - how about something to take away the pain stain?
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If we didn't although I'm sure we did, we have now
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Tim Brown had it at £100 on a list earlier this year.
I had one in my box at £75 for months. I also put it on lots of lists.
Eventually sold it on ebay for about £15.
Awful 45 imo, however it did attract quite a lot of interest but nothing solid. I think I am right in saying it is quite rare but the quality is not there.
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Believe it or not
I've seen it sold for well over £100 over the last 12 months 
Explosive Dynamiks (old Rob Marriott cover up) slightly better but both poor records IMO.
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I believe Richard S got the his acetate from John Anderson, who speeded it up
when cutting it.
He also did this with something else but I can't remember what it was. Same time tho' end of Wigan, Clifton Hall era
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F*** knows which tape it is on in the house. Know for definate it's in the lorry but got to play through the tapes to find it
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Andy Dyson Records List No. 12 November 04
To order e-mail Andy @ Dysonsoul@aol.com
Telephone +44 01302 744927
UK Postage (recorded 1st class) 1-2 £1.50, 3-5 £1.75 then 25p each disc.
Europe Postage (recorded 1st class) 1-2 £1.50, 3-5 £1.75 then 25p each disc.
Postal Address
Andy Dyson Records
PO Box 1486
Conisbrough
Doncaster
South Yorkshire
DN12 2WZ
United Kingdom
WOL Writing on label
XOL Cross on label
SOL Sticker on label
WDL Water damaged label
TOL Tear on label
LD Label damage
WDJ White Demonstration copy
DJ Demonstration copy
1 The Shadows My love Is Gone Golden Sound Ex+ £200
2 Soul Bros. Inc Love Sweet Love SBI M- £50
3 Dynells Let Me Prove That I Love You Blueberry Ex wol £200
4 Shirley Matthews Big Town Boy Tamarac Vg+ £85
5 The Electrifying Cashmeres What Does It Take SS7 M- £125
6 Moses Dillard Pretty As A Picture Mark V Vg+ £300
7 Gordon Keith Look Ahead Calumet M- £100
8 Danny White Keep My Woman Home Atlas WDJ Vg £60
9 The Precisions Such Misery Drew M- £75
Nice thick vinyl
10 The Casinos If I Told You Del-Val M- £25
11 Rosetta Johnson That Hurts Atlantic WDJ Ex £50
12 Joe Walker This Is My Last Goodbye Bold M- £125
13 The Mighty Golden Wonders What We Need Is Love CYE Ex £125
14 The Revealers They Had A Party At The Watergate Paramount M- £125
15 Tony Galla In Love Swan DJ VG £300
Rare Yellow label & Blue label! Demo copy too. Stafford monster!!
16 Jesse Boone I Got To love You Soul-Po-Tion M- £40
17 Willie Welch's Band What's Ever Fair Blackbird Ex £75
18 Roy Brown Baby It's Love Gert M- £150
19 Candi Bars You're The One Candi-Stix M- £150
20 Carol Woods & Executives Heart Breaker Perfecto 7 M- £350
21 Freddie Briggs Someone To Care For Me Congress WDJ Vg £30
22 Little Bernie & Cavaliers Poor Town Ascot WDJ M- £30
23 Sharon Scott I'd Like To Know RCA WDJ Ex+ £80
24 CL Blast What Can I Do United M- £25
25 Radiants My Sunshine Girl Twinight M- £50
26 Freedom Sunshine Freedom M- £75
27 The Magictones Happy Days Westbound M- £15
28 Timmy Willis Give Me A Little Sign Epic M £50
Hard Issue
29 Lee Sain Tell My Baby Glow Star Ex+ £40
30 Billy Watson Get Myself Together Barracuda Ex £50
31 The Pirates Mind Over Matter Melody M- wol £40
32 The Cravens Searchin' Saber M- £25
33 The Adlibs Lovely Ladies Interphon WDJ M- £25
34 Porgy & The Monarchs Love Chain Verve M- £30
35 Lindel Hill Ain't Got Time Bright Star M- £25
36 Bobby Adams You Got Next To Me Baby Pilma M- £30
37 Tyrone Ashley I Want My Baby Back Phil~LA of Soul Ex+ £35
38 Della Rae Happy Day Groove WDJ M £25
39 Bud Harper Let Me Love You Peacock DJ Ex £30
40 Don Gardner Ain't Gonna Let You Get Me Down Tru-Glo-Town M- £20
41 Timmy & Persionetts There Comes A Time Olympia WDJ M- £50
42 The Masqueraders I Ain't Gonna Stop/Average Guy AGP Ex £25
43 Ricardo King On A Hot Summer Day In The Big City Joker M- £50
44 Royal Premiers I Can Make It If I Try MBS M £25
45 The Agents You Were Meant For Me P&L Ex £25
46 Ronnie Savoy Loving You Wingate M £20
47 Lorraine Ellison I Got My Baby Back Warner Bros Ex £25
48 The Cheques Deeper Heatwave M £35
49 The Emeralds Promises King WDJ Ex+ £50
50 The Companions Be Yourself General American M- xol £50
51 Little Carl Carlton Don't You Need A Boy Like Me Lando M- £40
52 Otis Leavill A Reason To be Lonely Blue Rock Ex+ £25
53 The Blues Busters Behold/Tell Me Why Capitol M- £25
54 Chuck Jackson Beg Me Quality M- £30
55 Claudell McKell Experience Is The Best Teacher Branding Iron M- £30
56 Jay J Jones I Don't Know What To Do V-Tone M- £30
57 George Tindley Don't You Hear Them Laughing Rowax M- £25
58 Gerald Trotter One More Hurt Mo Do Vg+ £125
59 The Soulful Twins I Can't Let You Go Sable Ex+ £100
60 Barbara McNeir You're Gonna Love My Baby Motown Ex £100
61 Jerry Fuller I Get Carried Away Challenge M- £150
Nice black issue!"
