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Jan Bradley Interview - Bob Abrahamian 2008

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it is soul/funk as is james brown. did someone list it as "funky '70s crossover"?

I know about louis chachere, he was part of the derbys revue in KC that had marva whitney, the sinceres, the del montes [later the visitors], etc.

 

anyways it's clearly a funk record. it came out on two KC labels before jewel (forte and MJC).

the louis chachere record is still a funk record.

 

is it a jazz-funk record? probably with the hammond and horn arrangement. but it's still a funk record.

people are so greedy to the point of being stupid. someone deciding that they're going to ignore all their buyers for an extra 50 pounds, like the same people are then going to PM again. idiot.

this one is much better than the first one. is that the cabinet of dr. caligari? bizarre.

I found that to be one of the most unlistenable LP's I've ever had the misfortune to attempt to listen to.  Nearly as bad as Dark Side Of The Moon.

 

i respect your opinion, it's not for everybody. but at least it's original and not some rock guy doing fake doowop tracks. terrible is better than mediocre and bad.

will try to later today

i agree with godzilla. james brown was funk and soul. so is the louis chachere clip posted. paul, you're complaining that the seller hasn't correctly described a record within the current temporary micro-genres carved by a scene (which they have no part of) at a specific time? 

 

i'm just glad when i get an unknown r&b / soul record and it's not a country record.

I can't believe I'm defending him, but Zappa had a real background in doo wop / R&B - later on in his career he did it more tongue-in-cheek, but the appreciation was always there

 

not sure about his fans though

 

maybe he really appreciated it but all that matters is the end product and the reception.

 

i see i wrote "mast" instead of "mask", that was a typo before anyone makes fun of me for that

for the record, ebay grading has significantly improved for a lot of terrible sellers since the advent of the DSRs (detailed seller ratings, the star system). they have been the only thing keeping sellers' status on ebay. ebay is changing it again so that they rate sellers based on returns and refunds, which i think will loosen the grading once again.

 

i don't think anything is new. there always have been conservative and non-conservative graders. you have to look at the listings for clues (e.g. compare the label condition to the vinyl condition and see whether it looks like a "VG+" record). my only observation about US vs. UK graders is that UK graders tend to be either extremely conservative or extremely liberal with their grades while there is a wider range of standards with US sellers.

 

i agree about many sellers using poor packaging but i still can't believe that the standard of mailing in the UK is a thin envelope mailer with a single totally flexible thin pad inside. I've gotten plenty of cracked records from the UK with that packaging. in the last few years i have experienced more US sellers skimping on packaging to save a few cents -- for example, using real 45 mailers but no filler pads, which makes a record extremely crackable in shipping.

it's hilarious to me reading threads like this where the actual record is not specified, i'm like "i have no idea which one you're talking about", but somehow everyone else does so i'm in another world on this message board. like if someone starts a thread "price for gene chandler?" this is not an insult to the original poster so please don't read it as such, i'm just saying i'm lost here.

i can't stand zappa, doing fake versions of other genres, proving how musicially "smart" he is, for an audience that would never listen to the real thing. beefheart is listenable when doing original sounds like on trout mast replica.

 

that said, this track is decent.

big hit in chicago, the styrene design on the right is by far the more common version actually. i think there's another vinyl label variation but might be confused.

i have this

what is the big deal with the writing credits? others above already pointed out that one credits Al Scott and the other credits Mr. Soul and they're the same person. Neither is wrong. Moreover, plenty of legitimate releases even on major labels have pseudonyms for writing credits, and often have the pseudonym on a first release and then the real name on the second release. Talking about these specific writing credits is not evidence for one being first or the other and is also further confusing the matter.

https://legacy.suntimes.com/obituaries/chicagosuntimes/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=171145754

 

 

Robb, did you actually listen to the record? It does have a male group on it but they are mixed way in the background (they are brought up a little more later) and has girls mixed much louder than the guys. I don't have the gene martin to compare, do you know if it's the same girls backing track?

 

Hi. I hope everyone is having a wonderful Memorial day weekend. For my radio show today I did a flashback show to my Memorial day show in 2007 (5-27-2007). I uploaded the show as originally broadcast in 2007; I played a lot of nice tracks and I hope you enjoy it. You can listen to the show here:

 

 

Listen!

 

 

 

You can listen to other shows and interviews with Chicago groups by going to my main page www.sittinginthepark.com Also, if someone you know wants to subscribe to this email list, they can add themselves at the following URL:

 

https://eepurl.com/n7Qr5

 

Playlist follows and I hope you enjoy the show.

 

Desires - Back to back - Blue Light

Third Soul Trio - That’s a natural fact - Cabell

Isley Brothers - You better come home - Wand

Objectives - Love went away - Jewel

Dee Edwards - Oh what a party - D-Town

Carl Carlton - Nothing no sweeter - Golden World

Lorenzo Carpenter and the Black Heritage - My Black Sister - Vincent

“Baby Dave” Greenlee - We need love - Steelcity

Candy and the Kisses - Together - Scepter

Linda Burns - The reason why - Ty-Tex

Lost Weekend - Bridge of love - USA

Deltones Ltd - You don’t believe I love you - Plut

Julius Thomas - I gotta change my ways - Wild

Opus IV - I could tell - Cotillion

Leon Haywood - Long as there’s you (I got love) - 20th Century

Rhythm Machine - Whatcha gonna do - Rodan

Al Jay - Reflections - Bumpshop

Defaulters - Gentle man - PDJS

Final Chapter - Now I know - New World

Impressions - My woman’s love - ABC

Temptations - Don’t send me away - Gordy

Dee Dee Joseph and David - Peace of mind - Free Soul

Johnny Daniel and the Soul Malibus - I’m gonna make you mine - SMR

 

thanks,

Bob

Hi Keith, are you sure? I can't find a youtube clip, but "lonely nights" has a female group on it. That doesn't make sense that it would be any falcons except a lead.

thanks for sharing this

Go look for their other 45, way rarer and even better, was just in their hometown down in sunny FL last weekend but no luck (of course)

 

they have 4 45s. The most amusing an instrumental on the "Phart" label, catalog number 0069.

plus the girl at the bottom is flat chested and has a butter face

I bet Andy Rix could figure out the unknown group