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I don't harangue anyone,we are all grown men and women and have a mind of our own,which means that I can express myself and voice my opinion on this forum as i like and will defend the right of you and anyone else to do exactly the same, freedom of speech that's all it is. As for attending Northern Soul venues is concerned,i attend them frequently and all over the Country,do you?. A well respected Northern Soul DJ is a friend and he has the Blue Original Tamala Lewis in his box,i always ask him to play it and he always does. I know plenty of self respecting Northern Soul DJ's who will play the Orange label Tamala Lewis,they play the music for the Dancers,because they want to hear and dance to it. There is something that you have forgotten in your summary,the dancers PAY to gain entry to the venues, so why can't they hear their favourite tracks?. If there is an original to be played,great,if not play the next best thing on a record,it's about the music .

Here is the evidence for Marton www.discogs.com Tamala Lewis Tracklist : A. You Won't Say Nothing Written by E.Harris,C.Haskins,G.Clinton B. If You Can Stand Me Notes : Produced by Parlor Productions. Blue label release Also released with an Orange label So,both records produced and released by Parlor Productions,no mention of any other company or dealer and no mention of bootleg either. Why is it no person looking at these postings could tell me that information?

The point is this (which i have raised regarding unissued great dancers),Lets say for arguments sake that 100 Blue label 1st press records were produced and today they are all in the hands of collectors, most i guess will not be played at Northern Soul Venues,some are. If Northern Soul DJ's refuse to play the Orange 2nd press record you have a situation were the dancers are missing out because the track is barely played at all and that is unacceptable. The music is the finest Northern Soul and it should be played to a willing dancing crowd.

Not quite correct,the issue at heart is that the orange label is NOT a boot,it is genuine,so therefore if it is from good stock it should be played freely with originals at Northern Soul venues without question,like I have said before it does not matter about the year. The orange label is original,the definition of original is "belonging to the origin or the beginning of something", this is clearly the case,so i am in order to state that it is original 2nd press and possibly the original pressing equipment.If it is legitimate it is original,because it came from the origin,namely Marton.

Every production run of a record is a pressing,the original record is original 1st press,the LEGAL re-issue/release of the orange label is an original 2nd press,i am not saying the orange label is the original at all,the blue is the original,no doubt about that and i love both. There is a definitive difference when the owners of the label are involved in a re-release, bootleg's can be made by anyone or any company,it's not crazy talk at all. The Northern Soul scene can be complex at times and this is simply one part of it.

I will certainly try Richard,might take a bit of time though,work etc:,BFN.

A bootleg is a copy made by anyone or any company The orange label is RCA,re-released in 1979 in conjunction with Marton (the label owners).There is nothing bootleg about the re-release,Marton were involved,so in my eyes that makes it genuine and a second press,it does not matter about the year,the fact that Marton were involved makes a massive difference. So once again you CANNOT call it a bootleg. Right,over to you,prove me wrong then.

My understanding of the Orange label record is that it is an Original Marton 2nd press issue confirmed by a reputable Northern Soul DJ,it is not a boot as suggested,i own an Orange one and I am more than happy with it,they too are becoming rarer and their value is starting to gradually rise over time. I had an argument with a DJ who would not play it at a venue,he said it was a boot,i said to him that it wasn't it was a Marton 2nd press original,the DJ that confirmed it's status was at the venue and gave his input,the record still wasn't played,utter nonsense,the dancers missed out yet again!!!. There are many unissued great dancer records that are never played at venues because of the Original v Boot snobbery.This happens because there are only so many Acetetates and boots have to be made to provide copies to dance to otherwise they are never played. Examples of this are: Gladys Knight and the pips --- If You Ever Get Your Hands On Love, Eddie Holman --- Where I'm Not Wanted,both excellent dancers. Obviously there is no doubt about the Original Blue record and i reckon that anyone who has one could ask around £2000 for it in good condition.

Tamala Lewis --- You Won't Say Nothing is a Masterpiece on Marton,Northern Soul at it's very best. It is without doubt a great 100% up-tempo dancer at many venues around the UK. It is a top quality Oldie and deserves the classic recognition that it gets. In my opinion i don't think another Artist could better Tamala's version. I do own a copy and always will.

Love everything about this video,that's all i need to say.

Thanks Tony,i will look after it,should bring the dancers flooding onto the floor including me. Many thanks mate, KTF Ron

Thanks mate,yes a one off carver,could not believe my luck,fantastic.

Now the proud owner of an unissued and unplayed 45 record,cannot believe my luck,an absolute gem,so rare!!!. KTF Ron

Great Dave,look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks Sam KTF Ron

Hi Don, You have confirmed my thoughts that it was never released,but visited the information that you have supplied and it is very interesting. This gives me hope that i will eventually find an original or a copy,there won't be many but you have inspired me,many thanks mate. KTF, Ron.

Hi All, Trying to get hold of a copy of Kim Weston -- You Can Do It I have done some research on this track and my understanding is that it was never released,although it is on the Kim Weston Motown Anthology CD,which means that there must be an original recording. If this is the case,maybe just maybe there might be a few copies. I think Berry Gordy would have had the original master,but, at the moment i am gathering more information on the subject. Hope someone can help,as this is a gem. KTF, Ron.

Good point boba,i see were you are coming from and completely understand.Not all buyers are honest and do try to claim their money back against the seller,what a world we live in eh!!!

The USA and UK postal services are generally very good,so there is no point in sending express with tracking unless the BUYER wants it, the seller had a duty to provide postage costs in the listing,it is no good hitting the buyer with large postage costs once the listing has finished.Say the item only sold for $10 and then hit for $31 postage,crazy scenario. The way that the seller has handled this is disgusting,it is very dodgy to do this to a buyer,this is not normal practice and my suspicions are aroused,if they are genuine then ask the buyer what does he or she want,you cannot force someone to accept the postage costs after the listing has closed. I know i am repeating myself,THE SELLER MUST STATE THE POSTAGE COSTS IN THE LISTING,NOT AFTERWARDS!!!

Totally agree,i have bought and sold loads of stuff and take my word,the seller has to be up front all the way with postage costs and what they hate is negative feedback,if you are honest with the buyer they will come back to you in the future,common sense really. I have 100% postive feedback by the way. Got to go now,good luck!!!.

Seller is not right,postage should have been set in the listing,not after it has finished,that is misleading and fraud,the listing is legally binding.

The postage rules are set by ebay not Paypal Paypal is just a safe financial tool used to pay for the item,it is a safe convenience. This is a scam/con The world is full of t***s like your seller,don't be bullied into anything,YOU DICTATE TO THEM !!!.