62 The Delicates Stop Shovin' Me Around Challenge M- £70
63 The Millionaires It Ain't No Achievement Speciality M £50
64 The Sweet Things I'm In A World Of Trouble Date WDJ M- £60
65 Jerry Ganey Just A Fool Verve Ex+ £175
Issue!!
66 The Lashons Little Sister Beware Vended M £150
67 The C-Quents Easy For You Baby Quest Ex £150
68 The Strides I Can't Get Along M-S Vg £200
Issue.
69 Kenny Hamber Anything You Want Arctic Ex £400
70 Jan Foreman Your Last Chance Meadowbrook Ex £200
71 Lynn Johnson Wicked Woman My Time M- £300
72 Fredrick Hymes III Time Ain't Gonna Do Me No Favor Fab Vegas M- £300
73 Duff Thurmond Now That You Left Me New Voice M- £70
Double sider!
74 Continental Showstoppers Not Too Young Seventy 7 Ex+ £60
75 Celestrials Checkerboard Lover/I Feel It Coming On Don El M- £60
76 Donald Height Crazy Little Girl Old Town WDJ M- £100
77 Popcorn & Mohawks Real Cool Lovin Motown Vg £100
78 Harold Melvin & Bluenotes What Can A Man Do Arctic WDJ Ex+ £60
Coming Soon!!! Brand new Andy Dyson Records Website. Watch this space!
Forthcoming events!!
Soultown promotions Charity Soul Nite!
In aid of Baby Abbey Tinkley (suffering from SMA trpe 1)
LOWTON CIVIC HALL
Friday 26th November 7pm till late
Country's top spinners all donating their services free
Andy Dyson, Carl Willingham, Mick H, Rob Thomas, Mark Bicknall & Kev Murphy
Loads of prizes kindly donated by Richard Searling, Kev Roberts & Tim Brown
All monies raised donated!!! Please attend for a great night and a worhty cause.
Further info: 07792 164683
Lifeline and Soultown Soul Clubs
New Years Eve All-nighter
@ Sheridan's, Huddersfield Road, Ravensthorpe, Dewsbury (M62 Jnc 25 - M1 Jnc
40)
Representing the Lifeline Soul Club will be Andy Dyson, Mick H, Tim Brown,
Arthur Fenn & Chalky
and for Soultown Soul Club we have Carl Willingham, Rob Thomas, Mark
Bicknell, Paul Sadot & Andy McCabe.
A feast of quality Soul is guaranteed.
The night will start at 10pm and finish the next morning sometime ;-) There
will be 200 tickets only for this night and they will be priced £15.
Feedback about the night has been excellent and fully expect tickets to go
quickly.
Can those who want tickets get them as soon as possible. No tickets will be
saved on the door..they must be purchased before December the 18th. We've
all worked hard all year promoting both nights (Lifeline and Soultown
niters) and don't want to work on New Years Eve...we just want to collect
the tickets on the door and party with the rest of you! :-)
Give one of us a call, send us your money and we will send you
the tickets through the post.
Tickets are now available from....
Andy Dyson @ Dysonsoul@aol.com or telephone 01302 744927
Mick H @ Trentsoul@aol.com or telephone 07968 030464
Andy McCabe on 07792164683
Chalky @ chalky@soultown.eclipse.co.uk or telephone 07743 863523
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Bloody hell, now you're depressing me...!link
That time though is 50 years from the date of recording before it passes into the public domain in this country, 90 years for most of the rest of the world. That ruling is currently or will soon be challenged in the courts by the majors.
There was an article in the Record Collector a few months ago, will try and scan and post so you can read.
