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Lovely looking label! This must be pretty rare…

White or Red copy, any condition considered.

Thanks.

J

Cix Bits Band - I Can't Turn Myself Around - Haze M- £150.   

Heinsight - Sugarman - Churchill M- £70

Les Elegantes - I’ve Been Lonely Too Long - Afro K (obscure raw female dancer, Alan H spin) EX £60 SOLD

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Warren Ray & Infernal Blues Machine - It's The Feeling I Get - Kent 6ts 43rd Anniversary M £80

Mel Williams?! 😲

1 hour ago, Kenb said:

Cultural Appropriation -Yes.

There was no Northern Soul before about 1970. R & B and soul yes.

No Americans i know ever went consistently to hear music at a venue(s) from 2am to 8am as a group of people. Neither did they mobilise in terms of travelling to hear that music from one town to another.

The music of "Black America" was never put together by DJ's in a way that Northern Soul did 'in the first instance'.

Northern Soul was as much a movement as a 'scene'. If someone has taken it and re-purposed it for their own grandizement, then...yes it's Cultural Appropriation.

Ok, here’s a question: is a northern soul film cultural appropriation? Is a northern soul play cultural appropriation? A northern soul fashion shoot? The production and selling of soul tat found at weekenders? Or is all of that ok if it has involvement from people deemed ‘worthy’? At what point do we decide anything related to northern soul outside of the act of humans travelling to a venue to listen to records played from record decks through speakers from original vinyl is deemed cultural appropriation if northern soul related? It does feel like the whole thing seems to hinge on if said people get the ‘pass’ or not. And who decides that? Who’s in charge? Genuinely curious.

8 hours ago, Tlscapital said:

Terms and words choices ; culture and economy are interlinked all through history. I'm afraid that those records were bought and not robbed per se and that white people victimizing some more black folks is... Huh ! Just not true.

Are you really going to put guilt on every purchased records ? As for 'appropriation' what about borrowed or influenced from rather than appropriated ? A dance move and / or taking an "over easy" stance for a far away social cause ?

Is all that morally 'punishable' ? I think not. Pathetic maybe. Even if that's your way of seeing it using those ideological 'filters' to me these terms are just too insidious and unhappy for one to live with love for those records if ever.

For one to have some political or social awareness of the world we live in is one thing. To make any subculture an ideological battle ground is never a good thing. Imposed ideology follows and it's despicable. We're in for the music.

Not a political struggle. What I've found at one time on top of the sounds that were my treat was an 'underground' night-life with people dedicated to that music with no dress code, age or origin discrimination nor socio-economic barriers.

As opposed to other "marginal" scenes I encountered back then full off aggro for nothing and political side suspicion that I grew tired from. And racism if you want to go there (eg. whites robbing blacks) such is not the white man's privilege. ...

Preferring to agree I guess as like you I love some of what still remain of that 'underground' (a 'discreet' not plotting cult of devotees to sounding materials outside of the authorities control scope) scene nowadays.

That have taken too much overground float for too long again and that some seems to do everything they can to keep it that way. This is where the issue lies for me. That is consumerism at the service of the rotten egos.

Just to be clear - i wasn’t the one who brought the term ‘cultural appropriation’ into this discussion. The concept of that as applied to new people on the northern soul is laughable, whether they have ‘served their time’ / on the telly / whatever. That’s what i wanted to point out, hence my deliberately provocative point about ‘robbing’. I’m well aware this scene likes to pat itself on the back for ‘saving’ all of this music, and perhaps it is quite right to - but please don’t be don’t be sitting around moaning constantly and then seriously try to complain you are having your ‘culture appropriated’ because someone you don’t like is on the telly with it. Ffs.

12 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Robbing? The majority of the recordings would have been lost forever if it wasn’t for that bunch of white people. Those recordings were not wanted by the people they recorded them for.

Isn’t there a touch of the saviour complex there though? Agree it’s great they’ve been saved by someone but to get annoyed by the Levanna thing to the extent that people are so publicly just seems futile and daft to me. And to say its cultural appropriation on the Northern soul scene feels a bit ludicrous. This stuff isn’t ours its borrowed from another culture, isn’t it? Btw, when i say robbing i’m using hyperbole, and meaning the worst excesses of the scene.  As i say  - most if it has been clearly done with love for the music and people in mind. But it’s  just one opinion. We’ve all got em as evidenced daily on here.

Also if you’re involved or have been involved in any sort of ‘scene related extra curricular activity’ - soul films, soul plays, soul fashion videos / promos, soul floats at national events, you really ought to forfeit the right to complain as it feels like pure hypocrisy. If you’re out there chucking it about you best be clean imho. Just one opinion….

On 15/01/2024 at 18:46, Kenb said:

You are right of course. But Cultural appropriation is everywhere, and NS is the newsest incarnation of it. Happy to hear you keep calling it out.

There’s a pretty strong argument that Northern soul itself is cultural appropriation of the highest order. A bunch of white people robbing 45s from poor black folk, building a scene around them, copying the dancing and using black power iconography etc - the list goes on. I mean, i love it and i’m fully invested and would argue it’s all out of love, but we can’t get the hump about other people culturally appropriating cultural appropriation can we….?