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In regards to the "Little Ann" cover up, i have an old tape recording of Richard Searlings Radio Hallam show (circa 81/82) with the aforementioned track on, Richards version was definately a faster recording (perhaps a couple of Pitch's?)
Does anyone know if this was how it was cut on his acetate or did Richard actually pitch it faster?
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I've recordings here of the acetate that Gilly got off Dave Hamilton. On the flip there is a take of the instrumental. The instrumental starts off and after 30 seconds or so it stops and the band strike up again but this time it is quicker with some backing from Little Ann towards the end "When he's not around, What should I do, should I put him down" etc The vocal on the other side is the slower one that Ady put out on cd.
Dave Hamilton did make a comment to Gilly and Tats on the Searling cut when they played it off a tape saying that it was too fast and originally recorded slower (sleeve notes of Dave Hamilton Detroit Dancers).
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I think I'm right in saying that track has been booted three times: once on vinyl, with the Phrenetics Band Michigan Move on the back, and twice on CD (The Northern Soul of LA and The Stafford Story).
Booted on vinyl yes but can you say for certain that licensing wasn't obtained for the two cd releases?
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Be interesting to hear if the guys who say bootlegging is part of the scene and thats just the way it is. If they had made a record and somebody had bootlegged it whether they'd still say ah well thats the way it goes.
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It's not just this scene...it's every music, film and art scene. You can get virtually anything you want if you know where to look, music, films, software....how many sat at their PC's are using 100% licenced software.
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Chalky is probably right re artists not seeing much profit from 500 discs (though if they sold for £20 each that is £10k or about $18000 US and if they were on, say, 25% of that it would not be an insubstantial sum to some of them). More than that, I think it's just a question of principle.
I don't know the ins and outs of the industry but I doubt very much that any artist would be on more than 5%. More than likely a couple % for an unknown with extra for writing and producing if they were involved there.
I would like to see the industry breakdown for sales of 500 discs bringing in $18.000. Pressing discs, distribution, promotion, admin etc and see just what is left, not a lot I bet
Pretty sure I read that some of the Motown stars were on a percent or two and then Motown deducted money for touring costs, choreography etc leaving them with f*** all virtually.
I do agree with the principal part and maybe recognition would come into it for some, legal recognition that is and not recognition at the hands of bootleggers.
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Just been reading the discussion about the moral & legal implications of 'pressings' with great interest. It seems to me that so long as no deception involved this is just a bit of fun. It's got more to do with owning a fake Rolex than is has with faking penicillin.
But what about covering up a record? Take for example Richard Searling's pretending that Little Ann was really Rose Valentine for 20 years. If he had declared 'What Should I Do?' as being by Little Ann wouldn't a demand for the real record have been created that would have encouraged the record company to release it? This would have given the singer a real stab at some money in her life-time.
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Did Searling know it wa by Little Ann and a Dave Hamilton Production as studio discs don't always give this info. It wasn't until Gilly and Tats were at Dave Hamiltons that it was discovered who it actually was.
But what record company is going to take the chance on releasing a record that either failed the first time round or didn't even make release to a very limited market. They aren't really interested in selling a few hundred copies of any given disc......they want a hit record and most certainly aren't interested in vinyl.
I would dare bet that if a record company was to release say 500 copies of any given record, once cost for pressing and admin taken out there would be little or nothing left for the artist.
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Even though true.... gonna have to watch the footy though in a bit.... with a bottle or two
Then I might have to sort my box out into label colour and alphabetical artist/group order
.... must make it easier to find stuff though 
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Had a bottle already
Coming out of the speakers right now... Geater Davis - My Love Is So Strong For You -
Boots do cheapen the scene no doubt. I worry that the real pioneers of the scene, the likes of Butch etc, get that pissed off with it they stop digging deep for new 45s.
I think we have to protect the finders and pioneers of the world because without them things will come to a standstill with regards to the upfront scene. I love the idea of things still being covered-up at the Lifeline by the likes of Butch and Andy Dyson. To hear something amazing every couple of months is so much more special to me than hearing it every weekend 3 or 4 times a night.
Doubt the likes of Butch and Andy D will ever stop collecting but there will come a time when he says enough is enough and quit DJing. It can be very frustrating for them to see others using their knowledge for own gain, be it going after sounds they find or certain records being booted or even legally re-issued :angry:
The scene was built on hearing newies week in week out and I can't understand why that has changed and the majority want safe records and are happy for others to play boots and re-issues when there are collectors out there with the real deal who never get the chance to DJ...strange world of northern soul indeed. :angry:
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Roosevelt Matthews
in All About the SOUL
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Have seen Roosevelt Matthews for £500 plus...as high as £750. I'm sure Derek Pearson had one for sale a while back, try the sales section on here to see if you can find it.
John Wesley Smityh dunno for sure, rare piece, £1000+
Allan Sisters..is that a legit test press (studio acetate) or a cut/emidisc?