Brilliant record

Absolutely love the Mello Souls, pure dynamite crazy excitement northern… but only as it has been mentioned on this thread - if i HAD to pick (and i know i don’t or ever will), but i’d go for Lester T out of the two. That’s a level that barely any others surpass or match. IMHO of course!

ps, both would be nice.

Steve at Rolling Records in West Wickham (Kent) -  think Mick smith knows him well - had a mate who sometimes worked behind the counter who was a former studio musician (if i’ve got that right) at Oak… really interesting label.

I’m 43 and been on here for nearly 20 years i think, maybe more. It’s all Insta etc these days. Apparently!

1 hour ago, Benji said:

Was sorting through a box of old CDs and came across one that is probably the one you mentioned. "fundraiser" CD Nancy and her then partner Simone did for the first Rimini Soul weekender back in 2002. As you say Midniters, Antellects, Chick Carlton and also stuff like Little John on Gogate, Otis Lee or Sebastian Williams on Sound of Soul. Great compilation!

That’s the one! Still after the Chick Carlton after all these years… fantastic mix.

VG+ upward please, no hiss or noise.

Many thanks,

J

Doris Troy ‘I’ll Do Anything’, Brenda Holloway ‘Crying Time’, Barbara McNair ‘Baby A Go Go’, Brown Bombers ‘Wait For Me’, Del Larks, all fab intros.

13 hours ago, sostenuto said:

And where was Nancy Yahoo djing 20 years ago?  Not a name I remember ever djing in Britain where it matters.

Think the point he was making was just that there were other people with it and playing it?? Calm down pal. 

1.) Warren Ray & The Infernal Blues Machine "It's The Feeling I Get" c/w Clyde Moultrie "Without Your Sweet Lovin'"

6ts Rhythm & Soul 43rd Anniversary single (100 Club).

Unplayed, mint condition.

£125

£100

2.) The Classic Example "Right On" c/w The Shirelles "She's Gonna Make It'"

6ts Rhythm & Soul 42nd Anniversary single (100 Club).

Unplayed, mint condition.

Fabulous previously unissued crossover soul one one side, and magical unissued sweet soul on the other.

£180

£140

Thanks for looking.

Had a great comp she did with this, Thee Midniters, Chick Carlton etc. Really good stuff.

1.) Warren Ray & The Infernal Blues Machine "It's The Feeling I Get" c/w Clyde Moultrie "Without Your Sweet Lovin'"

6ts Rhythm & Soul 43rd Anniversary single (100 Club).

Unplayed, mint condition.

£125

2.) Joe Hinton "I'm Gonna Stay With Sugar" c/w Miss Louistine "Extra-Extra'"

6ts Rhythm & Soul 44th Anniversary single (100 Club).

Unplayed, mint condition.

Fabulous previously unissued rare soul.

£125

3.) The Classic Example "Right On" c/w The Shirelles "She's Gonna Make It'"

6ts Rhythm & Soul 42nd Anniversary single (100 Club).

Unplayed, mint condition.

Fabulous previously unissued crossover soul one one side, and magical unissued sweet soul on the other.

£180

Thanks for looking.

Such a lovely guy, was always a real pleasure to see him. Will be sadly missed. RIP. xx

This bloke has been trying this stuff on for years, no one ever touches these comedy 45s he tries to sell - to my knowledge. As Benji said one chancer trying it on doesn’t mean the scene is f*cked. Plenty of other things that could screw it other than this guy’s antics. Fully agree it isn’t pleasant to think he would try and take someone for that much money though.

Charles Friday 😂😂😂😂

On 18/09/2023 at 15:10, Okehdownsouth said:

That's a bit defeatest and negative. There are two things in my life that I have a passion for collecting, records and cars. I have a decent collection of records that I am quiet happy with, but I will always aspire to own some that I probably never will. I would also love to own a whole load of classic Ferraris and Porsches that I know I could never aford but that doesn't make me hate the people who do own them or stop aspiring to own them.

The trick is to buy what is out of fashion. I have been collecting records for more than 50 years so quite a lot of my best British Demos were junk shop finds when I was a kid, but I have also bought some big ticket records for peanuts because they were not "fashionable" at the time, one I recall was Milton Wright I Belong to You, which is in my mind a bloody awful piece of drivel for which I paid £40 and then sold it 5 years later for just uner £1000. I Then used that profit to buy some of the records that had previously been out of my price bracket. Next to go are a UK issue of Ray Polard The Drifter and a UK Demo of Frankie & Johnny, both of which cost me about 10p each. So in your mind I may be a rick old bloke BUT I nobody ever gave me anything, I earnd every penny and paid the tax on the bloody lot! 

 

Actually i feel much better about it all now, think I needed that pep talk. Hearing about people's 10p 70's finds always puts things into perspective. The collecting classic cars analogy really hit home with me too. Not sure what i was worrying about really. Thanks guys!  👍